Pak suffers heavy casualties as govt gives troops free hand

[alimobin memon]

Moral boosting for what.indian Establishment ,s not under any threat like Nawaz Shariff f
PS: We have unlimited amount of human resource .dieing for country is a noble profession it will only height our confidence more as for damages RA&W paid Ttp is already there too maintained balance they siege you cities every day butcher your soilders daily

TTP Backbone is so long dead they are completely demotivated surrendering in numbers and there is already news that 80% ttp has left ttp. furthermore Threat is not just Nawaz Shariff in case of war whole Pakistan will be a threat. Human resources ? I am pretty sure we do too.

Actually your government is trying to take out benefit from unrest in Pakistan just like you did and many other countries during death of Benazir. I am not saying you guys don't fight face to face or so I am saying this is universal and natural when enemy is already stabbed you do try to end the rest what is left of it. But in case of Pakistan our Jawaans are their on border lets assume if jawaans cant hold u their then there are many layers of defense. Than if you still accomplish we will assure that our resistance come in your nightmares. Lets not talk about Nuclear missiles right now cause its a damned weapon we both should hope no one uses it.

Most importantly you have admitted in sense of sarcasm or not that RAW is a coward agency asking others to do their dirty work by paying TTP.

 

[danger007]

Fellow Indians (visionaries only and not the jack asses of India),

I can understand your pain, the agony you're going through yet again even if you know that you're in driving seat today.

Problem with Indian brains is that they weigh things with their loud brusque and believe in counting and recounting only. They want others to see things with their eyes and hear with their ears.

Yes, everything is fair in love and war and we have seen their love for KASHMIR, BANGLADESH, BURMA, SRI LANKA, IRAN and ISRAEL (whom India betrayed by setting their own principles aside). Beside all the cunningness of Indian mindset and so called progressive approach, it is appreciable that they have stuck to their plan and given their political elite to set their agenda against PAKISTAN successfully.

Indian intellectual elite recently started claiming that PAKISTAN is no more a challenge to India on any front. We can only smile on such an innocent approach. PAKISTAN will remain a nightmare for India whatever their retards say.

Last but not the least, "We may be weak today, but fear is killing you inside".

Thank you for visiting DEFENCE.PK, this also proves we're on your minds.

PAKISTAN ZINDA ABAD

http://www.lse.ac.uk/asiaResearchCentre/events/individual/2014/140527-Pakistan.aspx

Pakistan: A weak state!

 

[Tshering22]

This is a welcome in some way, considering the laid back and appeasement followed by the robbers and thieves for the last 10 years, holding the position of Government of India.

At least now there is some confidence restored in the people that the government is actually thinking about public security.

But on a realistic point, it is sad as well.

Why?

Because neither General Raheel (Sharif is only a ceremonial head as we all know) nor Narendra Modi ji are actually getting affected. Who is losing?

The families of BSF and FC who are posted on the borders for meagre government salaries. You think that either side's families would approve of such actions? NO.

I don't know what are the jurnails of Pakistan thinking? Sitting in their plush bunglows and driving luxury cars, these selfish people are getting their own young men killed by filling them with false fervour. The ceasefire violation is not just a diplomatic affront but is also very lowly action.

It was to establish a meaningful peace between the two countries and potential future trade relations.

Where are we going with this?

You fire, we retaliate.

Think from the perspective of the families of the soldiers or even the soldiers.

Whether it is the Pakistani FC soldier or the BSF trooper here, neither soldiers would want to shoot the other out of each others' will. Because each of them know the amount of resources, efforts, toil and blood that goes into making a trooper and the concern for each one's families.

Think about how the wives, mothers and sisters, fathers, grandparents etc would feel when their dear family man returns in a coffin; that too during the peace time. If it was a KIA in a full blown war, they will be sad but also proud of their sons. But during peace time just because of the whim of few generals sitting in palatial estates?

You know, these people are playing with lives here, and as they say, life is very cheap in the Indian subcontinent countries.

The true objective might be to secure one's interests and countries, but what is achieved by these occasional violations? We don't have vermin and losers anymore in our government and any unprovoked violation of ceasefire will get an appropriate response.

But what does it achieve? Securing borders? psychological message? territorial gain? votes?

What?

Nothing. Only dead brave men for the want of a few egos.

To all Pakistanis here, please try to see from a realist's perspective.

This is in reality, not a good news. I personally don't appreciate this needless cross-border firing as I too am from a military family. I am sure that many of you here are from military families and understand what I mean here.

The invitation to swearing-in was a glorious opportunity and Sharif & Modi were hopeful of creating history. Nothing would have been better than to have continued building a meaningful understanding on a little bit of honest ceremonial exchange of goodwill.

