PAF surgical strikes in India, some observations, ramification.

[Kaniska]

the good thing that came out of this incident that no one, not even Indian, believe Indian govt and their leadership anymore, unlike them we did everything we say and have a documented proof of everything.

Again...we do not beleive our Gov where there are enough reason to suspect them....Unlike us,your people even do not question about why your state support elements who are part of terrorism in Kashmir..Or your people think supporting militants who attack Indian army is a good thing..

 

[Vortex]

Again...we do not beleive our Gov where there are enough reason to suspect them....Unlike us,your people even do not question about why your state support elements who are part of terrorism in Kashmir..Or your people think supporting militants who attack Indian army is a good thing..

Since when people fighting for their freedom are terrorists ?
You should ask first your government why they call people fighting for their freedom as terrorists !

 

[Kaniska]

Since when people fighting for their freedom are terrorists ?
You should ask first your government why they call people fighting for their freedom as terrorists !

It is not necessary you need to agree with all aspect of opinion that is different than mine...
Freedom is a luxury in this world...We live in a world of reality where Kashmir ll be in India in the same way Tibet is with China and Baloch people are in Pakistan...Does any one from Muslim worls even has the courage to ask what is going on Ughigur Muslima of China?? Did any one think if they also nees freedom..

So overall my point is that both nation should stop playing games in the name of moral biases....Pakistan need Kashmir because you need to expand your territory...India need Kashmir because we want to keep it...
Rest of the noise about freedom movement ,seculariam are just noise made by respective gov to manipulate their own people..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

This is a well dissected analysis and getting lost in all the rhetoric. Let me assure you that Pakistan has send a very strong message to all parties concerned. This is big.

We are forgetting the real surgical strike carried out by PAF. Forget the downing of fighters and capturing of pilots which is obviously a feat in itself. For me that is just a side show.

The way PAF infiltrated their airspace and mincemeated their military assets is mind boggling to say the least. The beauty is that PAF and officials aren’t gloating about it. It is so unbelievably graceful. Especially considering how IAF had the luxury of time to prepare in the wake of attacking Pakistan.

We cannot comprehend how massive of a morale booster this is. It is massive.



The Indians have only gone as far as admitting that the attack against military installations took place. They will never ever release the extent of damage, but judging by some Tweets from an ex-IAF pilot we can be rest assured it is more than significant. His words speak volume. This strike against Indian military installations has dented their morale in a big way.

Notice how the gang which was threatening Pakistan has gone into silence mode. They know what Pakistan achieved. It is a big scar that we left.

There is a reason why certain Zionists on this site are left in anguish LOL They understand what a blow Pakistan has delivered. The counter move is genius. It is overwhelming and it is the sort of response we will appreciate once people start thinking again without emotions. This one is for the history books.

The last time they got that much "shock" from the Turkish folks during 2016 July 15 coup....

This time it is from the Pak folks....

One nation two states...

 

[xyxmt]

Again...we do not beleive our Gov where there are enough reason to suspect them....Unlike us,your people even do not question about why your state support elements who are part of terrorism in Kashmir..Or your people think supporting militants who attack Indian army is a good thing..

Every Pakistani believes that child killers and rapists of Kashmir deserve punishment. Sit and behold now that world attention has turned to Kashmir, more and more of your terrorism will be exposed.

 

[Kaniska]

Every Pakistani believes that child killers and rapists of Kashmir deserve punishment.

Good to know that you accept of your people support attack on Indian army and provide arms aid and support to them...That is exactly India would like to present to the world...

 

[maximuswarrior]

The last time they got that much "shock" from the Turkish folks during 2016 July 15 coup....

This time it is from the Pak folks....

One nation two states...

If you dissect the military installation attack bit by bit you comprehend how big this really is. This is the absolute real deal. It delivers a jaw breaking message.

 

[CriticalThought]

@Taimoor Khan what is your proof of the specific armaments mentioned in OP being used for the op?

 

[airmarshal]

How did you guys confirm the other jet was Su-30?

The Indians have only gone as far as admitting that the attack against military installations took place. They will never ever release the extent of damage, but judging by some Tweets from an ex-IAF pilot we can be rest assured it is more than significant. His words speak volume. This strike against Indian military installations has dented their morale in a big way.

