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Gentleman i present you another Gem from DAWN.........
PAKISTAN is a unique country on many accounts. Ours is a confessional state, sharing a stage only with Israel amongst modern polities. We have an all-powerful army that is synonymous with the ‘ideology of Pakistan’. And we have long-standing enmities with two of our immediate neighbours, India and Afghanistan.8-)

It is an indicator of how peculiar the Pakistani psyche is that we have never truly reconciled to our geographical inheritance. Having insisted on carving out a country from the ruins of the British Raj, we then proceeded to engage ourselves in an unending quarrel with the folks next door, which in a strange way threw — and continues to throw — the whole project of Pakistani nationhood into doubt.:o:

But I will not digress. My concern in this column is with our Afghan ‘problem’— a festering wound that refuses to heal, despite the voices of sane people on both sides of the border, and indeed, the world.

The state has always treated ethnic Pakhtuns with suspicion.:-)
At the beginning I would like to clarify that the Western powers that are today apparently the biggest backers of peace between ourselves and the Afghans are anything but mutual well-wishers. Washington and its lackeys have waged war in the region for at least 40 years — in fact, 200 if one goes back to the days of the Russian and British empires.

Washington is now war-weary amidst recognition that Taliban remain as much a reality today as they did 14 years ago when the so-called war on terror first began. Its recent initiatives are acknowledgements of its failures, and should not be taken to mean that its obsession with strategic interests has given way to a genuine concern for the well-being of Afghanistan’s — and the region’s — people.

But what the Western powers have done — and continue to do — in our region cannot allow us to gloss over what we have done and continue to do. Perhaps most damningly, the Pakistani state has always treated the ethnic Pakhtuns within Pakistan as threats, who are viewed at best as suspicious, and at worst as agents of Kabul.:crazy:

That Pakistani Pakhtuns have an affinity with their brethren across the Durand Line is to be expected.:undecided: Is it not true that Punjabis separated by the partition of 1947 tend to realise that they have much more in common when they come into contact with one another than the respective states of India and Pakistan have led them to believe via doctored textbooks and sensationalist medias?:suicide:

Yes prominent Pakhtun nationalists have, since the time of partition, explicitly challenged the basis of Pakistani statehood. But then, many Pakhtuns have also ingratiated themselves with the Pakistani establishment by taking up positions within the middle and higher echelons of the civil and military bureaucracies, and a case can easily be made that highly mobile working and lower-middle class Pakhtuns have been integrated into Pakistan’s economy and society more than any other ethno-linguistic group in the country.

Yet it takes very little for us to tag Pakistani Pakhtuns with the ‘Afghan’ label and then criminalise them accordingly.:crazy_pilot:

The nameless Pakhtuns who live in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) are regularly branded as ‘terrorists’ and ‘miscreants’, usually after they have been killed by security forces in ‘counterterrorist’ operations.8-)
More often than not these defenceless thousands are said to be backed by Kabul.

The situation is bad in the black hole that is Fata but it is scarcely better in major urban centres. Pakhtun katchi abadis from Karachi to Lahore to Islamabad are regularly caricatured as havens of crime.
Racial profiling by the police is common and the poorer one is, the higher the chance of being harassed by state personnel in the name of ‘security’. The state’s general attitude spills over into society at large — as is evidenced by the many jokes that circulate about the ‘dumb Pathan’.:hitwall:

In recent times police and administrators have even been found warning property-owners not to rent rooms to Pakhtuns, acknowledged as Pakistani citizens, evicted from a katchi abadi in the capital.

For the record, it is bad enough when Afghans to whom we gave refuge when jihad was in fashion in the 1980s :pakistan:are scapegoated for the state’s failings, but for Pakistani Pakhtuns to be systematically disenfranchised and violated in urban centres in the country with the backing of a pliant media and dumbed-down urban middle class is outrageous.

I am not suggesting that we naively assume that neighbouring countries harbour only good intentions towards us:welcome:. But continuing to use the bogey of the ‘security threat’ to cultivate enmity with neighbouring countries, and then, worse still, criminalising Pakistani Pakhtuns under the guise of being ‘Afghan’ is unacceptable. Or at least it should be to many more of us than it is at present.

The writer teaches at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.
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The writer teaches at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.
Any name of that teacher or some anonymous person with special agendas pretending to be a teacher?
If he is indeed a Pakistani, then he must have been living under a rock all his life.
 
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Gentleman i present you another Gem from DAWN.........
PAKISTAN is a unique country on many accounts. Ours is a confessional state, sharing a stage only with Israel amongst modern polities. We have an all-powerful army that is synonymous with the ‘ideology of Pakistan’. And we have long-standing enmities with two of our immediate neighbours, India and Afghanistan.8-)

It is an indicator of how peculiar the Pakistani psyche is that we have never truly reconciled to our geographical inheritance. Having insisted on carving out a country from the ruins of the British Raj, we then proceeded to engage ourselves in an unending quarrel with the folks next door, which in a strange way threw — and continues to throw — the whole project of Pakistani nationhood into doubt.:o:

But I will not digress. My concern in this column is with our Afghan ‘problem’— a festering wound that refuses to heal, despite the voices of sane people on both sides of the border, and indeed, the world.

The state has always treated ethnic Pakhtuns with suspicion.:-)
At the beginning I would like to clarify that the Western powers that are today apparently the biggest backers of peace between ourselves and the Afghans are anything but mutual well-wishers. Washington and its lackeys have waged war in the region for at least 40 years — in fact, 200 if one goes back to the days of the Russian and British empires.

