PAF JF17s fought excellent against Su30

[Ultima Thule]

I am saying after all that effort and everything we only have a mig wreckage

So what, if it shoot down only Mig, it doesn't matter whether it shoot down a single Mig or bunch of targets, its proof its value as a BATTLE PROVEN jet, its whole Package of F-16/JF-17/Mirages to intercept enemy fighters, its tactics applied by PAF at 27 FEB @alee92nawaz

 

[SIPRA]

Many things are yet unclear, at least, in public sphere.

 

[sparten]

The interview was obviously legit.

 

[Ultima Thule]

The interview was obviously legit.

Why its legit Please explain @sparten

 

[Yaseen1]

su30 shot down by jf17 is not unexpected as indian su30 are poorly maintained and unable to fly at its full potential making it vulnerable to kill.Crash rate of this jet is also higher than jf17 and f16 of our airforce

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Well you are entitled to your opinion, but I would like to respectfully disagree.

How the correct use of AWACS, EW, Decoys, & BVR gave an opponent with numerical advantage, not just a broken nose, but a face so mangled, it is unrecognizable.

I said "equal in terms of the capabilities of resources used" , not quantity. Indians got knocked out due to their poor training and strategies , not because of the platform they were using.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Still only 1 plane went down.

Point is, PAF's training/tactics kicked in and they were able to successfully deliver a strike package with deadly precision in broad daylight against the IA, and then fight off the incoming interceptors. PAF was able to work cohesively as a team and employ its force multipliers in an integrated cohesive manner.

Think of the myth and propaganda that was busted. Our Indian Friends have been parroting for the past 10 years that SU30MKI was designed by God himself, in fact it might even be better then the F22 Raptor so its best if PAF surrenders on the first day of the War. Post February 27, IAF was handing out patches to its pilots and celebrating how the SU30MKI is an AMRAAM dodger. But analyze this more closely, is this something to celebrate?

We were told by our Indian Friends that SU30MKI's BARS radar was blessed by Jesus himself. It can operate like a Mini AWAC and burn through any ECM that PAF might possibly employ. But what happened, why couldn't the super duper BARS lock on any PAF fast movers and take BVRAAM shots? On the other hand, PAF fast movers successfully locked and took multiple shots at IAF's fighters. In fact, PAF's response was so aggressive that it forced the SU30MKI's to evade the AMRAAM's, turn around, and bugger out at supersonic speeds. Additional IAF fighters would have gone down if the IAF decided that it wanted to give a fight, but they didn't and exited the combat zone.

 

[Rafael]

Point is, PAF's training/tactics kicked in and they were able to successfully deliver a strike package with deadly precision in broad daylight against the IA, and then fight off the incoming interceptors. PAF was able to work cohesively as a team and employ its force multipliers in an integrated cohesive manner.

Think of the myth and propaganda that was busted. Our Indian Friends have been parroting for the past 10 years that SU30MKI was designed by God himself, in fact it might even be better then the F22 Raptor so its best if PAF surrenders on the first day of the War. Post February 27, IAF was handing out patches to its pilots and celebrating how the SU30MKI is an AMRAAM dodger. But analyze this more closely, is this something to celebrate?

We were told by our Indian Friends that SU30MKI's BARS radar was blessed by Jesus himself. It can operate like a Mini AWAC and burn through any ECM that PAF might possibly employ. But what happened, why couldn't the super duper BARS lock on any PAF fast movers and take BVRAAM shots? On the other hand, PAF fast movers successfully locked and took multiple shots at IAF's fighters. In fact, PAF's response was so aggressive that it forced the SU30MKI's to evade the AMRAAM's, turn around, and bugger out at supersonic speeds. Additional IAF fighters would have gone down if the IAF decided that it wanted to give a fight, but they didn't and exited the combat zone.

Another thing which most people do not appreciate is how the feb events have given a shut up call to Indian generals. Remember before the skirmish, the IA cheif and other commanders used to give statments to the media every other day about how they will teach Pakistan a lesson.

But it was all blown to bits and IA commanders knew that they can no longer rely on IAF to deter PAF. Their top cover was gone just like that and the fear of God instilled in their hearts. Hence no more statements.

 

[New World]

I have a question about the DGISPR statement that we have two pilots, who was the second pilot?

He said three pilots. one abhi, second in hospital and third is on run...

 

[Humble Analyst]

He said three pilots. one abhi, second in hospital and third is on run...

Ok so third so who is was the second or third pilot? Something does not add up but will come out with time.

 

[New World]

Ok so third so who is was the second or third pilot? Something does not add up but will come out with time.

DGISPR backtracked his statement about other 2 pilots.. and why he backtracked his words we dont know.

@TheTallGuy and @Khafee may add something to it..

 

[HAIDER]

According to the Pakistani pilot interviewed JF 17 did extremely well against supposedly much better plane. They would have never printed this had they not interviewed the real pilot involved in combat.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...-secret-weapon-against-indian-air-force-72441

PAF already test JF17 2 block many times against SU30 in China .. lots of air combat simulations done.

 

[TsAr]

su30 shot down by jf17 is not unexpected as indian su30 are poorly maintained and unable to fly at its full potential making it vulnerable to kill.Crash rate of this jet is also higher than jf17 and f16 of our airforce

Poor maintenance means less availability of the aircrafts. If a plane is airborne it means that it is fully functional and in flyable condition. Any IAF plane that was flying on 26 and 27 Feb was by no means less potent.

 

[Yaseen1]

Poor maintenance means less availability of the aircrafts. If a plane is airborne it means that it is fully functional and in flyable condition. Any IAF plane that was flying on 26 and 27 Feb was by no means less potent.

Fighterjet is different from commercial aircrafts as its job is not limited to ability of flying,it has to maneuver and carry and launch weapons as well as its radar and communication system must be more efficient so even a fighterjet is flying it not means it is flying in full capacity

 

[TsAr]

Fighterjet is different from commercial aircrafts as its job is not limited to ability of flying,it has to maneuver and carry and launch weapons as well as its radar and communication system must be more efficient so even a fighterjet is flying it not means it is flying in full capacity

What proof do you have that IAF planes radars or any other avionics was not workibg? Regarding your statement about commercial jets let me remind you that it carries more then 300 people at an average and are very expensive, inorder for a commercial plane to get permission to fly all it's avionics needs to be properly working, it's preflight checks are more stringent then and fighter plane. Go ask an aviation engineer.