Pak probably most dangerous country for world: Ex-CIA official

[Great Sachin]

baseless allegations

 

[jamahir]

there is irony, but because the US helped create a situation which led to the bad security situation in Pakistan.

sure... and it cannot be denied that at various points, pakistan establishment unwisely allowed that.

 

[Ocelot]

Too much intake of fast food has gone to his head probably...

The despicable moron should rather worry about the frequent school/university shootings in Murica.

 

[Styx]

sure... and it cannot be denied that at various points, pakistan establishment unwisely allowed that.

post partition they went with the US, we were enamoured by the bolsheviks

 

[jamahir]

post partition they went with the US, we were enamoured by the bolsheviks

not entirely true...

Rawalpindi conspiracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

rajiv gandhi saw pakistan as buffer against ussr

these two things are among many.

 

[Styx]

not entirely true...

Rawalpindi conspiracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

rajiv gandhi saw pakistan as buffer against ussr

these two things are among many.

the Rajiv thing is understandable, why go slave from one system to another ?

rawalpindi is unsurprising, of course the commies wanted to spread their tentacles everywhere and as far as they could.

I'll give you thin much though, commie ideology has worked well for Islamic countries, it's like a sedative that kept them from going full taliban and actually did some good, much better than sharia any day.

our NAM, meanwhile has morphed into a AWE, "ally with everyone" .. a billion people will always hold their own against the powers that be.

 

[jamahir]

I'll give you thin much though, commie ideology has worked well for Islamic countries, it's like a sedative that kept them from going full taliban and actually did some good, much better than sharia any day.

can it not simply be that the progressives in those muslim-majority countries you refer to simply see modern socialism/communism as modernization of true islami path??

i say it is, i have seen a statement of muammar gaddafi say a similar thing, the iraqi/syrian baathists say a similar thing and i am sure muslim socialists from former somalia to former afghanistan to present pakistan say it too.

our NAM, meanwhile has morphed into a AWE, "ally with everyone" .. a billion people will always hold their own against the powers that be.

1. "ally with everyone" is really sitting on the fence, waiting to see which way the wind blows... it helps the "national interests first" selfish lobby but does not get the country any respect in the world.

2. "ally with everyone" until now in case of india has turned out in practice to ally with the western bloc, whether in the korea war, whether in the iraq invasion of 2003, whether in the events of 2011... but the action taken by russia in syria should be a educational event on what real leadership is.

 

[Styx]

can it not simply be that the progressives in those muslim-majority countries you refer to simply see modern socialism/communism as modernization of true islami path??

i say it is, i have seen a statement of muammar gaddafi say a similar thing, the iraqi/syrian baathists say a similar thing and i am sure muslim socialists from former somalia to former afghanistan to present pakistan say it too.

no, ancient religion has no place in how human enclaves, countries, as we know them now, should be governed.

you really want to stone people to death, chop their heads and hands off for criminal activity ? throw gays off a building ? wtf

please make up your mind, ape or progressive ?

don't waste your time trying to romanticize 7th century arabian "laws" to me, we live in 2015 modern "al hind" the political entity, our India, even with all it's flaws, it is our motherland, both mine and yours.

look here, you can see it from space too:

1. "ally with everyone" is really sitting on the fence, waiting to see which way the wind blows... it helps the "national interests first" selfish lobby but does not get the country any respect in the world.

2. "ally with everyone" until now in case of india has turned out in practice to ally with the western bloc, whether in the korea war, whether in the iraq invasion of 2003, whether in the events of 2011... but the action taken by russia in syria should be a educational event on what real leadership is.

yup, sitting on a fence, make a nice comfortable fire and watch the world slug it out.

Israel/Iran Israel/Palestine US/Russia Saudi/Iran Argentina/UK are none of our business, India are officially friendly with all, why do you have a problem with that ?

@jamahir

agree with you about the Russian intervention in Syria, but I've busted your Korean war lies before, we were never going into Iraq 2003, and your beloved Libya... Russia made mistakes in the UN too, besides, the Indian vote was always inconsequential.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

ok lets count who took more lives of innocent people

USA or Pakistan

 

[Indika]

the irony of a cia officer saying such words !!

his president invaded two progressive countries since 2011 and is trying destabilize another two ( cuba and venezuela ) using cia.

