PAF's 35 Year Old Modern Day Killer

[The Eagle]

After pulwama they starting circulating pic of a destroyed belgian f16 saying paf shot down its own jet.Even after feb 27 they started fake news that LY-80 shot a jf17 mistakenly.But in reality they shot their own chopper carrying six personnels.

Post Pulwama, India has nothing to claim for some victory on the ground or in reality. Having such large Fake Media Industry & lack of dignity due to Nazi ruling India; it was necessary to run unlimited propaganda & flood internet with fake news to create confusion so the people may not see Modi getting bloody nose for crossing the line. The more they lied, more they are exposed & humiliated world wide. Indian propaganda machine has the habit to undermine every single development of Pakistan or success on any medium. Not just that, we do have an emotional lot at home which falls an easy prey to the non-stop Indian propaganda.

 

[loanranger]

Brother what happens when someone fires a very old yet functional gun at point blank range? You die!
I am saying its possible if the bison gets close enough!

and why will get F-16 is close enough its has better radar/BVR (AMRAAM C5) batter range/ better ECM/EW/Better instantaneous turn rate/better sustain turn rates etc etc @loanranger[/QUOTE]
I agree these why woulds are the reason that it did not happen. I am only pointing towards that FACT that it is possible. F7 PG takes down su 30....not possible?

 

[Ultima Thule]

I agree these why woulds are the reason that it did not happen. I am only pointing towards that FACT that it is possible. F7 PG takes down su 30....not possible?

not possible @loanranger

 

[Mav3rick]

The PAF ACM is on record for saying "two aircrafts going down"

But we have irrefutable evidence of only 1, a Mig-21. I do not wish to engage on claims which we cannot prove.

Btw - you didn't answer, F16 is 40yrs old?

Quite possibly older, F-16's were introduced in the late 70's; even Pakistani F-16's must be 30 or so years old (MLU doesn't mean that the Jet is NOT old). Besides, it is rather pointless to engage with me on a particular post, out of context to the post which was being replied to.

 

[Ultima Thule]

But we have irrefutable evidence of only 1, a Mig-21. I do not wish to engage on claims which we cannot prove.

You don't believe the words from ACM/DGISPR, and Indian claims of shot down of our F-16 were right for you @Mav3rick

Quite possibly older, F-16's were introduced in the late 70's; even Pakistani F-16's must be 30 or so years old (MLU doesn't mean that the Jet is NOT old). Besides, it is rather pointless to engage with me on a particular post, out of context to the post which was being replied to.

Both MKI-and F-16 is a 40+ design MKI based on Su-27 and Bison design (Mig-21) of 50s, So what your point @Mav3rick

 

[Mav3rick]

You don't believe the words from ACM/DGISPR, and Indian claims of shot down of our F-16 were right for you

No, I do not believe the words of the DG ISPR and there is a precedent of tweets and releases, not just related to the incident on 27th Feb but overall, on which my belief is based.

And I do not believe in Indian claims of shooting down any F-16, the simplest reason, according to my logic, is that IAF would have kept on hitting us again and again had they been able to shoot down an F-16, even if not with a Bison but by an SU-30MKI. The reason India backed down, or considered other options was simply because they were outclassed in the air combat that day and so they had to rule out further air engagement.

Both MKI-and F-16 is a 40+ design MKI based on Su-27 and Bison design (Mig-21) of 50s, So what your point

My point is that it is NOT a big deal that an old Jet shot down an even older Jet.

 

[Ultima Thule]

No, I do not believe the words of the DG ISPR and there is a precedent of tweets and releases, not just related to the incident on 27th Feb but overall, on which my belief is based.

So you don't want to believe professional and AIR CHIEF MARSHALL OF PAKISTANI AIR FORCE, so on which person do you wanna believe @Mav3rick

My point is that it is NOT a big deal that an old Jet shot down an even older Jet.

Kill is a BIG deal, in Vietnam war US jets are more advance then North Vietnamese Mig-21/Mig-17/Mig-15, they all consider valuable kills, its not about BIG or NO BIG deal but tried to demoralized/back off the enemy @Mav3rick

 

[GriffinsRule]

No, I do not believe the words of the DG ISPR and there is a precedent of tweets and releases, not just related to the incident on 27th Feb but overall, on which my belief is based.

And I do not believe in Indian claims of shooting down any F-16, the simplest reason, according to my logic, is that IAF would have kept on hitting us again and again had they been able to shoot down an F-16, even if not with a Bison but by an SU-30MKI. The reason India backed down, or considered other options was simply because they were outclassed in the air combat that day and so they had to rule out further air engagement.





My point is that it is NOT a big deal that an old Jet shot down an even older Jet.

Would it be a bigger deal is a new jet shot down an old jet? That line of reasoning doesn't make sense to me. The fact is a jet was shot down, and that in itself is a big deal.