Our army didn't intrude into Ladakh: China

[faithfulguy]

CCP cannot claim Imperial China simple as that.



India is there before China was united, The point here is Mughal India is a united one British only came and defeated Indian kingdoms when the central authority was weak.



By that logic Chinese should be ruled by Barbarian Mongols, and the emperor should be from Outer Mongolia. Its a shame that Chinese claim SCS and East sea based on Mongol Dynasty rule, which implies they want foreign rule better, remove CCP and put a decendent of Yuan mongoloid as your emperor and also worship him just like your ancient folks do.

First of all, you are not even at elementary level when in regard to Chinese history. CPC was continued from ROC and ROC inherited from Qing dynasty.

Mughal were invaders that replaced another previous invaders. These empires do not regard itself as a "successor" of the previous empires, but as an invader that replaced another empire. The British was just another invader after a long line of invaders.

 

[faithfulguy]

Whose passport is it?

The Indian empire passport reminded me that the first empress of India was queen Victoria. India gain lots while been created by the British empire. Including the identity of India.

I have seem most of the pakistani praying for india to break... Why is that... BTW HEYY no one will able to do it... No Declaration will on war will help.. ITS 65 YEARS NOW... WE WERE INTACT, WE ARE INTACT, AND WE WILL REMAIN.. INTACT

And you have the British to thank for that. Give credit where credit is due.

 

[rockstarIN]

PP of Jinnah

 

[INDIC]

First of all, you are not even at elementary level when in regard to Chinese history. CPC was continued from ROC and ROC inherited from Qing dynasty.

Mughal were invaders that replaced another previous invaders. These empires do not regard itself as a "successor" of the previous empires, but as an invader that replaced another empire. The British was just another invader after a long line of invaders.

Ming were the last indigenous Chinese dynasty.

 

[faithfulguy]

Ming were the last indigenous Chinese dynasty.

You are not up to date on Chinese history. The Manchu people are now indigenous of China.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Ladakh was a tributary state of China. Unfortunate, China was weak and in civil war back then, so it was invaded by British later.

There was no such a country called India at that time.

By that logic afghanistan, sri lanka and indonesia were also 'tributaries' of Indian kings.

 

[INDIC]

You are not up to date on Chinese history. The Manchu people are now indigenous of China.

They came as the foreigners.

 

[faithfulguy]

They came as the foreigners.

And at one time, Manchuria was controlled by the Ming. The Manchurians expelled the Ming and than take over China afterward.

 

[indian_foxhound]

The Indian empire passport reminded me that the first empress of India was queen Victoria. India gain lots while been created by the British empire. Including the identity of India.



And you have the British to thank for that. Give credit where credit is due.

Credit to british?? You are high dude. Remember divide and rule policy???
We are intact because of its people who believes in unity...

 

[faithfulguy]

Credit to british?? You are high dude. Remember divide and rule policy???
We are intact because of its people who believes in unity...

Yes, but first, India was join together by the British empire.

 

[INDIC]

And at one time, Manchuria was controlled by the Ming. The Manchurians expelled the Ming and than take over China afterward.

All games of imperialism. China was not a nation at that time. There is one India today but there are two Chinas today.

 

[indian_foxhound]

Yes, but first, India was join together by the British empire.

India is not same india which happen to be in british empire.... Dont pull up base less history.. Dont derail the thread. Be on topic

 

[INDIC]

Yes, but first, India was join together by the British empire.

British first made Marathas weak and then conquered India. You have no idea about how British conquer India. Tibet and Xinjiang were free till 1949 China need to conquer both of them, so in reality China didn't exist in these areas before 1949.

 

[faithfulguy]

All games of imperialism. China was not a nation at that time. There is one India today but there are two Chinas today.

China has one single government at the time. So it has a sense of one government, border and law. Now, China is not united. But both sides claims that itself is the legitimate government. This is the case when there are disputes when China is not united.

Indian subcontinent, on the other hand, was divided into many nation states prior to the British unification of India. None of these other states claims that all others are pretenders. Also, through out the history of Indian subcontinent, there were not a continuation of dynasties from one empire to another. But only of an empire that replace another while not claiming continuity.

British first made Marathas weak and then conquered India. You have no idea about how British conquer India. Tibet and Xinjiang were free till 1949 China need to conquer both of them, so in reality China didn't exist in these areas before 1949.

British first take over Bangal and gain the taxation rights there. The Mughals were weak at that time and the regional Nazams were in control.

So who did Mughals replaced? They didn't replaced any emperor but conquered India. So Mughal empire start a new empire that is not associate with the previous empire. British empire conquered a fragmented India has many regional warlords and empires. And India today is a continuation of British India.

 

[INDIC]

China has one single government at the time. So it has a sense of one government, border and law. Now, China is not united. But both sides claims that itself is the legitimate government. This is the case when there are disputes when China is not united.

Indian subcontinent, on the other hand, was divided into many nation states prior to the British unification of India. None of these other states claims that all others are pretenders. Also, through out the history of Indian subcontinent, there were not a continuation of dynasties from one empire to another. But only of an empire that replace another while not claiming continuity.



British first take over Bangal and gain the taxation rights there. The Mughals were weak at that time and the regional Nazams were in control.

So who did Mughals replaced? They didn't replaced any emperor but conquered India. So Mughal empire start a new empire that is not associate with the previous empire. British empire conquered a fragmented India has many regional warlords and empires. And India today is a continuation of British India.

Mughals were replaced by Marathas even Delhi fell to them although Mughal remained the Emperor of India. The taxation rights of Bihar, Bengal, Orissa was given by Mughal Monarch after the British defeated Nawab of Bengal in Battle of Buxar. Mughals hold this title till 1858, when last Mughal Emperor was exiled to Rangoon.

Throughout history, China never had a fixed border. Chinese national identity is based on Han Chauvinism. Tibet was not the part of Ming dynasty.

Qing never considered themselves Chinese,Last Qing Pu Yi even tried for Manchuquo with the help of Japanese.