Pak Army fully prepared to thwart any aggression: COAS Gen Bajwa

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pakistan needs to (if they are not already) quietly go on the offensive. Start pumping in freedom fighters quietly, in the dead of the night. india can no more cry about "terrorism" and "infiltration" since now the case has been solidly made that india is committing genocide in Kashmir and that the masses are rebelling...given the sudden spike in cases of indian army's suicide rates, it seems Pakistan is already doing the afore mentioned. with no way to run, the average indian army/paramilitary soldier would rather commit suicide than be captured by the mujahideen...they know what will happen to them if the mujahideen capture them.

And, with an extremely high concentration of forces the number of enemy kills will be also high!!! The post traumatic syndrome would take a toll in itself!!! All the US medicines have failed to cure it....

i am not an expert on war gaming, but i think for the aggressor you need to have 3x size of army of your opponent.

As for IA, 3x norm is against BD!!! As against Pak, it's never enough - it has to be accompanied by Sheikh Abdullahs, Mujibs, Mukti Bahinis, TTPs, Last Afgans, BLAs, Dawns... etc. etc.!!! The list is damn long - it includes even the janitors at the Pentagon...

 

[SingHee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1074378082142826496

 

[Signalian]

oh mighty holy warriors of the internet keyboard fantasy land. say I am walking home from somewhere and am set upon by some street thugs do I

• start screaming for help

• start shouting like a bruce lee and get arrested for assaulting the muggers

• quietly krav maga the crap out of them while still looking like a victim

keep a safe distance and try to walk towards a populated area. Try to bring them to a terrain/area/building of my liking whose in's and out's i know already. keep my mobile handy and dial the emergency number.
Worst case, run, coz my Adrenalin would be at its max and i know i can even climb a tree which i can never do under normal circumstances.

Krav Maga is of course beneficial, i might go down but i will take them down with me.

GIGLIT (Dunya News) – Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Saturday expressed that Pakistan Army is vigilant on the situation in occupied Kashmir and fully prepared to thwart any aggression.

While addressing at the formation headquarters, COAS Bajwa appreciated the state of readiness and moral of the formation officers and troops despite challenges of weather, terrain and the enemy at the highest battlefield of the world. “We are alive to threat from Eastern Border linked to ongoing situation in IOJ&K and fully prepared to thwart any misadventure or aggression,” he added.

General Qamar Javed Bajwa while visiting the formation Headquarters at Gilgit also laid floral wreath on Shahadua monument.

Aggression on LOC being thwarted by PA.
Going inside IOK to save kashmiris is a no go.

WWe will advance further and retake Azad Kashmir when we want to.

Actually this time around, PA is anticipating that but knows that IA cannot make that venture.

Dear Gen Sahib,

We so defensive?

We are prepared I know but this time we need to be aggressors otherwise bigot Indian Hindus will kill all Muslim Kashmiris and we will discuss with India not IOK but Azaad Kashmir.


They are up to change demography of Kashmir, they are arresting and sending Muslim boys into concentration camps out of Kashmir.

Show some aggression and history will not forgave you and us.

Regards,

Well firstly, Kashmiris turned their backed against PA during 1965. Secondly, Kashmiris didn't come on the streets in 1971, 1984 (siachen is in kashmir), and then in 1999 or 2001/2 stand off. They didn't support PA in any significant way. So unfortunately, Kashmiris do not align themselves with PA when PA comes into action. Therefore PA is doing what it should do; giving response on LOC and securing western front.

 

[doorstar]

keep a safe distance and try to walk towards a populated area. Try to bring them to a terrain/area/building of my liking whose in's and out's i know already. keep my mobile handy and dial the emergency number.
Worst case, run, coz my Adrenalin would be at its max and i know i can even climb a tree which i can never do under normal circumstances.

Krav Maga is of course beneficial, i might go down but i will take them down with me.

thank you but you misunderstood me, It was a a figure of speech involving the comparison of one thing with another thing. I was trying to give myself as an example to illustrate Pakistan's current situation.

