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Why the rule about course mates?
I dont know


They can do mischief[/QUOTE]
No chance of mischief...these are professional people,from cadet to the top,they dont risk valuable assets and there's always some senior pilot in another aircraft montering.Plus the rule is for every rank,not just for trainees.

Hi,

This is war---there should be " no narrative "---correct or not.

Giving out details about the operation---what we did---how we did it---what we used---how we used it---giving out this information is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE---.

ISPR should have had no say in it---.

Then the Sqdrn Ldr's call to his old boss---. The boss recording that call and leaking it---. That is a criminal offence as well---.

It was like poor starving children got a toy and they started showing off in front of everyone---.

And then this BS about the displaying the patches---what garbage---.

What have they done---shot down a 3rd rate Mig 21and a possible SU30 and supposedly let escape 6 enemy aircraft even though a very high ranking air marshall was flying & incharge of the mission---.

Where secrecy is concerned---this mission was and is a TOTAL FAILURE---.

Where preparation is concerned about covering all options---this mission is a 60% failure---for not being ready in advance to tackle the enemy aircraft that were incoming and Paf got lock on---.

That thing should have been covered in the " WHAT IF " part of the briefing.

Letting the indian navy submarine and that too a Scorpene escape that is a failure of the century---. That was a total disgrace---.

That would have avenged the Atlantique---.
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F-16 B with Tail No. 606, is a TWIN seater aircraft.

Why does the list contain only ONE name ? There should have been TWO names of both the officers who flew on that aircraft.

Is the missing name of the officer who died in the hospital and mistaken for Indian pilot ?
Welcome with your new ID.
If you had a brain, you would be dangerous.
How does the name of the second pilot even matters when the name of the shooter and aircraft serial number is there for all to read and see. Had you bothered reading the full article by sir Kaiser Tufail, then your mind may have been at rest.....here enlighten yourself.

Q7. The Roll of Honour has only a few names? Why have several other names been omitted?


A7. The Roll of Honour includes only those pilots who launched weapons, or controlled them post-launch. It does not include airborne reserves, nor the rear seat occupants ('Guy In the Back Seat' or GIBS) of F-16B. Similarly, the numerous pilots performing fighter sweep or CAPs are not mentioned, as they did not get an opportunity to launch weapons. Finally, the aircrew of AEWCS and EW aircraft have not been included. The contribution of all participating aircrew has, however, been duly acknowledged by the PAF.
 
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F-16 B with Tail No. 606, is a TWIN seater aircraft.

Why does the list contain only ONE name ? There should have been TWO names of both the officers who flew on that aircraft.

Is the missing name of the officer who died in the hospital and mistaken for Indian pilot ?


So the pilot of 606 landed back with his aircraft but the GIBS released the canopy and ejected and got killed.

Is that what you are trying to say? What is this a movie?
 
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He is trying hard to make his lies a reality
The Indian media and warlords had created such a hype about their armed forces that it's hard for them to accept the humiliation dished out to them by the PAF in a daring daylight operation.
These creatures are not interested as despite the tall claims on Balakot strike, why even a trickle of smoke wasn't observed from the seminary, they don't have the brains to question that what happened to the so called Rapptor of the East on 27th Feb and why did SU-30 pilots were bugging out with unrealistic excuses, not concerned about the disgrace of their pilot getting shot down and captured and how in just a minor skirmish they managed to shoot down own helicopter.....but hey we are Indians, lets make a hero out of zero and question why the name of a back seater hasn't been mentioned.
Oh, let's not even wonder as why the IAF Airchief himself is having to do press conferences and prone to make excuses and give statements every other day, :lol:
 
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So 606 was shot down by Abhi-None-Done's Mig-21 but it landed back and is still in active duty but it's GIBS ejected and was thought to be indian by citizens and tortured to death .. star plus over dosage effect
 
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He is trying hard to make his lies a reality
The Indian media and warlords had created such a hype about their armed forces that it's hard for them to accept the humiliation dished out to them by the PAF in a daring daylight operation.
These creatures are not interested as despite the tall claims on Balakot strike, why even a trickle of smoke wasn't observed from the seminary, they don't have the brains to question that what happened to the so called Rapptor of the East on 27th Feb and why did SU-30 pilots were bugging out with unrealistic excuses, not concerned about the disgrace of their pilot getting shot down and captured and how in just a minor skirmish they managed to shoot down own helicopter.....but hey we are Indians, lets make a hero out of zero and question why the name of a back seater hasn't been mentioned.
Oh, let's not even wonder as why the IAF Airchief himself is having to do press conferences and prone to make excuses and give statements every other day, :lol:
They are a deluded bunch.

After arguing with one of them who made a false claim in the beginning of the discussion that he critically analyses the claims of Modi govt, I have come to the conclusion that these dotheads are not worth arguing with as they are all the same no matter what they claim to be.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paf-...ison-alan-warnes.614187/page-84#post-11575442

It is too hard for them to digest that a military which they thought was inferior, smaller and low on budget handed them their little behinds on a platter.