It takes one to understand another, got it .
When their ex or current partner in crime gives their opinion I would agree with that. Wouldn't you?

 

[jamahir]

no, ancient religion has no place in how human enclaves, countries, as we know them now, should be governed.

i have said in one of my earliest posts from last year that i wish for a post-religion post-money communist humanity...

you really want to stone people to death, chop their heads and hands off for criminal activity ? throw gays off a building ? wtf

neither i want ancient jewish laws nor do i want modern saudi laws nor be seeing through ku klux klan glasses.

don't waste your time trying to romanticize 7th century arabian "laws" to me, we live in 2015 modern "al hind" the political entity, our India, even with all it's flaws, it is our motherland, both mine and yours.

look here, you can see it from space too:

is that the eastern part?? do i see bangladesh too??

what i want is this...

world jamahiriya, and progressively without religious laws tying up people's minds until all old religions are considered abolished, like i said in the first line of this post... jamahiriya political arrangement plus modernized socialist social structure is the way to the idealized true communist state of humanity.

yup, sitting on a fence, make a nice comfortable fire and watch the world slug it out.

Israel/Iran Israel/Palestine US/Russia Saudi/Iran Argentina/UK are none of our business, India are officially friendly with all, why do you have a problem with that ?

one must be seen as a principled, trustworthy, influential and leader society... isn't that a simple humane demand??

agree with you about the Russian intervention in Syria

but I've busted your Korean war lies before

as far as i remember, you used "medical unit" by way of explaining away presence of indian military there... the indian member, doppelganger, is a doctor training within a army college i think and he said once that they receive proper military training.

if you have actually said something else, do say it again here.

we were never going into Iraq 2003

the article from wsws clearly said that indian army top brass were waiting for the american government to send details of how those 17,000 soldiers from india would operate within the "coalition of the willing"

they did not go because of civilian protests... fair??

and your beloved Libya.

for one thing, google for s.m. krishna ( foreign minister then ) attending the "friends of libya" and "friends of syria" conferences that were arranged by nato.

Russia made mistakes in the UN too,

examples??

besides, the Indian vote was always inconsequential.

well, even the "no" by russia and china ( and germany and france in 2003 ) did not stop nato/usa-uk actions, but saying "i abstain" is quite the same as "i agree" and i don't blame only the indian uno representative in this... pakistan and bangladesh governments too didn't take the right stand.

It takes one to understand another, got it .

umm, sorry didn't understand.

When their ex or current partner in crime gives their opinion I would agree with that. Wouldn't you?

who??

 

[@nline]

If Pakistan (according to Indian newspaper Hindistan Times) probably most dangerous country for world. Then the question is that why their "Coward" neighbour country that called themselves as "Secular India" is still safe by Pakistan

 

[Jaanbaz]

CIA/USA or Americans has no moral high ground. USA is a country which funds terrorism around the world, it is allied with suppressive countries such as Bahrain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia and yet it preaches about democracy.

CIA has been involved in promoting terrorism in more then a dozen countries. We all pray that USA falls down so that we can live in a world of peace and not being afraid that some country sitting thousands of miles would suddenly make up false accusations and invade in the name of freedom.

 

[terry5]

Thank God were a dangerous country otherwise we would have been destroyed & living as slaves again .
The Indians planned to destroy us from the beginning.
The Russians had plans to conquer us & the Americans have all tried & failed .
Now they all know we'll strike back if the shit really hits the fan .

God Bless the Pakistani Army .

 

[jamahir]

CIA/USA or Americans has no moral high ground. USA is a country which funds terrorism around the world, it is allied with suppressive countries such as Bahrain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia and yet it preaches about democracy.

CIA has been involved in promoting terrorism in more then a dozen countries. We all pray that USA falls down so that we can live in a world of peace and not being afraid that some country sitting thousands of miles would suddenly make up false accusations and invade in the name of freedom.

i agree with your post generally but wish to make a point about the underlined words... there are many people in usa who want a politically and economically progressive society, and that includes the citizens' movement "occupy"... these progressive people should be supported from outside so that they can take over the control of usa.