PAF bombing homes in Waziristan is Justified

[Krate M]

I was discussing internal politics with them. And the effect of war, which is uprooting peace in the region.

Bhai you know very well what is uprooting the peace. All you are ending up doing is making yourself look like tellybunny supporter and making the Pakistani posters paranoid about why are Indians in this thread.
They are not going to see how they are creating the next problem.
Let that be the case, why you are trying to make more knowledgeable those who think of you as enemy.
Let Pakistani people settle this between themselves.

 

[Paksanity]

Indian members, please follow this link if you dare to face the truth!

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/2...rs-who-kill-and-rape-civilians.html?referrer=

 

[Paksanity]

A copy paste of my post on same subject from another thread.

Millions of people do not live in North Waziristan. It is a rugged area and very few towns and scattered small villages in valleys. Area can not support large population, there isn't enough resources like agricultural land etc. You probably have not seen the area. If you have Google Earth, zoom into this area and see how many villages, towns and houses you can find.

It is a tribal area with strong family bonds. Old, sick and handicapped are not living alone, they live in very large families which is norm in this area. They are always carried by their able family members and Army has encouraged them to leave the area. Take example of Punjab and Sindh floods. Entire villages are inundated but elderly, sick and children are able to leave. Only those stay which choose to stay.

TTP launches massive propaganda war to attract recruits and defame Pak Military. They have been claiming that their families are in Military custody but not so that their families are getting killed in aerial strikes. They in fact would like civilians to get killed for their propaganda as they have no regard for innocent life. But you don't see anything solid like videos coming out. Why? There have been videos where they are firing on our aircraft and helicopters. If they can make these videos, why can't they make videos of civilians killed in our strikes when the attack is over?

Don't fall prey to baseless propaganda. Media blackout is for a good reason. Media has been trying to malign them for very long time. They have an art of twisting the facts and airing fake interviews. So PA decided to keep them out because they will try to reduce support of common people by fake campaigns. There are a lot of wrongs in Pakistan, do you see them reporting it truly?

If you think, you will know how we are fighting on multiple fronts. Some openly and some secretively. It is time to unite as one nation and have faith in our forces.

 

[Bomber]

Why would a 2.2 dollar trillion economy would polish boot of a Lulla? Are you Insane? If India wants India can throw money to your parliamentarians and rig the elections. We have enough capital for that.. We don't go to useless people.



I was discussing internal politics with them. And the effect of war, which is uprooting peace in the region.

Your whole History is covered wit polishing boots .... First you Polished boots of Mughals and gave in marriage many of your rajput ladies coz you people can do anything in politics ...........than you polished boots of Britishers .....and now you are polishing boots of TTB and ISRAEL , USA ...

Indian members, please follow this link if you dare to face the truth!

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/2...rs-who-kill-and-rape-civilians.html?referrer=

hahahaha that is the reality which the indians want to hide ...

Google it. It's on the net unlike your Zarb e Azab in NW where no one knows what the heck is actually going on except the info peddled by your propaganda machine - the ISPR.

Secondly, very few civilians have been killed in the places you have mentioned due to collateral damage. Those killed were Maoists, terrorists who are now on the run with most of their top rung either killed or captured. No prizes for guessing who is supporting them with arms and ammo.

The info is Classified people like you will never find it .........it is not india that you would google it and boooooom you would find it ... We dont share it with others specially with indians ......... modi is a metal head he is already draging india into war ..... you need to fix him before it is tooo late ...... coz he need surgery ...

 

[waleed3601]

Don't be stupid. India didn't build all your markets and streets in NW that have been now destroyed to smithereens by PA's artillery barrages, rocket launchers, mortars, tank fire and air to ground missiles.

I wonder who is going to pay for all the destruction caused by the army and air force? And what about civilian casualties? The ISPR trumpets 2000 (wow!) militants killed, but there's a deafening silence on the number of innocent civilians killed. Why the censorship? Like all over the world, why isn't the independent media allowed to cover the operation? What's there to hide?

u wot m8?
First off, there are zero or minimum civilian casualties because all/most of them were evacuated before the operation began (over 1 million IDPs were registered from N. Waziristan and few lakhs from Khyber Agency). Camps with proper food supplies, water and sanitation and monthly allowance from govt were specifically arranged for these people. All the ones left behind are terrorists so indiscriminate bombing is completely fine.
And with regards to reconstruction, the Army is using it's funds and the Govt using it's funds (and concessions from WB) have split the work for the rehabilitation process which is already under way.
When the Army began this operation they said there are 3 stages to this :
1. Elimination of terrorists and establishment of writ of state
2. Reconstruction and Rehabilitation of all affected Areas (I think it's called the North Waziristan Urban Development program or something I don't remember)
3. Return to normalcy with all IDPs being brought back from their camps

 

[EL LOBO]

PAF bomb their houses, if there are civilians in the houses thats their fault...they were given notice weeks before the OP started...and we would like to turn NW to gaza to eleminate terrorism if we have to....koi shak??