I know Pakistanis don't like Sharif as their PM due to his corruption.

But as a businessman, he would have been much smarter than your generals in dealing with the new Indian government. Him being a businessman and our new PM being from a business-oriented state, could have changed the way we both react to each other to a more pragmatic approach.

But your military doesn't want that. Because it wants to stay in power. Our armed forces are in 100% control, or rather over-control of our ministers. But yours is not the case. There has to be an even balance of autonomy and control in the military.

 

[NKVD]

TTP Backbone is so long dead they are completely demotivated surrendering in numbers and there is already news that 80% ttp has left ttp. furthermore Threat is not just Nawaz Shariff in case of war whole Pakistan will be a threat. Human resources ? I am pretty sure we do too.

Actually your government is trying to take out benefit from unrest in Pakistan just like you did and many other countries during death of Benazir. I am not saying you guys don't fight face to face or so I am saying this is universal and natural when enemy is already stabbed you do try to end the rest what is left of it. But in case of Pakistan our Jawaans are their on border lets assume if jawaans cant hold u their then there are many layers of defense. Than if you still accomplish we will assure that our resistance come in your nightmares. Lets not talk about Nuclear missiles right now cause its a damned weapon we both should hope no one uses it.

Most importantly you have admitted in sense of sarcasm or not that RAW is a coward agency asking others to do their dirty work by paying TTP.

RA&W is doing same thing like What ISI, CIA, Mossad it's how intelligence agencies operate.As for Finishing Ttp is a big dream beware of the next attack may be this time they besiege any big statergic assets of pakistan.As for unrest is only benefiting our govt we are hoping for another Military take over as it will Make USA to put sanctions on Pakistan hence our diplomatic victory

 

[Zarvan]

Moral boosting for what.indian Establishment ,s not under any threat like Nawaz Shariff f
PS: We have unlimited amount of human resource .dieing for country is a noble profession it will only height our confidence more as for damages RA&W paid Ttp is already there too maintained balance they siege you cities every day butcher your soilders daily

You are lying since 2002 you are going down in 2002 without any major war you lost 2000 soldiers

 

[JonAsad]

What kind of comment is that?

du har en darlig hode-

 

[NKVD]

You are lying since 2002 you are going down in 2002 without any major war you lost 2000 soldiers

just see causalities you suffered by RA&W Paid TTP is Almost Thrice

 

[Faisal Mushtaq]

I want to add here another snippet from past (for information and knowledge only), which is "OPERATION DWARKA & PNS GHAZI". PAKISTAN NAVY surely SURPRISED if not shocked by successfully executing the operation. It was by all means PAKISTAN NAVY's first surgical attack in the region and the whole world not only noticed it but also noted it. Conclusions & aftermath has whole lot of opposite claims from both sides, but, that incident proved Pakistan's ability to surprise in a short span of time.

Despite they're good in long term planning, I haven't seen such an ability in Indian Forces and this is the point point where PAKISTAN gets strategical edge. We can ruin a 10 or 20 years plan in hours (should be interpreted as seconds) and Zarb-e-Azab is the most recent answer.

My Indian Fellows who claim that KASHMIR (IHK & AJAK) belongs to India and GILGIT-BALTISTAN belongs to CHINA should understand the fact that PAKISTAN is already in a WIN WIN position as we don't have war situation with CHINA and on the other hand INDIA has suffered in Sino-Indian border area and can lose some of its part in the hands of CHINA (sooner or later). Till then another LOC is drawn in the area with CHINA while having one in KASHMIR. Therefore, neither AJAK is getting out of hands nor GILGIT-BALTISTAN is a threat.

Your 1 on 1 comments are appreciated for all my previous posts. Please, do not respond and engage 1 on 1 unless you have logical answers only and not emotional.

Thank you

 

[HariPrasad]

You ENDIANS are pathetic, killing bangladeshis, Kashmiris, Pakistanis and supplying weapons and aid to terrorists to destabilize Pakistan. And it is you pathetic yindians who are living in illusions! Plz my dear undians come out of Bollywood world and plz grow up.

hi Dear,

let us remain as we are. We becomes similar to you, you will face much more problem.

 

[NKVD]

I want to add here another snippet from past (for information and knowledge only), which is "OPERATION DWARKA & PNS GHAZI". PAKISTAN NAVY surely SURPRISED if not shocked by successfully executing the operation. It was by all means PAKISTAN NAVY's first surgical attack in the region and the whole world not only noticed it but also noted it. Conclusions & aftermath has whole lot of opposite claims from both sides, but, that incident proved Pakistan's ability to surprise in a short span of time.

