PAF and The Case for Eurofighter Typhoon

[Blue Marlin]

why tranch 1 useless they should be still as good as block 52?

i think the current focus would still remain on getting the block 3 with western avionics and getting them in enough numbers

there old and were considering scrapping them to save money and possibly replace them with 3b's

 

[Zarvan]

So we do have plans, either a EF or SU-35?

Yes and soon we would hear something about it. PAF chiefing meeting with Ishaq Dar few days ago and now his visit to Italy they are not just random meetings they are all connected to each other

 

[tarrar]

Eurofighter is a possibility from Italy as compared to SU35 which seems unlikely.

 

[tarrar]

This visit by Air Marshal is going to be interesting.

 

[Zain Malik]

MLU wil work....

there old and were considering scrapping them to save money and possibly replace them with 3b's

 

[New World]

why tranch 1 useless they should be still as good as block 52?

i think the current focus would still remain on getting the block 3 with western avionics and getting them in enough numbers

I think trench 1 is interceptor, trench 2 is Air-Superiority and trench 3 is multirole.
@Blue Marlin @mike2000 is back @Windjammer

 

[FunkyGen]

Euro Fighter will be agood answer to rafale.
True 4.5 gen fighter.
But tge problem is only no announcement has yet made from any sides.
Let's see what happens.
Can some body inform the tenure od ACM visit.

Seriously i also thought it as Indian Airforce first and was little bit confused then realized its Italy

I propose we should sell JF 17 block 3 with European engines to the IAF

On a serious note, i believe junk of our money should be given to JF program and its infrastructure and if there are any additional funds only then should we consider the typhoons.
The JF true potential lies in giving us the capability to produce advanced variants of it in house with incorporation of tech. from third party European vendors thus generating exports... maximum effort should be put into creating economies of scale...

Israeli Air Force.

Mashallah, what a halal comment Sir Jee...

 

[Zain Malik]

I propose we should sell JF 17 block 3 with European engines to the IAF

On a serious note, i believe junk of our money should be given to JF program and its infrastructure and if there are any additional funds only then should we consider the typhoons.
The JF true potential lies in giving us the capability to produce advanced variants of it in house with incorporation of tech. from third party European vendors thus generating exports... maximum effort should be put into creating economies of scale...

JFT for sure is future shining star specially block 3.
BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME BROTHER TILL THEN WE HAVE FILL GAP FOR ALARMING INCREASE OF TECHNOLOGY IN NEIGHBOURHOOD.
EFT WILL FILL THAT GAP AND WILL BE FULLY ADVANCE WITH AVIONICS AND MLUs

 

[monitor]

ACM Sohail Aman has visited Italy where he was given Guard Of Honour.
Is there any possibility of purchasing Tranche 1/2 aircrafts from Italy. .??

Yes there are chances. PAF told senate these two names EuroFighter and SU-35 one of them would come.

MUCH MUCH more realistic (used/old Tranche 1/2) than the new Typoons or the SU35s as many have been speculating. Comparatively that is!! AND Theoretically speaking!
Italy have around 4 squadrons of Tranche 1/2 (around 75 planes)

@araz sir?

Giving guard of honour is just protocol anyone of that level will get ,not proof of offering anything .

for some month huge uproar SU-35 is coming Russia divorcing their long time wife but at the end nothing happened .
at the end we may see again US showing mercy on Pakistan and selling some F-16 .

 

[FunkyGen]

JFT for sure is future shining star specially block 3.
BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME BROTHER TILL THEN WE HAVE FILL GAP FOR ALARMING INCREASE OF TECHNOLOGY IN NEIGHBOURHOOD.
EFT WILL FILL THAT GAP AND WILL BE FULLY ADVANCE WITH AVIONICS AND MLUs

My take is that even if we order the typhoon it will take several years to induct the platform... lets say 2 (even though it will take much longer)... JFTs we can roll out 16 (now being increased to 24) a year...

Now, i do have a few doubts over the JF and its performance regarding air combat as it doesn't seem to have much data available on that... comparing it with indian jets it is merely reduced to a point defence fighter, which isn't that helpful so if we can change that with the blk 3 i am in favor of JF, if we can't then needless to say we are in big trouble with the rafale induction.

 

[Zain Malik]

I have said earlier that it was NEWS channel showing.
The guard of honour has nothing to do with deal .
Dont know why you people consider it in another way.

Giving guard of honour is just protocol anyone of that level will get ,not proof of offering anything .

for some month huge uproar SU-35 is coming Russia divorcing their long time wife but at the end nothing happened .
at the end we may see again US showing mercy on Pakistan and selling some F-16 .

My take is that even if we order the typhoon it will take several years to induct the platform... lets say 2 (even though it will take much longer)... JFTs we can roll out 16 (now being increased to 24) a year...

Now, i do have a few doubts over the JF and its performance regarding air combat as it doesn't seem to have much data available on that... comparing it with indian jets it is merely reduced to a point defence fighter, which isn't that helpful so if we can change that with the blk 3 i am in favor of JF, if we can't then needless to say we are in big trouble with the rafale induction.

Didnt got your point "point defence fighter" elaborate plz, i will explain what you want.

 

[FunkyGen]

Didnt got your point "point defence fighter" elaborate plz, i will explain what you want.

Its not long range... cant venture into enemy territory to fight aerial battles... it can only intercept indian su 30s and probably scare them away... indians have atm, air superiority platforms in large numbers...

 

[Hassan Guy]

ACM Sohail Aman has visited Italy where he was given Guard Of Honour.
Is there any possibility of purchasing Tranche 1/2 aircrafts from Italy. .??

Why Tranche 1/2??? Tranche 3 is already out.

 

[ziaulislam]

there old and were considering scrapping them to save money and possibly replace them with 3b's

there are not yet more than 12 years old

 

[Zain Malik]

Its not long range... cant venture into enemy territory to fight aerial battles... it can only intercept indian su 30s and probably scare them away... indians have atm, air superiority platforms in large numbers...

Yes JFT hs no long to to strike deep in the enimie's territory.
But block 3 will have a significant structural change in shaPe and engine power will be incresses upto 10 percent along with increase in payload from 3 tons to 4.5 tons and a high air superiority role.
To extent rafale matters JFT is unable to handle it wwith present blocks.
But i cannot say something about block 3. But i know that it will matchless of its class. It will be superior than Gripen, F16, and tje hornet.
For rafale we should look for 4++ gen option . IF NO THEN IMMEDIATELY JUMP TO 5TH GEN PLATFORM.

Why Tranche 1/2??? Tranche 3 is already out.

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