 

[Screambowl]

Your whole History is covered wit polishing boots .... First you Polished boots of Mughals and gave in marriage many of your rajput ladies coz you people can do anything in politics ...........than you polished boots of Britishers .....and now you are polishing boots of TTB and ISRAEL , USA ...
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Akalamand, during battle of Panipat against Abdali, the general of Maratha army was a Muslim, who was taken as POW and executed.

3rd Guru of sikh helped cousin of Aurangzeb to fled from capture by Mughal army.

Babur made plans with Rana Sanga to remove Turks from Delhi

Tipu sultan was killed by marathas and helper was Nawab of Hyderabad.

kon si gulami kahan ki gulami kisi ki ghulami .. hahaha. You need to brush your knowledge. And if we were Ghulam, then what pakistanis are? Rulers? lol.. F*ckin Bull*hit

 

[Areesh]

People who live with guns die with guns goes the proverb. TTP was created by ISI. Even now also there r TTP sysmpathaziers in your army,yr parliament. It will be a uphill task to elminate TTP.

Bold part shows you have no idea about this topic and it's past and hence totally immature, illiterate and unsuitable to talk about this topic. Better go and post something useful on Stupid and Funny from all over the world thread than wasting your and more importantly our time here..

Uzbeks who fight under the banner of taimur lung's Islamic glory. They still care.

F*ck them. Our F16 don't care about any Uzbek or any Taimur Lung.

 

[Screambowl]

Bhai you know very well what is uprooting the peace. All you are ending up doing is making yourself look like tellybunny supporter and making the Pakistani posters paranoid about why are Indians in this thread.
They are not going to see how they are creating the next problem.
Let that be the case, why you are trying to make more knowledgeable those who think of you as enemy.
Let Pakistani people settle this between themselves.

That region comes under stabilization only when it us under the rule of some one in present day Bharat. This is the hard written truth.

 

[Neutron]

PAF bombing homes ( hide outs) of militants. Killing militants is justified thats why PAF bombing in waziristan is justified as well. Meanwhile selection of targets should be precise enough to minimise the collateral damage. Afterall killing of non combatants , women and children is not justified.

 

[Shot-Caller]

well the TTP will retaliate not with words but with suicide bombing, & destruction

Yea I'm sure you're hoping for that to happen.

Our country has been electing useless money makers for a very long time, I see. First of all your country is a bloody mess,yr leaders r travelling in a rudderless ship. On the economic front too Pakistan has done very badly. Right from 1947,the military has ruled for the most of time(Ayub Khan,Yahaya Khan,Zia Ul Haq,Mushraff).About coming out of the phase as written by you,easier said then done. Pakistan is caught in a terrible quagmire.

Really? I didn't know.

Don't be stupid. India didn't build all your markets and streets in NW that have been now destroyed to smithereens by PA's artillery barrages, rocket launchers, mortars, tank fire and air to ground missiles.

I wonder who is going to pay for all the destruction caused by the army and air force? And what about civilian casualties? The ISPR trumpets 2000 (wow!) militants killed, but there's a deafening silence on the number of innocent civilians killed. Why the censorship? Like all over the world, why isn't the independent media allowed to cover the operation? What's there to hide?

The ones you call innocent civillians, we call them TTP. The more they die, the more satisfaction we get. As far as covering zarb-e-azb is concerned, there have been many shows about it with army personnel right from waziristan so stop imagining things.

 

[Screambowl]

PAF bomb their houses, if there are civilians in the houses thats their fault...they were given notice weeks before the OP started...and we would like to turn NW to gaza to eleminate terrorism if we have to....koi shak??

there should be a warning shot in that case.

 

[RescueRanger]

January 16, 5:36pm
Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major General Asim Saleem Bajwa said security forces have killed 2,000 militants in North Waziristan so far, Radio Pakistan reported on Friday.
Read here for the full story.

 

[greatone]

A country's air force bombing its own civilian's homes is justified...
Seriously, is that the topic of public debate in Pakistan these days ?

That is a very sad state of affairs.

 

[VCheng]

January 16, 5:36pm
Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major General Asim Saleem Bajwa said security forces have killed 2,000 militants in North Waziristan so far, Radio Pakistan reported on Friday.
Read here for the full story.

With 100% accuracy, of course. Of course.