Despite they're good in long term planning, I haven't seen such an ability in Indian Forces and this is the point point where PAKISTAN gets strategical edge. We can ruin a 10 or 20 years plan in hours (should be interpreted as seconds) and Zarb-e-Azab is the most recent answer.

My Indian Fellows who claim that KASHMIR (IHK & AJAK) belongs to India and GILGIT-BALTISTAN belongs to CHINA should understand the fact that PAKISTAN is already in a WIN WIN position as we don't have war situation with CHINA and on the other hand INDIA has suffered in Sino-Indian border area and can lose some of its part in the hands of CHINA (sooner or later). Till then another LOC is drawn in the area with CHINA while having one in KASHMIR. Therefore, neither AJAK is getting out of hands nor GILGIT-BALTISTAN is a threat.

Your 1 on 1 comments are appreciated for all my previous posts. Please, do not respond and engage 1 on 1 unless you have logical answers only and not emotional.

Thank you

Pakistan Navy!!!Is Any Such Thing Really Exist

 

[bhangi bava]

Pakistan Navy!!!Is Any Such Thing Really Exist

he is new to the forum soon he will learn harsh realities

 

[Faisal Mushtaq]

Pakistan Navy!!!Is Any Such Thing Really Exist

Pakistan Navy!!!Is Any Such Thing Really Exist

Answer lies in your question...
From no existence if PN can surprise India, what will happen if you see it exists?

Please consult Mr. Dhawan for this, I am sure he does have some information for you.
Meanwhile do visit these attached links:

FYI Please.

PAKISTAN ZINDA ABAD

 

[Screambowl]

Why hasn't that happened already? India has 600 million people living on less than $2 a day maybe your world lobby should focus on that.

soon those 1.91 million will be out of low income group.

Indian space program
Infrastructure
investment in Solar Power, Dams
Information technology
Biotechnology
Defence Indutry

companies invest in India

we are not the best and also not the top most but India stands somewhere, where is Pakistan? No one wants to Invest in Pakistan.

 

[Assange]

I want to add here another snippet from past (for information and knowledge only), which is "OPERATION DWARKA & PNS GHAZI". PAKISTAN NAVY surely SURPRISED if not shocked by successfully executing the operation. It was by all means PAKISTAN NAVY's first surgical attack in the region and the whole world not only noticed it but also noted it. Conclusions & aftermath has whole lot of opposite claims from both sides, but, that incident proved Pakistan's ability to surprise in a short span of time.

Despite they're good in long term planning, I haven't seen such an ability in Indian Forces and this is the point point where PAKISTAN gets strategical edge. We can ruin a 10 or 20 years plan in hours (should be interpreted as seconds) and Zarb-e-Azab is the most recent answer.

My Indian Fellows who claim that KASHMIR (IHK & AJAK) belongs to India and GILGIT-BALTISTAN belongs to CHINA should understand the fact that PAKISTAN is already in a WIN WIN position as we don't have war situation with CHINA and on the other hand INDIA has suffered in Sino-Indian border area and can lose some of its part in the hands of CHINA (sooner or later). Till then another LOC is drawn in the area with CHINA while having one in KASHMIR. Therefore, neither AJAK is getting out of hands nor GILGIT-BALTISTAN is a threat.

Your 1 on 1 comments are appreciated for all my previous posts. Please, do not respond and engage 1 on 1 unless you have logical answers only and not emotional.

Thank you

You are speaking about something which happened in 1965 i guess (correct me if I am wrong)....Man that happened nearly 50 years from now...Do you think Indians are still a sitting duck in Gulf of Kutch??? Do you know why your Pakistani government has given access to your ports to Chinese????

Wake up boy...Indian Navy has nearly half the aircrafts that your air force has now....Stop living in history and update yourlself....

 

[Faisal Mushtaq]

You are speaking about something which happened in 1965 i guess (correct me if I am wrong)....Man that happened nearly 50 years from now...Do you think Indians are still a sitting duck in Gulf of Kutch??? Do you know why your Pakistani government has given access to your ports to Chinese????

Wake up boy...Indian Navy has nearly half the aircrafts that your air force has now....Stop living in history and update yourself....

SAWAL GANDUM JAWAB CHANA...
probably you didn't visit the links... ignorance is always not a bliss KIDO.
though looks impossible but try to GROW UP, use NIDO FORTIFIED... mera bacha.
(sorry if "KIDO", "GROW UP and "NIDO FORTIFIED" offended you, intentions are to help you come out of the syndrome)
Thank you for reading.

PAKISTAN ZINDA ABAD

PS [Sensing that all replies to my posts are purely based on sentiments only and no logical facts are being provided to disapprove my point, I reserve the right not to counter, even consider such post replies. Still, logical debate is always welcomed.]