PAF Order of Battle

[ejaz007]

Can any one give me actual order of battle of PAF in 1965 and 1971 with links, if possible.

I need the info for writing about PAF and info from reliable source shall be appreciated.

I have the numbers and are correct according to my info but can not back them up with proper links.

Regards,

 

[fatman17]

Can any one give me actual order of battle of PAF in 1965 and 1971 with links, if possible.

I need the info for writing about PAF and info from reliable source shall be appreciated.

I have the numbers and are correct according to my info but can not back them up with proper links.

Regards,

no one can be 100% exact but the estimates can be close. i'll provide you my estimates shortly.

 

[fatman17]

1965.

4 Day Fighter / Interceptor Wings, each of 2 Squadrons with 12 F-86F Sabres. so 4 Wings with 24 aircraft = 96 aircraft. plus an additional Sabre for the wing leader = 4 bringing the total to 100 F-86Fs.

24 Martin B-57 Canberras, 1 RB-57 and 2 B-57C Trainers.
12 F-104A Starfighters.
16 T-33 and RT-33 Jet Conversion and Reconnaissance Squadron.

Total of 155 aircraft in 11 Squadrons. sanctioned strength was 15 Squadrons.

ORBAT taken from John Fricker's Battle for Pakistan.

1971

18 Mirage IIIEP
20 B-57 Canberras (under US sanction for spares)
10 F-104A Starfighters (under US sanction for spares)
60 F-6 Farmers.
72 F-86F and F-86 Mk V (F-86F were under US sanction for spares)

180 aircraft in 13 Squadrons. Sanctioned strength was 20 Squadrons.

ORBAT taken from FIZA'YA, Psyche of the Pakistan Air Force by Pushpinder Singh and Ravi Rikhye.

 

[chindit]

1965

No 2 Sqn
No 5 Sqn Sabre
No 6 Sqn C-130?
No 7 Sqn B-57
No 8 Sqn B-57
No 9 Sqn F-104
No 11 Sqn Sabre
No 12 Sqn
No 14 Sqn Sabre
No 15 Sqn
No 17 Sqn Sabre
No 18 Sqn Sabre
No 19 Sqn Sabre
No 20 Sqn
No 24 Sqn

1971
No 2 Sqn
No 5 Sqn Mirage III
No 6 Sqn C-130?
No 7 Sqn B-57
No 9 Sqn Starfighter
No 11 Sqn
No 12 Sqn
No 14 Sqn Sabre
No 15 Sqn
No 17 Sqn
No 18 Sqn
No 19 Sqn Sabre
No 20 Sqn
No 23 Sqn F-6
No 25 Sqn F-6
No 26 Sqn F-6

 

[fatman17]

1965

No 2 Sqn
No 5 Sqn Sabre
No 6 Sqn C-130?
No 7 Sqn B-57
No 8 Sqn B-57
No 9 Sqn F-104
No 11 Sqn Sabre
No 12 Sqn
No 14 Sqn Sabre
No 15 Sqn
No 17 Sqn Sabre
No 18 Sqn Sabre
No 19 Sqn Sabre
No 20 Sqn
No 24 Sqn

1971
No 2 Sqn
No 5 Sqn Mirage III
No 6 Sqn C-130?
No 7 Sqn B-57
No 9 Sqn Starfighter
No 11 Sqn
No 12 Sqn
No 14 Sqn Sabre
No 15 Sqn
No 17 Sqn
No 18 Sqn
No 19 Sqn Sabre
No 20 Sqn
No 23 Sqn F-6
No 25 Sqn F-6
No 26 Sqn F-6

good estimate however we r talking front-line only!

 

[chindit]

good estimate however we r talking front-line only!

oh not my estimate. I copied it from another pakistani site page i had saved long time ago.

 

[fatman17]

oh not my estimate. I copied it from another pakistani site page i had saved long time ago.

sirjee - pls provide link of pakistani site! - pls note i dont rely on pak or indian sites!

 

[chindit]

sirjee - pls provide link of pakistani site! - pls note i dont rely on pak or indian sites!

you can also try paffalcons.com they have good infromation. ask the webmaster about it.

 

[fatman17]

you can also try paffalcons.com they have good infromation. ask the webmaster about it.

pakfalcons!!! sheesh!

 

[chindit]

pakfalcons!!! sheesh!

