Mav3rick
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It was Gen.musharaf who controlled the army (read whole country and govt ) so don't tell me that a powerless puppet PM went to America by his own to agree a with drawl of troops.. and your army followed his your PM rather than your general. if nawaz was powerless to stop the army from starting a war what makes you think that he could stop the war?
I will tell you what changed, while starting your general was confident of his plan but in execution he failed and got his *** kicked by Indian army.. international pressure was also building up and his all whether friends also didn't move a finger. so musharaf got no option other than withdrawal from remaining areas.
And therein you lost any credibility, if you ever had any! NS, for information, had over 2/3rd majority in the Parliament and he commanded authority over all of Pakistan including the Military. That's why Musharraf was leapfrogged and made the Army Chief by NS because he could do what ever he wanted to do!
Another reality check, while we are at it, a few thousand fighters were raping your military left, right and centre and there was hardly anything you could do except spread tales of bravado, albeit all based on lies and imaginations. Imaginations such as to depict Indian soldiers, riddled with bullets but still, running after Pakistani tanks with anti Tank mines and Pakistani tanks trying to run away! If only your nation had some sense where Pakistan is concerned.
So what did you do after 30,000 soldiers + special units + artillery + Air Force could not achieve the military objective? You threaten the world with a full scale war and eventual exchange of Nuclear weapons. You kick up a storm worldwide just to make sure that Pakistan's friends also force Pakistan to back down because you could not achieve anything militarily!
As I said earlier, we know you are gutless cowards as otherwise you would not have backed down in 2001/2 against a country 1/7th in population, 1/3rd in military power etc., even today you can not take back point 5353. All you really have going for you is the support in international community, a community that we cannot avoid listening to....otherwise thing would have been very different and you all know it.
Whats with all you indians???It takes people to imagine a great victories in the war.In the real world all imagination falls flat and now you come as guest on the the pakistani forum and here also you dont give pakistanis to imagine in peace and you bombard them with facts and figures.If cant be an ideal enemy to them atleast be an ideal guest.but then manners is not the word known to the indians and you disrespect your host on his own forum with facts and figures.I despise this attitude among indans a lot.
Facts and figures from the movie 'Border' alright! All your figures are based on movies so they are movie facts. Unfortunately kid, Pakistanis are trying to bring in ground facts and figures while you want to bring in all kinds of concocted figures from movies trying to present them as facts. Feel the difference??