Pak race for tactical nukes adds new poison to the mix

[Secur]

It is not in the realm of fiction. There was an attack by the Bader in the 80s in Germany that nearly breached the defenses of where tactical nukes were being held.

Your response to various attacks on military installations in the recent past has been less than stellar.

Actually it is , only the most paranoid or retarded person would think that a country's most precious equipment are carried on buses , trucks , carts and bullocks when underground tunnels and TELs are there to transport them to any other location if any need be ...

Nukes are kept underground ... Do you even know the location of even one of them ?

 

[trident2010]

PA Strategic Command fires Nasr tactical nuke on IA's Armoured Columns, warns them that the nuclear threshold has been reached and the next strike will be strategic one.

And then within few minutes Islamabad, Karachi, Rawalpindi. Lahore and many more roasting in nuclear fire delivered by Prithvis and Agnis and tells Pakistan that the Nuclear threshold is indeed reached.

Live long and prosper !!

 

[SamranAli]

if Pak build weapons these are dangerous and if india does its service to world. What a hypocrisy.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Lahore is liable to fall in a blitzkrieg type of attack, especially in a pincer. You would nuke India when 20 million Pakistanis are under the Indian gun - directly? Not to mention what will come later in response?

This is a very big hole that Pakistan has consistently bluffed it out. The fact is Lahore is vulnerable. Our recent efforts at brigade level mobilization bordering on division level have reinforced that belief amongst you as well.

Actually Lahore is a lot less vulnerable than you might think. Sure it has a close proximity with the Indian border, but the defences and natural barriers create a huge impediment for the IA. Battles that will be fought in Punjab are going to be a lot more static compared to fluid battles that will be fought in the Thar Desert.

For a Blitzkrieg Style Attack; you need to be more fast, agile and mechanized than your opponent. That is clearly not the case, PA proved this when assets from Kharian were mobilized and were present in Lahore in less than 16 hours during the Azm E Nau exercises. Mobility and fast mobilization is something PA can pride itself upon. PA's defence units are well dug in and have their work cut out due to a narrow choice of axis of advancement. Not to mention; the canals, vegetation and the topography serve as a natural impediment for mechanized and armoured forces.

Depends on what your nuclear command and control doctrine entails (I do not have the details). But I do know that a tactical nuke, once deployed, is de-centralized to brigade level. A very risky proposition that the Americans and Soviets faced on many occasions.

Indeed. This is why PA is changing its command and control and is centralizing the entire system. For obvious reasons i cannot shelve into much details but rest assured the decision will be made by the Central Command of the Strategic Forces after evaluating the situation on the ground.

If we advance, and capture and hold, or breach, tactical nukes do nothing extra for you in addition to your strategic assets.

If anything, they weaken your stance and embolden your advancing enemy.

Not to mention make the entire area and very very dangerous place to be in.

Its a small tactical nuke, not a megaton bomb. The entire purpose behind using the tactical nuke is to make the IA aware that the next strike is going to be strategic if the IA continues its advance. PA does not need to target that offensive force, it can target the reinforcements. The entire purpose behind the strike is to send a message.

And then within few minutes Islamabad, Karachi, Rawalpindi. Lahore and many more roasting in nuclear fire delivered by Prithvis and Agnis and tells Pakistan that the Nuclear threshold is indeed reached.

Live long and prosper !!

Prithvis and Agnis are huge and they take time to assemble. This is something you cannot hide under the rug considering how heavily IA's and PA's strategic weapons are monitored. As soon as the word gets out that IA is assembling her strategic nukes, expect PA to give out the same order too. As soon as IA fires her nukes, PA fires her nukes.

Result: Complete annihilation of South Asia

Thus, lets all pray to God that this day never comes.

 

[Secur]

And then within few minutes Islamabad, Karachi, Rawalpindi. Lahore and many more roasting in nuclear fire delivered by Prithvis and Agnis and tells Pakistan that the Nuclear threshold is indeed reached.

Live long and prosper !!

And the same otherwise , fanboy ... Interesting that the Indians are ready to risk their entire population for a few armoured columns ...

** Makes the vulcan salute too !

if Pak build weapons these are dangerous and if india does its service to world. What a hypocrisy.

