PAF urgent need of SAM

[araz]

Sir
If you could divide it in paragraphs that would be more helpful.

Done as requested. Hope it helps now.
Araz

 

[omega supremme]

No. I believe the the Pakistani Military command has exceptional strategists, who know the exact ground realities of theater of conflict...Thus my humble comment. Hope that explains my point.

now you have a point don't say anything without a reason as you are think tank your talk should also depict your position as think tank
good job

 

[HAIDER]

Its not hurting anyone feelings. PAF standards are extremely high, because pilots attend special programs in US and learn new strategies and latest combat gear. And Chinese equipment doesn't match those standard. This is the reason, Pakistan has no Chinese high altitude defence equipment. Lately Chinese air defence system fail to pass the test. Pakistan doesn't have enough funds to buy European or US gear. China already buying S300 and S400 defence system from Russia.
Russia already offer Pantsir-S1 (SA-22), Tor-M2KM (SA-15), and Buk-M2 (SA-17) surface-to-air missile systems to Pakistan.

 

[Patriotic Strategist]

PAF seiously lacks good planners.... security state liek pakistan need word class weapons not chinese crap

 

[Basel]

sir jee any documented photo or video of LY-80 in pakistani service ?

Even on PDF it was confirmed that LY-80E has been published by PAF.

India has zero interest in fighting Pakistan, and Pakistani Military Command knows that quite well.

One of biggest lie from India.

Its not hurting anyone feelings. PAF standards are extremely high, because pilots attend special programs in US and learn new strategies and latest combat gear. And Chinese equipment doesn't match those standard. This is the reason, Pakistan has no Chinese high altitude defence equipment. Lately Chinese air defence system fail to pass the test. Pakistan doesn't have enough funds to buy European or US gear. China already buying S300 and S400 defence system from Russia.
Russia already offer Pantsir-S1 (SA-22), Tor-M2KM (SA-15), and Buk-M2 (SA-17) surface-to-air missile systems to Pakistan.

Man plz don't post stupid stuff, Pakistan's first High Altitude SAM SA-2/HQ-2 was provided by China and they are members of ASAT elite club of the world. They are behind west in terms of tech but their stuff is not junk as many think.

There have been rumours of PAF acquiring Hq-9 SAMs already. However no pics have been seen yet. From experience with the Pakistan Military anything is possible. They love to keep things a secret.

Tell me why an air force will purchase a radar of SAM system with out Missile??

 

[HAIDER]

Even on PDF it was confirmed that LY-80E has been published by PAF.



One of biggest lie from India.



Man plz don't post stupid stuff, Pakistan's first High Altitude SAM SA-2/HQ-2 was provided by China and they are members of ASAT elite club of the world. They are behind west in terms of tech but their stuff is not junk as many think.

Read my post again, its question of quality and reliability . Little example..HQ

Even on PDF it was confirmed that LY-80E has been published by PAF.



One of biggest lie from India.



Man plz don't post stupid stuff, Pakistan's first High Altitude SAM SA-2/HQ-2 was provided by China and they are members of ASAT elite club of the world. They are behind west in terms of tech but their stuff is not junk as many think.

Read my post again, its question of quality and reliability . Little example..HQ

 

[Basel]

Read my post again, its question of quality and reliability . Little example..HQ

Read my post again, its question of quality and reliability . Little example..HQ

Have you seen any Chinese system operational yourself in any branch of Pakistani military??

 

[Green Angel]

What we were doing for a long time .....

Waiting for war signal...... Not good at all.

 

[HAIDER]

Have you seen any Chinese system operational yourself in any branch of Pakistani military??

Anyway , Pakistan has SPADA etc up to 25km or may be max 30km range. Money is biggest issue when cross 30km . Russian has S400 with range around 400km to 600km with space object knock down. But Russia is not selling tech to anyone. And only Russia has it , no one else.

 

[Basel]

Anyway , Pakistan has SPADA etc up to 25km or may be max 30km range. Money is biggest issue when cross 30km . Russian has S400 with range around 400km to 600km with space object knock down. But Russia is not selling tech to anyone. And only Russia has it , no one else.

Why you didn't reply to my question?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

What PAF really needs is also a rangeless ACMI system for DACT training and analysis.Advanced ACMI systems have become really popular with european and USAF over the last decade,and india has been operating israeli systems for the past decade or so.As far as i know PAF still has not developed this capability which will result in a pilot training capability gap if they continue to lag behind.

 

[Eagle Claw]

Both sides are not interested in peace either... We have a chalta hai attitude... all this peace weace, needs a lot of work, and both sides have bigger fish to fry, both are politically lethargic and absolutely lack foresight and vision for the long term solutions.

India is cannot and won't roll over and demolish the 7th largest standing military on this planet. Pakistan is not going to break through into a 2nd largest standing military on earth either, so there is no winner in this game, and yes I do call it a game, because that is how it has become a over drawn game of number cricket that doesn't want to end. All parties hate each other but will still play along.


No. I believe the the Pakistani Military command has exceptional strategists, who know the exact ground realities of theater of conflict...Thus my humble comment. Hope that explains my point.

First Ever Logical Thing From an India !
Well you deserve Respect for such Argument.

But I just wana say, Pakistan is un-predictable at the same time Surprising !
From turning a lost Cricket Match into win - to the Breaking of USSR !
You will find many Astonishing things Done by Pakistan.

 

[Imran Khan]

What PAF really needs is also a rangeless ACMI system for DACT training and analysis.Advanced ACMI systems have become really popular with european and USAF over the last decade,and india has been operating israeli systems for the past decade or so.As far as i know PAF still has not developed this capability which will result in a pilot training capability gap if they continue to lag behind.

this one is not good pakistani system ???????

:: GIDS - ACMI-SYSTEM ::

 

[HAIDER]

Have you seen any Chinese system operational yourself in any branch of Pakistani military??

Yes, but low altitude knock down.
Pakistan has Crotale 11 km, SPADA 25 km, FM90/Crotale copy has 5 km range .
Here we are talking about Indian SU30 and high altitude intrusion. After Bombay incident , few probing by IAF, PAF realizethe need of high altitude defence weapons.
So, Pakistan has nothing for high altitude and that is the argument. Even China has nothing reliable to offer Pakistan. China order batteries of discountinued S300 and trying to get S400 from China. S300 has range of 25km to 30km. Chinese try to make copy of S300 in the form of FT2000 and it was failed.
ImranKhan argument is valid.......

 

[MilSpec]

now you have a point don't say anything without a reason as you are think tank your talk should also depict your position as think tank
good job

babaji,

I write what I feel, i dont get paid for this gig. If you want deeper answers, poke and thou shalt receive (that is if i am awake, and have a view point to begin with)