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Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

Is Martial Law/Emergency a real possibility after IK arrest?

  • Yes

    Votes: 145 63.6%
  • No

    Votes: 83 36.4%

  • Total voters
    228
  • Poll closed .
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This is Khan's soldiers who have been given consciousness by Khan...

None of the captain's players have been arrested for corruption, all have been arrested for telling the truth and this is the captain's victory....


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Very sound analysis

Decent analysis. People forget that Raheel Shareef had issues with Nawaz Sharif regarding foreign policy and internal issue, it was all over the news. Then Imran Khan came as a pro military leader and he too faced the same issue. Before coming to power he has always been anti PmlN and PPP so it was nothing new, he always spoke against the corrupt and wanted reforms.

The major issues were disagreements regarding foreign policy, relations, internal security. The establishment strongly disagree with an aggressive foreign policy, they rather stay quiet on international issues than making comments on international platforms, this is to avoid upsetting major powers in the west and middleeast. Looking at Azerbaijan v Armenia war, Pakistan never made any comments about supporting Azerbaijan, they stayed quiet, only Azerbaijan was thanking Pakistan for its support.

Malaysian summit where IK was forced not to attend, this was a big embarrassment to IK, on top Shah Mahmood Qureshi was making comments on creating another Muslim Block but after getting danda from Saudi Arabia Pakistan establishment chickened out. Behind the scenes IK must have made big noise because he's Pakistan Nationalist leader, not some chamcha. What is the crime for making another block, this doesn't mean it will be a threat to OIC. It was just slave v master mentality, Saudi showed who was the boss, Usa also shares the same opinion.

Another disagreement was improving relations with Iran, IK wanted to improve relations with all neighbouring nations but Saudi Arabia would never allow their slave state to do it. The same Saudi Arabia is now hugging Iran and doesn't care about Pakistani opinion. Usa also had the same opinion.

Russia war was another major disagreement, the army wanted to stay quiet or pass resolutions against Russia under Usa pressure but not make too much comments. Imran Khan clearly mentioned Pakistan is neutral and then talked about Iraq, Afghanistan wars. This must have hurt the west and establishment must have complained to IK.

If we look at Pakistan history, Pakistan is normally quiet on international issues, Imran Khan was talking about Palestine, Yemen war, he advised Saudi Arabia to stop the war, the Saudis must have been frustrated behind the scenes, Pakistan was quiet on Iraq, Afghan, Syrian, Libyan wars.

This is the major reason Pakistan army took away their hand from PTI and PDM did the rest, Imran then lost the majority in the parliament and was toppled. We cannot 100% say establishment removed him because PDM did have the majority, even PDM must have been making life hell for establishment.

Only after 1 year a heavy crackdown took place against PTI and IK, the SJ advised all parties to sit together and agree on election date but PDM insisted on October 2023 date and IK wanted it ASAP. The country is going down the gutter, political instability is high, corruption is high, security situation is not good, Imran Khan also continued to attack the army and generals for betrayal. Social media is enough proof.

Imran Khan was correct on his international policies but can we all accept the consequences, would Pakistan have survived with Saudia and Arab States sending back millions of Pakistan workers, west stopping remittance, maybe frozen accounts, I am sure our military has billions invested in these countries.

Would our friendly states such as China, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Central Asia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Qatar accommodated Pakistan losses. Most of these states are democracies and the next government could be anti immigration.

I always mentioned, the Pakistani governments and establishment need to come to an agreement regarding foreign policy, international relations, security and then move forward. Bring in major reforms and make Pakistan a welfare state, justice for all, bring stability. Were still stuck in the 1990s.
 
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Wajahat S. Khan
@WajSKhan
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I’m leaving the PTI And joining the Pakistan Army
My Long Course at PMA starts next month
I will graduate in two years
I will be COAS in 34 years
I will declare Martial Law on my first day in power
I will save Pakistan from India, US, Israel and Youthias
I love nukes
 
Decent analysis. People forget that Raheel Shareef had issues with Nawaz Sharif regarding foreign policy and internal issue, it was all over the news. Then Imran Khan came as a pro military leader and he too faced the same issue. Before coming to power he has always been anti PmlN and PPP so it was nothing new, he always spoke against the corrupt and wanted reforms.

The major issues were disagreements regarding foreign policy, relations, internal security. The establishment strongly disagree with an aggressive foreign policy, they rather stay quiet on international issues than making comments on international platforms, this is to avoid upsetting major powers in the west and middleeast. Looking at Azerbaijan v Armenia war, Pakistan never made any comments about supporting Azerbaijan, they stayed quiet, only Azerbaijan was thanking Pakistan for its support.

Malaysian summit where IK was forced not to attend, this was a big embarrassment to IK, on top Shah Mahmood Qureshi was making comments on creating another Muslim Block but after getting danda from Saudi Arabia Pakistan establishment chickened out. Behind the scenes IK must have made big noise because he's Pakistan Nationalist leader, not some chamcha. What is the crime for making another block, this doesn't mean it will be a threat to OIC. It was just slave v master mentality, Saudi showed who was the boss, Usa also shares the same opinion.