DG ISPR said we only locked and then disengaged. The idea was express the intent and capability. No military installations were hit. But Indians were aware their locations have been targeted.

 

[Knight Rider]

Again...we do not beleive our Gov where there are enough reason to suspect them....Unlike us,your people even do not question about why your state support elements who are part of terrorism in Kashmir..Or your people think supporting militants who attack Indian army is a good thing..

THIS VIDEO WILL EXPLAIN !!!

 

[Imran Khan]

this is the real news Indian jests were falling down in between Pakistani surgical strike is something else but real game was our strike

 

[Patriotgames]

This entire episode reminds me of former COAS General Raheel Shareef's statement about that supposed Indian "Surgical Strike" part 1. He had stated, "if we will do a surgical strike, it will become part of history books in India".

I guess after this current conflict, this may prove to be true. Pakistan Zindabad.

 

[khansaheeb]

Locations targeted in Indian occupied Kashmir:

https://nation.com.pk/28-Feb-2019/pak-forces-zindabad

“We kept in mind that no collateral damage is caused. Therefore, keeping within our own air space, we selected Bhimber Gali, PG Top and Naryan area targets, our pilots locked those target. When they had an option to fire, they manifested responsibility and keeping safety engaged the targets in an open area.”

Bhimber Gali:


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Can easily spot a major infrasture and army trucks. Would be nice to get some confirmation if it is the Indian army Dev HQ.

Distance from LOC + 10 kms aireal buffer zone:

View attachment 543079

Standoff distance achive: 17KMs


Naryan:

There is no place coming up as Naryan. However, just above Srinagar, there is a place called Narayan. Guessing this is the place for the strike.

Distance from LOC + 10 kms aireal buffer zone:

View attachment 543081


Standoff distance achived: 77KMs


PG top:

Location unknown. Not visible in google map (Please add in your comments if identified)


I have got confirmation that targets as far as 100KMs from LOC inside India were hit.


Pakistani strikes represented escalation, claims India


When asked if Pakistan's incursion and alleged targeting of military installations could be construed as an act of war, Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor avoided a yes or no answer and instead alleged that Pakistan had targeted military installations in its strikes, and that represented an escalation in itself.



According to own Indian admission, the targets hit were "military installations". This debunk Indian initial non sense that IAF chased PAF down and the strikes didnt happen. This also raise questions about Pakistan public narrative that it didnt hit the targets but dropped bombs nearby just to send the message, however according to Indian Air vice Marshall, Pakistan targeted the military installation directly. This gives credence to whispers going about that indeed Pakistan knocked out several Indian military installation causing considerable causalities among Indian forces.

Weapons used by PAF:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-4_SOW

View attachment 543088


H4
Type Precision-guided glide bomb
Place of origin Pakistan
Service history
In service 2003–Present [1][2]
Used by Pakistan Air Force
Production history
Manufacturer NESCOM
Specifications
Warhead High explosives
Engine Solid propellant booster (rocketry)
Operational
range
120 km
Guidance
system
Electro-optical (infrared homing)


Launch platform : Mirage.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-2_SOW
H-2
Type Precision-guided glide bomb
Place of origin Pakistan
Service history
In service 2003 [1][2]
Used by Pakistan Air Force
Production history
Manufacturer NESCOM
Specifications
Warhead High explosives
Operational
range
60 km
Guidance
system
Electro-optical (TV or infra-red imaging)


Launch platform : Mirage.





Old discussion on PDF about these weapon systems.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/h2-and-h4-are-aam-or-agm.28713/




REK: (Range extenson Kits)

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-with-stand-off-range-weapon-gids-rek.483318/


View attachment 543092


Range: 100KM

Launch platform: JF-17

RAMIFICATIONS:

1) Since India is chosen by the western deep states to be their regional sugarbaby, there was a well established pattern going on , since the NRO'ed leadership (Zardari and Nawaz) took over Pakistan, that whatever non sense will come from India, Pakistan had to except it. NOT ANYMORE.