Pakistan ? NATO still possesses Tactical Nukes and I do not see even one such article about it being dangerous to the peace and security of the world ... Enjoy , mate ... As the joker says " Why so serious ? " ...

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Its a small tactical nuke, not a megaton bomb. The entire purpose behind using the tactical nuke is to make the IA aware that the next strike is going to be strategic if the IA continues its advance. PA does not need to target that offensive force, it can target the reinforcements. The entire purpose behind the strike is to send a message.

Won't this make Pakistan the first nation to nuke itself and also the how will local Pakistan populace perceive this?

 

[trident2010]

And the same otherwise , fanboy ... Interesting that the Indians are ready to risk their entire population for a few armoured columns ...

** Makes the vulcan salute too !

Seems to me here senior members behaving like a fanboys. You can imagine if India risk its entire population from the second strike from Pakistan then what will happen to Pakistan itself. Barren land for say at least 500 years?

 

[Secur]

Seems to me here senior members behaving like a fanboys. You can imagine if India risk its entire population from the second strike from Pakistan then what will happen to Pakistan itself. Barren land for say at least 500 years?

Really ? Are you now confusing tactical nukes for strategic ones ? ... Second strike will only happen if India continues the adventure and in the meantime , risks billion of its citizens for a few armoured columns because Pakistan's strike wont be on Indian population but on the invading army ...

Do you have any delusions that India will survive afterwards ?

 

[notorious_eagle]

Really ? Are you now confusing tactical nukes for strategic ones ? ... Second strike will only happen if India continues the adventure and in the meantime , risks billion of its citizens for a few armoured columns because Pakistan's strike wont be on Indian population but on the invading army ...

Do you have any delusions that India will survive afterwards ?

Its quite amazing that some Indians believe that India will come out unscathed in a nuclear war. Maybe they are forgetting but Pakistan has nukes that number in the triple digits now.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Its quite amazing that some Indians believe that India will come out unscathed in a nuclear war. Maybe they are forgetting but Pakistan has nukes that number in the triple digits now.

Not as amazing as Pakistanis complacency with tactical nukes option as a panacea. With no confidence in their conventional forces.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Its quite amazing that some Indians believe that India will come out unscathed in a nuclear war. Maybe they are forgetting but Pakistan has nukes that number in the triple digits now.

May be you are forgetting that India also has Nukes...for every nuke that lands in India..there will be a nuke landing in Pakistan... now imagine.. by the time Pakistan is wiped off ..there will be a huge landmass in India still left unscratched...It works both ways buddy...it works both ways.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Its quite amazing that some Indians believe that India will come out unscathed in a nuclear war. Maybe they are forgetting but Pakistan has nukes that number in the triple digits now.

yaar size matter .................

 

[Rajput_Pakistani]

It will be "Moral defeat" along with military defeat for Indians, if they ever decide to use nuclear weapon against civilians after their aggression is thoroughly checked and their "mighty strike corps" are gone..

Pakistan has never desired to use nuclear weapon on civilians and always maintained its strategic nuclear weapon as a deterrent. We are a responsible nation and Indian civilians are not our enemies. Also we are worried for our large number of Muslim brothers in India also.

International law give us the right to defend our motherland against foreign invasion. So use of TNW on aggressive IA will be justified.

 

[SamranAli]

And the same otherwise , fanboy ... Interesting that the Indians are ready to risk their entire population for a few armoured columns ...

** Makes the vulcan salute too !



Pakistan ? NATO still possesses Tactical Nukes and I do not see even one such article about it being dangerous to the peace and security of the world ... Enjoy , mate ... As the joker says " Why so serious ? " ...

That was my point everybody is here to cry Pak did that, Pak would do that Pak is doing that. Cant the just get tired repeating old blah blah.

 

[Mitro]

Tactical nucs are very good strategy for PA ,the country who abundant tactitcal nuc where very far superior in conventional army so they don"t need this strategy but PA cannot match us in conventional warfare so its a good decision abd clearly warns the agressor
That nuclear tressold will easily reach
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If they use T nucs they will make sure that india is not in a position to retaliate.