PAF Falcons Forums :: View topic - PAF s' Air War Plan June, 1965

tell me what is wrong - it is one of your own

PAF Battle Deployment before 1965 War:-

F-86s Sabre:
No. 5 Sqn
No. 11 Sqn
No. 14 Sqn
No. 15 Sqn
No. 16 Sqn
No. 17 Sqn
No. 18 Sqn
No. 19 Sqn
B-57s Martin:
No. 7 Sqn
No. 8 Sqn
No. 24 Sqn (Elint)
F-104s Star fighter
No. 9 Sqn
T-33: Adv Training Jet
No. 20 P/Reccee Sqn
No. 2 Sqn
SA-16: M/Reccee
No. 4 Sqn
Others: Transport
No. 6 Sqn
No.12 Sqn

 

[fatman17]

tell me what is wrong - it is one of your own

that is the problem!

 

[chindit]

tell me what is wrong - it is one of your own

that is the problem!

the guy clearly quoted his sources which include what you stated and more.

read the text and point out what is wrong. just saying "he is a pakistani" or
"that site is indian" is a very poor response.

and it is rather strange to see pakistanis pulling down other pakistanis. what will make you happy?

 

[fatman17]

the guy clearly quoted his sources which include what you stated and more.

read the text and point out what is wrong. just saying "he is a pakistani" or
"that site is indian" is a very poor response.

and it is rather strange to see pakistanis pulling down other pakistanis. what will make you happy?

no need to get upset matey!

i try to rely on facts not fanboy stuff which we see a lot of!

 

[shehbazi2001]

1965.

4 Day Fighter / Interceptor Wings, each of 2 Squadrons with 12 F-86F Sabres. so 4 Wings with 24 aircraft = 96 aircraft. plus an additional Sabre for the wing leader = 4 bringing the total to 100 F-86Fs.

24 Martin B-57 Canberras, 1 RB-57 and 2 B-57C Trainers.
12 F-104A Starfighters.
16 T-33 and RT-33 Jet Conversion and Reconnaissance Squadron.

Total of 155 aircraft in 11 Squadrons. sanctioned strength was 15 Squadrons.

ORBAT taken from John Fricker's Battle for Pakistan.

1971

18 Mirage IIIEP
20 B-57 Canberras (under US sanction for spares)
10 F-104A Starfighters (under US sanction for spares)
60 F-6 Farmers.
72 F-86F and F-86 Mk V (F-86F were under US sanction for spares)

180 aircraft in 13 Squadrons. Sanctioned strength was 20 Squadrons.

ORBAT taken from FIZA'YA, Psyche of the Pakistan Air Force by Pushpinder Singh and Ravi Rikhye.

I think these are only combat aircraft numbers as we dont see the C-130 and T-37 and T-6G Harward etc.

T-33 if included in 1965 should also be included in 1971 head. Actually T-33 was used for recce.

Also the 1971 count includes the Mirage-IIIDPs (6 in number I think) in addition to single seat Mirage-IIIEPs.

'P' in Mirage-IIIEP and Mirage-IIIEP is I think for "Pakistan" just as 'J' in Mirage-IIICJ and Mirage-IIIBJ is for Israel. Brazil had Mirage-IIIEBR and Spain had Mirage-IIIEE, with E for Espana.

For the 1971 head, we dont see the almost 90 F-86s given to Pakistan by Iran through Germany. Its said that almost half were put into active service and the rest may have been used for spares.

 

[fatman17]

I think these are only combat aircraft numbers as we dont see the C-130 and T-37 and T-6G Harward etc.

T-33 if included in 1965 should also be included in 1971 head. Actually T-33 was used for recce.

Also the 1971 count includes the Mirage-IIIDPs (6 in number I think) in addition to single seat Mirage-IIIEPs.

'P' in Mirage-IIIEP and Mirage-IIIEP is I think for "Pakistan" just as 'J' in Mirage-IIICJ and Mirage-IIIBJ is for Israel. Brazil had Mirage-IIIEBR and Spain had Mirage-IIIEE, with E for Espana.

For the 1971 head, we dont see the almost 90 F-86s given to Pakistan by Iran through Germany. Its said that almost half were put into active service and the rest may have been used for spares.[/QUOTE]

they were delivered but all were not active - kept in reserves and also used for spares to keep the F-86Fs flightworthy.

now we are not going to go to combat with the C130, T6G etc. its all about front-line sqdns in combat. just my HO.