2) From now on, India cannot use Pakistan for its internal politics without getting its face disfigured. Questions should be asked within India, after receiving this humiliation of surgical strike by Pakistan and shooting down of IAF jets, which leader will go to polls and think he/she will get votes? Like what? give me votes cause I lead India just to get spanked by Pakistan?

3) No one including India could now use any pretext, terrorism specially, to violate Pakistan sovereignty.

4) By hitting India, the main poodle of "extra regional powers", a message is being send to some local irritants like Kabul regime and Iranian military and establishment. People like Solimani should now exercise restraint in their utterances.

5) Israeli weaponry and system, on this occasion, used by Indian forces have been rendered useless. Their SOW performance was utter shambols, and Israeli upgraded SU30 and Mig21 Bison got blown out of sky. The ease with which PAF hit targets deep inside IOK, made the short work of Israeli provided air defence systems. A big question mark over Israeli products. Its one thing to use on Palestinians and tin pot Syrian and Iranian forces, but here, its a different ball game.


6) A BIG, rather MASSIVE, marketing coup for JF17. You dont have to sell it now, it has done its talking in battlefield. From lower tear Mig21 to top of the line SU30, from air to air combat, to stand off ground attack in one sortie. A true multi role and affordable jet.

7) Great marketing for Pakistani weapon systems, The H series and REK.

8) If lower tier of Pakistani stand off weaponry can make mockery of India, what would be the likes of RAAD 1/2 and beyond (classified) would do ?

9) Make no mistake, rules of the game are changed now. Yanks and their poodles in the region are not going to write the script now and expect everyone to follow. Not anymore.

10) We didnt receive any support after Indian so called strike, we replied on our own, with our own resources, capability and will.



Please add your input and observations. Thank you.

Can you imagine the sales for block III??

I have reported you to the mods for insulting poodles:"By hitting India, the main poodle of "extra regional powers""

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

This is a well dissected analysis and getting lost in all the rhetoric. Let me assure you that Pakistan has sent a very strong message to all parties concerned. This is big and it is not India centric. Let me repeat, it is not India centric!

We are forgetting the real surgical strike carried out by PAF. Forget the downing of fighters and capturing of pilots which is obviously a feat in itself. For me that is just a side show. Judging by subdued and disgruntled response of Indian authorities we can gauge what an impact this strike has left. It has dismantled and demoralized Indian psychology.

The way PAF infiltrated their airspace and mincemeated their military assets is mind boggling to say the least. The beauty is that PAF and officials aren’t gloating about it. It is so unbelievably graceful. Especially considering how IAF had the luxury of time to prepare in the wake of attacking Pakistan. After all India being the initiator had the luxury to anticipate and plan ahead.

We cannot comprehend how massive of a morale booster this is. It is massive.



The Indians have only gone as far as admitting that the attack against military installations took place. They will never ever release the extent of damage, but judging by some Tweets from an ex-IAF pilot we can be rest assured it is more than significant. His words speak volume. This strike against Indian military installations has dented their morale in a big way.

Notice how the gang which was threatening Pakistan has gone into silence mode. They know what Pakistan achieved. It is a big scar that we left.

There is a reason why certain Zionists on this site are left in anguish LOL They understand what a blow Pakistan has delivered. The counter move is genius. It is overwhelming and it is the sort of response we will appreciate once people start thinking again without emotions. This one is for the history books folks.

I cannot imagine the pride and confidence PAF must be feeling after conducting such an offensive. Flying into enemy territory and destroy military installations without any loss. It is colossal.

Birds in the same flock fly together!!! If one of them can be put into despair the whole lot gets into the same mode!!!! Their courage, reliance, beliefs, pride, capability etc. are all based on illusive demagogues!!! Once you hit at the base, they fall like a house of cards as their principal supporter flees away before they know it....

 

[khansaheeb]

Birds in the same flock fly together!!! If one of them can be put into despair the whole lot gets into the same mode!!!! Their courage, reliance, beliefs, pride, capability etc. are all based on illusive demagogues!!! Once you hit at the base, they fall like a house of cards as their principal supporter flees away before they know it....

absolutely true:-

World's most powerful militaries:-

1. USA
2. China
3. Russia
4. Pakistan
5. France
6. United Kingdom
7. Afghanistan
8. Vietnam
9. India