Our army didn't intrude into Ladakh: China

[Jackdaws]

Not true. Ancient Egypt existed as dynasties from 3000BC to 20 BC for 3000 years. So an ancient Egyptian kingdom state existed as a singular unit for almost 3000 years with few disruption. China also has an continuous empire for over 2000 years. India has various kingdoms in the subcontinent and was not unified except for maybe 150 years back in 200BC. So India has many kingdoms just like Western Europe. So Western Europe has the western civilization. India has the Indian civilization. But Indian civilization was unified by the British into a nation state. Western Europe didn't have this fortunate event so they are still trying to come together.

LOL - What nonsense. Egypt was a civilization, not a nation-state. And China also had numerous kingdoms at various periods - I had read about the 16 kingdoms of China and then again about Ten Kingdoms - perhaps some Chinese member can shed some light on it. Even during the British rule, 1/3rd of present day India was independent semi-autonomous "princely states".

What does China achieve by funny tricks like incursion and instant retreat or Chinese claimed map on passport or sending fishing boats to Senkakus.

Just attention seeking tactics - if the Politburo could, they would gyrate China's hips to Gangnam style if they thought it would get them some attention from the world.

 

[kawaraj]

Since China is making Pakistan as it's colony slowly some Pakistanis often feels like a Chinese national so expect their "we" as Chinese POV.

We are allies if your are capable of ubderstanding civilized world language stop trolling.

Any conflict between India and China means we are also "in".

Since China is making Pakistan as it's colony slowly some Pakistanis often feels like a Chinese national so expect their "we" as Chinese POV.

We are allies if your are capable of ubderstanding civilized world language stop trolling.

Any conflict between India and China means we are also "in".

 

[HongWu]

China's forward policy! Let's see if Indians are so meek they won't even attack us!

 

[GoodBoy]

We are allies if your are capable of ubderstanding civilized world language stop trolling.

Any conflict between India and China means we are also "in".


We are allies if your are capable of ubderstanding civilized world language stop trolling.

Any conflict between India and China means we are also "in".

You are TROLLING with double posts and not me.

btw seems like you like being an "ALLY" so much.You love being allies so much even it means being a colony. The ALLIES which can drone and bomb you at will anytime anywhere and you can only "protest".

China's forward policy! Let's see if Indians are so meek they won't even attack us!

Mr HuangPoo...what happened when Arunachal Pradesh which you claim accepted coming to India ???

Your mighty mouse PLA could not do anything at all.

 

[HongWu]

Once India loses a major war against China many states including the Northeast will secede.

 

[asad71]

1.What I gather from the array of Indian media is that a platoon of 30 Chinese border guards had pitched bivouacs inside what they claim to be their territory. Chinese media is quite silent on this matter. Usually there are no people living here or even passing through. The nearest village is 100 km away. The Indian border post nearby fled in fear seeing the Chinese and imagining that this was a general attack like 1962.

2.In panic IA has now deployed one battalion of ITBP. China hasn't reinforced its platoon.

 

[third eye]

1.What I gather from the array of Indian media is that a platoon of 30 Chinese border guards had pitched bivouacs inside what they claim to be their territory. Chinese media is quite silent on this matter. Usually there are no people living here or even passing through. The nearest village is 100 km away. The Indian border post nearby fled in fear seeing the Chinese and imagining that this was a general attack like 1962.

2.In panic IA has now deployed one battalion of ITBP. China hasn't reinforced its platoon.

Sorry but your ' gathering ' ability is low & appears to be biased towards appeasing the Chinese.

Where have you picked up the underlined part from ? Is it the usual BD mind in overdrive ?

What the media says is that an ITBP ( who are the border guards in the region) have set up camp close to the Chinese. An Indian Infantry Battalion has been kept on standby. It would be militarily sound to surmise the Chinese too have reserves at hand.

Being a former fauji you would know & realise that Border Guards do not have reserves of the size of a Battalion which can be moved at will.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

It would be good if Chinese and Indian troops on the borders agree to disarm and carry no weapons so that disputes can be settled with friendly non lethal fist fights and brawls. HA

We can send Jackie Chan and they can send these guys...

 

[Areesh]

The question here is,

Is China ready to commit more than 10 lakh soldiers on cold Himalayan peaks with minimum logistics, that too in Guerilla war fare?

. If yes they can do their incursions into our borders.

The bigger question is that whether you will go for armed conflict with China. I don't think so.

So they don't need 10 lakh soldiers. Flag meetings however would bring down escalation. It is all up to China whether they go back or not. You can't do much on this.

 

[faithfulguy]

There are no rules for a country to exist, stop your one country china thing.