Another disagreement was improving relations with Iran, IK wanted to improve relations with all neighbouring nations but Saudi Arabia would never allow their slave state to do it. The same Saudi Arabia is now hugging Iran and doesn't care about Pakistani opinion. Usa also had the same opinion.

Russia war was another major disagreement, the army wanted to stay quiet or pass resolutions against Russia under Usa pressure but not make too much comments. Imran Khan clearly mentioned Pakistan is neutral and then talked about Iraq, Afghanistan wars. This must have hurt the west and establishment must have complained to IK.

If we look at Pakistan history, Pakistan is normally quiet on international issues, Imran Khan was talking about Palestine, Yemen war, he advised Saudi Arabia to stop the war, the Saudis must have been frustrated behind the scenes, Pakistan was quiet on Iraq, Afghan, Syrian, Libyan wars.

This is the major reason Pakistan army took away their hand from PTI and PDM did the rest, Imran then lost the majority in the parliament and was toppled. We cannot 100% say establishment removed him because PDM did have the majority, even PDM must have been making life hell for establishment.

Only after 1 year a heavy crackdown took place against PTI and IK, the SJ advised all parties to sit together and agree on election date but PDM insisted on October 2023 date and IK wanted it ASAP. The country is going down the gutter, political instability is high, corruption is high, security situation is not good, Imran Khan also continued to attack the army and generals for betrayal. Social media is enough proof.

Imran Khan was correct on his international policies but can we all accept the consequences, would Pakistan have survived with Saudia and Arab States sending back millions of Pakistan workers, west stopping remittance, maybe frozen accounts, I am sure our military has billions invested in these countries.

Would our friendly states such as China, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Central Asia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Qatar accommodated Pakistan losses. Most of these states are democracies and the next government could be anti immigration.

I always mentioned, the Pakistani governments and establishment need to come to an agreement regarding foreign policy, international relations, security and then move forward. Bring in major reforms and make Pakistan a welfare state, justice for all, bring stability. Were still stuck in the 1990s.

Ik lost his seat and his party (for now)
Khaki lost morality and public support forever.
Pdm gained by exposing khaki and by getting green chit legally.

Pak as a country lost as being at least somewhat functional to becoming lawless wild South.
 
Ik lost his seat and his party (for now)
Khaki lost morality and public support forever.
Pdm gained by exposing khaki and by getting green chit legally.

Pak as a country lost as being at least somewhat functional to becoming lawless wild South.

Its unfortunate and heartbreaking. We wanted a Pakistan nationalist party in power, who cares about Pakistan and Pakistanis, who wanted to make major reforms so our people can get justice, accountability of the dacoits, better policies, better education, make pro Pakistan policies, make independent powerful EC, independent Institutes, show the world were not cowards and 3rd class people.

Realistically if Imran Khan changed the mindset of the Pakistani public then nothing can stop Imran Khan from coming back to power. But if the public were only screaming naya Pakistan just for the sake of it then its a lost cause. You cannot eliminate an ideology unless you counter is with a better one.

How long will the crackdown continue? illegal arrests continue? Torture continue? Like brother @Meengla mentioned, Imran Khan and PTI will go down for 3 to 5 years but then can make a comeback if they play their cards correctly.

From the people I know, the majority of people who supported Pti were never in to politics. Its unfortunate they have lost their love for Pak army and Pakistan.

It makes me feel like how our elders lost interest in politics when Pakistan was divided during their time, they simply gave up and accepted that Pakistan is a loss cause, they were correct aswell. The next generation is us people, who had their hopes high for a decade and now the hope is down the dustbin. I highly doubt we would vote for any other party and will just consider politics as time pass and nothing serious. Literally just give up.

When I joined PDF, we all wanted reforms and nationalist political party, who will stand up for Pakistan but after 2 decades were back to square one. It feels like a game was planned, to give hope and then destroy it, to make us all apolitical so the elite can continue to loot.

I am not talking about PTI but we all want a party who will make reforms, protect and promote Pakistan interests, we want new educated faces, people who will bring a change.

Imagine in 10 years our children looking up to Bilawal Zardari and Maryam Nawaz, the leaders of the youth, both playing the same politics done by their fathers.
 
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There is now a consensus specially in the newer generation that the power of army has to be cut down in state affairs and completely eliminated in politics.

The humiliation they are meting out is being taken personally. Their respect is not more sacred than that of the people of Pakistan. The sanctity of citizens’ homes are a hundred times then your monuments and offices.
 
There is now a consensus specially in the newer generation that the power of army has to be cut down in state affairs and completely eliminated in politics.

The humiliation they are meting out is being taken personally. Their respect is not more sacred than that of the people of Pakistan. The sanctity of citizens’ homes are a hundred times then your monuments and offices.
Family member of mine - young guy, son of distinguished retd Naval Commodore was only holding a placard with his mother. Picked up, tortured (made naked, beaten, electrocuted) for 4 hours and then was being shipped off to Larkana Jail for execution until a former naval chief intervened.

I let a US senator I met recently see his photos - these men are naked now in front of their own masters.
 

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