I was Pakistan
Thugs were injuns

krav maga was for Gen. Bajwa method of self-defense i.e fcuk the opponent quietly (to avoid gathering a crowd of witnesses against you) without making aggressive noises like the way retarded keyboard warriors, injuns and fake Pakistanis from the internet are advocating

 

[Signalian]

thank you but you misunderstood me, It was a a figure of speech involving the comparison of one thing with another thing. I was trying to give myself as example to illustrate Pakistan's current situation.

I was Pakistan
Thugs were injuns

krav maga was for Gen. Bajwa method of self-defense i.e fcuk the opponent quietly (to avoid gathering a crowd of witnesses against you) without making aggressive noises like the way retarded keyboard warriors, injuns and fake Pakistanis from the internet are advocating

i know what u meant, i read the first page of this thread. I replied coz i liked the way you inculcated Krav Maga as a technique against oppression.

Pakistan's concern is LOC, Durand line and the Baluchistan border. COAS and PA along with other Govt organisations have been working on all of these.

This situation is very tricky. If you intervene you will be labelled as terrorists and aggressors and lose all the political highground that you have achieved the indian media will have a field day and the world pressure will mount on you and even if you gain anything you will have to return it. Only if you are in a defensive mode can you retain conquered land.
In my humble opinion there are a few conditions which need to be fulfilled for us to remain on our political highground. A rise of locals with consequent crackdown on them by IA . THE second situation is either change in demographics of Kashmir or mass rape of women.
A war will have to be planned and enacted at the right time. With winter setting in September and October are not too far away and even if we were to engage we will soon get bogged down due to inclement weather. The losses will be humongous and the weather will be doing the work of the IA.
The better timing might be End March early April. This allows all parties to hone their strategy and go for the kill. This will also allow the Kashmiri Mujahideen to act nd if possible push the Khalsas into action. The combination will make life very difficult for IA and IF the Chinese join in the fray they are in for a drubbing.
I am unaware of the IOK but if it is as hilly as it seems progress may be difficult and fraught with danger and loss of life.
A

It is very very dumb to extend a front beyond LOC unless IA attacks, which IA won't. India is luring Pakistan since the Feb 2019 incident failed. India is trying in some way to initiate a military response which has been seen in 1980's and 1990's when SSG has been operating inside India, under cover ofcourse. India is desperate coz Yadav is an everyday slap on Indian face globally. There is frustration growing daily inside Delhi. Since past 2 decades, PA has been embroiled in a war, but neither PA nor Pakistan are breaking up or collapsing, infact PA has gathered more MBT's, more APC's, more Artillery, more SAM's, more Missiles and raised more formations in these past 2 decades. PAF raised more squadrons and replaced older aircrafts, PN is expanding. The unsecured Durand line is getting fenced. LOC is witnessing alot of casualities on both sides, so LOC dries down now and then. Drying up rivers didnt help to bring Pakistan to its knees as it was expected. Labeling paksitan with notorious names isnt coming around. CPEC is still running ahead. Indian-Friendly countries such as USA and other European nations are not putting sanctions on Pakistan.

Imagine the frustration in Delhi!

So Pakistan should defend its borders, follow up Kashmir issue on international forum and not fall in any traps set by enemies.

The reality is that Pakistan actually has a "weak army", rhetoric of "weak economy" that we have been hearing every now and then is just used as a convenient scapegoat. So much military spending in the last 7 decades and what we get in response is that Pakistan's army is only to "thwart" an aggression, it seems to be incapable/incompetent in imposing any kind of aggression on the enemy before it imposed on Pakistan.

Can you please let India know that Pakistan has a weak Army, so they can capitalize on this opportunity ?

Oh wait, maybe India already knows, but still IA isn't attacking Pakistan, makes me wonder why !

 

[doorstar]

Can you please let India know that Pakistan has a weak Army, so they can capitalize on this opportunity?