If you are capable of uniting them under one name any thing is possible.

India was united under Maurya empire earlier than China, Most of the time China not the same as todays communist china. And todays CCP cannot claim imperial China.



Cheap tradesman mentality of Chinese was understood by you very well, But Indians do not play according to Chinese rules. This termite behavior may work in SCS or east sea but not in Himalayas.

CCP is the succession of ROC, which moved to Taiwan. ROC succeeded Qing dynasty, which succeeded Ming, which succeeded Yuan, which succeeded Song, which succeeded a fragment of little states that existed for 80 years between Tang and Song. In China in the last 2000 years, the country was mostly united. And at the time of fragmentation, each states would battle each other and one would claim as the legitimate government.

In recent Indian history, the Republic of India succeeded British India. And British India succeeded many little states, kingdoms and empires such as Maratha or Sihk empires. There was not a unified and agreed upon government that united India, and there was no Indian central government since the time of Mauya empire. That empire existed for only 150 years back in 300BCish and after the demise of that empire, no one empire claim as succeeding that empire after its disintegration. The fact is that many kingdoms and states were the natures form of government in India since then until Britain conquered Indian subcontinent and created India.

Another good analogy of India would be the "land of the Turks", "the Slavic people" or western Europe. The problems with them is that they are still fragmented but India is united. So be proud of that. But don't equate India as a empire through out history which is was not.

 

[Areesh]

You are TROLLING with double posts and not me.

btw seems like you like being an "ALLY" so much.You love being allies so much even it means being a colony. The ALLIES which can drone and bomb you at will anytime anywhere and you can only "protest".

By the way talking about being colony how are you feeling right now when you are sustaining a big trade deficit with China. You are giving them money and in return they are intruding in your territory.

It is even not about being colony. It is about being a ****** which you guys definitely are.

 

[faithfulguy]

LOL - What nonsense. Egypt was a civilization, not a nation-state. And China also had numerous kingdoms at various periods - I had read about the 16 kingdoms of China and then again about Ten Kingdoms - perhaps some Chinese member can shed some light on it. Even during the British rule, 1/3rd of present day India was independent semi-autonomous "princely states".

The upper and lower Egypt was united the most of time through out history, so it was a continuous empire through out its history from 3000BC to 20BC, the longest historical empire throughout time. Same with China through out last 2000 years. India is a land with many kingdom until British unified it. Sure, it has empires that united most of India today like Maurya or Moghul empire, but they are created for themselves, not a continuation of an India.

 

[Srinivas]

The bigger question is that whether you will go for armed conflict with China. I don't think so.

So they don't need 10 lakh soldiers. Flag meetings however would bring down escalation. It is all up to China whether they go back or not. You can't do much on this.

Nice assumption

 

[GoodBoy]

By the way talking about being colony how are you feeling right now when you are sustaining a big trade deficit with China. You are giving them money and in return they are intruding in your territory.

It is even not about being colony. It is about being a ****** which you guys definitely are.

Now you have started abusing me since you have LOST THE ARGUMENT.

You are a colony of US and China today.

 

[Srinivas]

CCP is the succession of ROC, which moved to Taiwan. ROC succeeded Qing dynasty, which succeeded Ming, which succeeded Yuan, which succeeded Song, which succeeded a fragment of little states that existed for 80 years between Tang and Song. In China in the last 2000 years, the country was mostly united. And at the time of fragmentation, each states would battle each other and one would claim as the legitimate government.

CCP cannot claim Imperial China simple as that.

In recent Indian history, the Republic of India succeeded British India. And British India succeeded many little states, kingdoms and empires such as Maratha or Sihk empires. There was not a unified and agreed upon government that united India, and there was no Indian central government since the time of Mauya empire. That empire existed for only 150 years back in 300BCish and after the demise of that empire, no one empire claim as succeeding that empire after its disintegration. The fact is that many kingdoms and states were the natures form of government in India since then until Britain conquered Indian subcontinent and created India.

India is there before China was united, The point here is Mughal India is a united one British only came and defeated Indian kingdoms when the central authority was weak.

Another good analogy of India would be the "land of the Turks", "the Slavic people" or western Europe. The problems with them is that they are still fragmented but India is united. So be proud of that. But don't equate India as a empire through out history which is was not.

By that logic Chinese should be ruled by Barbarian Mongols, and the emperor should be from Outer Mongolia. Its a shame that Chinese claim SCS and East sea based on Mongol Dynasty rule, which implies they want foreign rule better, remove CCP and put a decendent of Yuan mongoloid as your emperor and also worship him just like your ancient folks do.