No matter how many times you comprehensively debunk their preposterous claims, they still keep on parroting the same stuff and bring in 65,71, hamood ur rahman report, kargil and whatnot.

They believe with conviction that every claim their airforce made is nothing but the truth even when their claims contradict each other and give away hints of the lackluster performance of IAF.
 
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F-16 B with Tail No. 606, is a TWIN seater aircraft.

Why does the list contain only ONE name ? There should have been TWO names of both the officers who flew on that aircraft.

Is the missing name of the officer who died in the hospital and mistaken for Indian pilot ?

Its Indian delusion that people or PAF assumed it was Indian pilot when the pilots and Pakistan army has Pakistani Flag Patch on their shoulders. So even if, assuming it a plane was shot down, Pakistan pilot did land than people would have recognised him for several reason:
1. Pakistan Flag Patch
2. his language;
3. his uniform and name tag.

Its now Bollywood.
 
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F-16 B with Tail No. 606, is a TWIN seater aircraft.

Why does the list contain only ONE name ? There should have been TWO names of both the officers who flew on that aircraft.

Is the missing name of the officer who died in the hospital and mistaken for Indian pilot ?


I find this war of narrative interesting, even more now, after a lot of details on the skirmish have been shared by both sides.

What has been absolutely astonishing for Pakistan itself and other parties around the world including NATO, is how quickly India lowered its nuclear threshold by threatening missile strikes, once Abhinandan was held by Pakistan. This is before Pakistan even considered the nuclear option. They did not threaten with more air strikes, knowing fully well that IAF will sustain damages. This was unfathomable, just until the start of this year.

This changes a lot of theories surrounding a future ‘short-war’ that Pakistan has been threatened with for a long time now.

While some parties are still discussing ‘names’ of pilots shared, the entire world and more specifically military sections around the world are seeing this skirmish in an entirely different light.
 
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F-16 B with Tail No. 606, is a TWIN seater aircraft.

Why does the list contain only ONE name ? There should have been TWO names of both the officers who flew on that aircraft.

Is the missing name of the officer who died in the hospital and mistaken for Indian pilot ?


Why are you worried about other pilot? On right time,armed forces will reveal all information.

Hi,

This is war---there should be " no narrative "---correct or not.

Giving out details about the operation---what we did---how we did it---what we used---how we used it---giving out this information is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE---.

ISPR should have had no say in it---.

Then the Sqdrn Ldr's call to his old boss---. The boss recording that call and leaking it---. That is a criminal offence as well---.

It was like poor starving children got a toy and they started showing off in front of everyone---.

And then this BS about the displaying the patches---what garbage---.

What have they done---shot down a 3rd rate Mig 21and a possible SU30 and supposedly let escape 6 enemy aircraft even though a very high ranking air marshall was flying & incharge of the mission---.

Where secrecy is concerned---this mission was and is a TOTAL FAILURE---.

Where preparation is concerned about covering all options---this mission is a 60% failure---for not being ready in advance to tackle the enemy aircraft that were incoming and Paf got lock on---.

That thing should have been covered in the " WHAT IF " part of the briefing.

Letting the indian navy submarine and that too a Scorpene escape that is a failure of the century---. That was a total disgrace---.

That would have avenged the Atlantique---.

Sir these type of information doesn't reveal our overall plan.there is no technical detail. I agree there were more targets on that day but I think we did well overall.yes allowing scorpene to escape was a very big mistake but in the end,we wanted to show capability and we ourselves aren't ready for war.basically we don't want war.according to iaf,one amraam was recovered near ammo Depot.i don't understand what amraam was doing near ammo depot.there are lots of new information on this subject which is not public.our armed forces will reveal detail at the right time.right now,we should trust paf and we should support them.
 
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What has been absolutely astonishing for Pakistan itself and other parties around the world including NATO, is how quickly India lowered its nuclear threshold by threatening missile strikes, once Abhinandan was held by Pakistan. This is before Pakistan even considered the nuclear option.
This fact needs to be repeated by our politicians and media, again and again. We have to convince the world that when it comes to nuclear weapons, it's India that is the rogue state.

Imagine if (Allah forbid) Pakistan had lost a few jets and had threatened India with a nuclear attack? All sorts of sanctions would have been imposed on Pakistan
 
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This fact needs to be repeated by our politicians and media, again and again. We have to convince the world that when it comes to nuclear weapons, it's India that is the rogue state.

Imagine if (Allah forbid) Pakistan had lost a few jets and had threatened India with a nuclear attack? All sorts of sanctions would have been imposed on Pakistan
When you go nuclear, you don't care about the sanctions.
 
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Recognize the Aircraft ? its 606.

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It seems that F-16B can be operated by a single pilot unless the mission profile specifically needs two pilots. We do not have concrete proof that on 27th the above 606 had one or two pilots, and who the 2nd guy is.
 
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