Oh wait, maybe India already knows, but still IA isn't attacking Pakistan, makes me wonder why !

oh I do wish I could rate this here post. just priceless

@Dubious @The Eagle @Khafee

 

[crankthatskunk]

thank you but you misunderstood me, It was a a figure of speech involving the comparison of one thing with another thing. I was trying to give myself as an example to illustrate Pakistan's current situation.

I was Pakistan
Thugs were injuns

krav maga was for Gen. Bajwa method of self-defense i.e fcuk the opponent quietly (to avoid gathering a crowd of witnesses against you) without making aggressive noises like the way retarded keyboard warriors, injuns and fake Pakistanis from the internet are advocating

In my youth, I have come across many a thugs in the mean streets of SW London.
On each and every occasion I beat the crap out of them. A proper hiding to many Black men who think too highly of themselves.
So my friend, been there, done that, got the scars to prove it.

 

[doorstar]

streets of SW London.

would that be Deptford, Lewisham and Greenwich etc.? I was there for a year some 40 years ago

 

[newb3e]

Ok, but Kashmir is an offensive game now - what are you doing about that? -

tweeter is a weapon of mass destruction

 

[crankthatskunk]

would that be Deptford, Lewisham and Greenwich etc.? I was there for a year some 40 years ago

No that is SE London. I said SW London.
Brixton, Clapham, Balham, Tooting, Streatham etc.

 

[doorstar]

No that is SE London. I said SW London.
Brixton, Clapham, Balham, Tooting, Streatham etc.

oopse, it's been a long time, and it sounded so familiar

 

[B.K.N]

So much military spending in the last 7 decades

Pakistani military spendings are nothing in front of Indian spendings
Strength and weakness are relative to each other Pakistani military is stronger than most of the militaries of the world but is weaker than Indian military
And no country in this world would like to fight with a country of equal strength and you expect Pakistan to attack a many times larger and stronger country
But for your information Pakistan has attacked India in 1965 and 1999 and all tajziya kars still criticize Ayub Khan and Musharaf for these wars and Pakistan lost siachin when your favorite general Zia was ruling Pakistan

 

[War Thunder]

Heck Israel had the whole world standing against them at UN. Still they moving ahead with deal of the century, Jerusalem capital move, 3rd Temple and the Greater Israel Project.

Inaction aur cowardice k ooper mein Allah ka shukar ada karon??

Yes the leaders are a reflection of masses.

But present muslim leaders of muslim world clearly don't reflect wishes of the muslim masses. Constantly betraying the muslims.

The track record of Pakistani leadership is exactly what scares me.

We all remember PM Gillani debacle. Where he said to Americans you can keep doing drone strikes and we will keep protesting. All visuals for Pakistani public while they had a secret deal with the enemy. And he must've had tacit approval of Gen Kiyani

Nhi, lekin jaha shukar karna tha waha nhi karney ki waja se inaction aur cowardice is placed above you. But you are still not Afghanistan or Syria. You are still being given a chance. And if ingratitde prevails, then the day aint far when your condition might not be very different from the Syrians or Iraqis. Because when you keep complaining, then you are given more reasons to complain.

Be thankful that you have food to eat, a place to sleep, and you are safe while doing so. There were people who enjoyed luxuries and still complained and today they have no home, their children murdered and their women raped, and they are but roaming around in confusion.

So be grateful for having what you have, and pray for better.

 

[agamdilawari]

you must next take other side of Kashmir and GB instead of waiting for them to do anything. since you are so sure of your bajrangi shakti and you know that they are are only good for "giving daily threats". so what the fcuk is stopping the mighty hanuman monkeys from advancing?

India did what it had to on its part of land. Its the people across the border who are getting irked, not India. So we don't need to do anything more at all.

 

[The Eagle]

India did what it had to on its part of land. Its the people across the border who are getting irked, not India. So we don't need to do anything more at all.

That is an occupied land and disputed territory, acknowledged by every party out there beside bilateral agreements & UNSC resolutions. Keep repeating the RSSed infected ideology of suppressing the weak & lynching minorities wouldn't make it India at all.