Over 2000 years of economic history, in one chart

[terranMarine]

Because you can't accept the fact that India is as old and great a civilization as the chinese,and was in the golden period a hub of world manufacturing -particularly textiles,jewellery and high quality steel,as well as diamonds and spices.Most chinese posters(not all) here are driven by middle kingdom mentality which presupposes china as the one great civilization of asia and the rest,barbarians.

No Chinese would accept the fact that there was a civilization as great as China in Asia. Ancient China has invented a lot more than the Indus region. No disrespect to Pakistan and Indian members. Indus region can be proud of their textiles, jewellery and manufactured products. The issue we are having is that Indians tend to steal Pakistan's accomplishments and treat it as their own. What you guys see is that the different Indus region GDP should be combined and make up as India's ancient GDP as a whole. It is called whipping out Pakistan's history.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

No Chinese would accept the fact that there was a civilization as great as China in Asia.

Similarly,no Indian will ever accept Chinese civilization as superior to ours.Sinocentrism and middle kingdom mentality has zero effect on us.Try it on your smaller neighbours.As for the 2nd part of your reply,i could reply but it would hurt the passionate sentiments of many pakistani members here so i will refrain from doing so.

 

[Georg]

this chart cant be right...

1th century AD The Roman Empire had 30% of the gloabal GDP and totaly dominate world trade....
there was no Italy France Germany USA UK .... Europe was more or less the Roman Empire


Examples
in the first century AD Roman Empire was ligthyears ahead in iron production to the rest of the world....

The Roman Empire throw out per annum 82.500to iron compare that to the little 5.000to Han China was able to produce per annum.
Roman had a estimated 10.000to silver with a yearly production of 200to... that is10 times MORE than combinate medival Europe and Claiphate 800AD together.
Roman Empire also was the largest preindustrial Lead and Copper producer ... after a Roman peak in 1century AD it took till the 18th century till the Roman numbers were reached again.

in 1950 the USA had 50% of the global GDP.

 

[vostok]

this chart cant be right...

1th century AD The Roman Empire had 30% of the gloabal GDP and totaly dominate world trade....
there was no Italy France Germany USA UK .... Europe was more or less the Roman Empire


Examples
in the first century AD Roman Empire was ligthyears ahead in iron production to the rest of the world....

The Roman Empire throw out per annum 82.500to iron compare that to the little 5.000to Han China was able to produce per annum.
Roman had a estimated 10.000to silver with a yearly production of 200to... that is10 times MORE than combinate medival Europe and Claiphate 800AD together.
Roman Empire also was the largest preindustrial Lead and Copper producer ... after a Roman peak in 1century AD it took till the 18th century till the Roman numbers were reached again.

in 1950 the USA had 50% of the global GDP.

Can you give the sources, please?

 

[313ghazi]

This chart should be shown to every brown sahib who toots on about "what the British did for us".

 

[Georg]

Can you give the sources, please?

http://fortune.com/2014/10/05/most-powerful-economic-empires-of-all-time/

 

[武成王]

This chart apparently make no sense, we can not accurately figure out GDP in the past 200 years, let alone thousand years ago. However, it make sense in that Ancient China and India(include Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, probably include southern part of Afghanistan) are known for wealth which inspire European to find alternate trade route to east to escape heavy tax imposed by Persia and later Islamic Empires. I have to point out that ancient Persian (primarily by land) and Arab (primarily by sea) made great contribution to the prosperity of ancient silk road, they also accumulated unbelievable wealth by international trade activities.

The blue pigment of the above porcelain was from Iraq Samarra, during 14th-15th centuries, they were transported to China by Arab and Persia merchants, Chinese porcelain workshops manufactured porcelains on customer provided patterns, this is probably the earliest, large scale ODM. Chinese porcelain workshops already employed assembly line in manufacturing porcelain, this is probably the earliest, large scale assembly line known in history.

 

[LeGenD]

No Chinese would accept the fact that there was a civilization as great as China in Asia. Ancient China has invented a lot more than the Indus region. No disrespect to Pakistan and Indian members. Indus region can be proud of their textiles, jewellery and manufactured products. The issue we are having is that Indians tend to steal Pakistan's accomplishments and treat it as their own. What you guys see is that the different Indus region GDP should be combined and make up as India's ancient GDP as a whole. It is called whipping out Pakistan's history.

Persians say hello.

Han Dynasty; Indus Valley Civilization; and Achaemenid Empire - each very impressive in its own right.

Han Dynasty and Archaemenid Empire are standouts in particular because they were not only advanced in the matters of building a civilization but demonstrated impressive military capability, exploration capacity and able to influence their surroundings in profound ways.

 

[Mista]

http://fortune.com/2014/10/05/most-powerful-economic-empires-of-all-time/

There is also evidence that the Romans had a sophisticated financial system that made extensive use of bank notes

LOL. Whitewashing of history.

The concept of banknotes came from China. How did Rome use banknotes when they didn't even have paper or printing?

It was recorded that each year before 1101 AD, the prefecture of Xinan (modern Xi-xian, Anhui) alone would send 1,500,000 sheets of paper in seven different varieties to the capital at Kaifeng.[68]In that year of 1101, the Emperor Huizong of Songdecided to lessen the amount of paper taken in the tribute quota, because it was causing detrimental effects and creating heavy burdens on the people of the region.[69] However, the government still needed masses of paper product for the exchange certificates and the state's new issuing of paper money. For the printing of paper money alone, the Song court established several government-run factories in the cities of Huizhou, Chengdu, Hangzhou, and Anqi.[69] The size of the workforce employed in these paper money factories were quite large, as it was recorded in 1175 AD that the factory at Hangzhou alone employed more than a thousand workers a day.

The first recorded use of paper money was in the 7th century in China. However, the practice did not become widespread in Europe for nearly a thousand years.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/about/history.aspx

When China had a system of money printing and made use of innovative methods to prevent counterfeit notes, Europe was still busy minting coins to facilitate trade until almost a thousand years later. Did the Roman empire still exist then?

 

[Georg]

This chart apparently make no sense, we can not accurately figure out GDP in the past 200 years, let alone thousand years ago. However, it make sense in that Ancient China and India(include Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, probably include southern part of Afghanistan) are known for wealth which inspire European to find alternate trade route to east to escape heavy tax imposed by Persia and later Islamic Empires. I have to point out that ancient Persian (primarily by land) and Arab (primarily by sea) made great contribution to the prosperity of ancient silk road, they also accumulated unbelievable wealth by international trade activities.

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The blue pigment of the above porcelain was from Iraq Samarra, during 14th-15th centuries, they were transported to China by Arab and Persia merchants, Chinese porcelain workshops manufactured porcelains on customer provided patterns, this is probably the earliest, large scale ODM. Chinese porcelain workshops already employed assembly line in manufacturing porcelain, this is probably the earliest, large scale assembly line known in history.

Have to lol about this comment...

You know that they unearth Roman green Glass in Han Dynasty tomb...the glass is dated 1centeruy BC and was from mass production... Roman trade spread all over the world.

The first human mass production line were set up in the Roman Empire to produce Terra Sigillata (fine red ancient roman pottery with glossy surface), they found factorys were they had klins to fire up 30.000 to 40.000 tableware at 1000°C in one shift... and that in the 1century AD .... almost 14centurys earlyer...