Washington is now war-weary amidst recognition that Taliban remain as much a reality today as they did 14 years ago when the so-called war on terror first began. Its recent initiatives are acknowledgements of its failures, and should not be taken to mean that its obsession with strategic interests has given way to a genuine concern for the well-being of Afghanistan’s — and the region’s — people.

But what the Western powers have done — and continue to do — in our region cannot allow us to gloss over what we have done and continue to do. Perhaps most damningly, the Pakistani state has always treated the ethnic Pakhtuns within Pakistan as threats, who are viewed at best as suspicious, and at worst as agents of Kabul.:crazy:

That Pakistani Pakhtuns have an affinity with their brethren across the Durand Line is to be expected.:undecided: Is it not true that Punjabis separated by the partition of 1947 tend to realise that they have much more in common when they come into contact with one another than the respective states of India and Pakistan have led them to believe via doctored textbooks and sensationalist medias?:suicide:

Yes prominent Pakhtun nationalists have, since the time of partition, explicitly challenged the basis of Pakistani statehood. But then, many Pakhtuns have also ingratiated themselves with the Pakistani establishment by taking up positions within the middle and higher echelons of the civil and military bureaucracies, and a case can easily be made that highly mobile working and lower-middle class Pakhtuns have been integrated into Pakistan’s economy and society more than any other ethno-linguistic group in the country.

Yet it takes very little for us to tag Pakistani Pakhtuns with the ‘Afghan’ label and then criminalise them accordingly.:crazy_pilot:

The nameless Pakhtuns who live in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) are regularly branded as ‘terrorists’ and ‘miscreants’, usually after they have been killed by security forces in ‘counterterrorist’ operations.8-)
More often than not these defenceless thousands are said to be backed by Kabul.

The situation is bad in the black hole that is Fata but it is scarcely better in major urban centres. Pakhtun katchi abadis from Karachi to Lahore to Islamabad are regularly caricatured as havens of crime.
Racial profiling by the police is common and the poorer one is, the higher the chance of being harassed by state personnel in the name of ‘security’. The state’s general attitude spills over into society at large — as is evidenced by the many jokes that circulate about the ‘dumb Pathan’.:hitwall:

In recent times police and administrators have even been found warning property-owners not to rent rooms to Pakhtuns, acknowledged as Pakistani citizens, evicted from a katchi abadi in the capital.

For the record, it is bad enough when Afghans to whom we gave refuge when jihad was in fashion in the 1980s :pakistan:are scapegoated for the state’s failings, but for Pakistani Pakhtuns to be systematically disenfranchised and violated in urban centres in the country with the backing of a pliant media and dumbed-down urban middle class is outrageous.

I am not suggesting that we naively assume that neighbouring countries harbour only good intentions towards us:welcome:. But continuing to use the bogey of the ‘security threat’ to cultivate enmity with neighbouring countries, and then, worse still, criminalising Pakistani Pakhtuns under the guise of being ‘Afghan’ is unacceptable. Or at least it should be to many more of us than it is at present.

The writer teaches at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.
Who is the writer of this crap ? And share the link
 
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Afghan's are no doubt our brothers and Neighbors but you can't let your brother to live in your house forever nor you allow your neighbor to curse you everyday for his own shit.
I hold Pashtuns in very high esteem but these morons and Nationalists are making life sour and bitter for everyone.
Many of assumption made by writer living under some rock make no sense at all.
And we have long-standing enmities with two of our immediate neighbours, India and Afghanistan.8-)
We have enmity with India because India is an Angel and we are devil and Evil Pakistanis.
Afghanistan, enemies take refuges, listen idiotic language and tolerate it and supply 100% food according to author.
Pakistani state has always treated the ethnic Pakhtuns within Pakistan as threats, who are viewed at best as suspicious, and at worst as agents of Kabul.:crazy:
That's why Ishaq khan was made head of state,Ayub khan as Army General,Hamid Gul as DG ISI and long list of Judges,Military officials,Bureaucratic Officials and scientists.
That Pakistani Pakhtuns have an affinity with their brethren across the Durand Line is to be expected.
Last time crica 1960's Afghan's attacked and Bajuri Tribals kicked them out of Agency.
Yet it takes very little for us to tag Pakistani Pakhtuns with the ‘Afghan’ label and then criminalise them accordingly.:crazy_pilot:
We call only a criminal a criminal if Afghan is smuggler or thief we will not call him Irani or Chinese.
The nameless Pakhtuns who live in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) are regularly branded as ‘terrorists’ and ‘miscreants’, usually after they have been killed by security forces in ‘counterterrorist’ operations.8-)
Regularly from time when they kicked some'one butt in Kashmir,and then when they left there homes to let army clear shit.
In recent times police and administrators have even been found warning property-owners not to rent rooms to Pakhtuns, acknowledged as Pakistani citizens, evicted from a katchi abadi in the capital.
Afghan Refuges not Pakhtuns and it's capital of Pakistan not refuges camp.
The state’s general attitude spills over into society at large — as is evidenced by the many jokes that circulate about the ‘dumb Pathan’.:hitwall:
One word for Author " Chutiye Gali Mohale ke batey National level par Apply na Kar."
but for Pakistani Pakhtuns to be systematically disenfranchised and violated in urban centres in the country with the backing of a pliant media and dumbed-down urban middle class is outrageous.
Jezz,Dal khor Punjabis have 10 million Pashtuns in Punjab doing business and Job.out of 30 million Pashtuns in Pakistan about 15 million are in Punjab and Sindh......
 
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Who is the writer of this crap ? And share the link
I was about to ask the same .Plus this prick questions our loyalty to the state, where as we have lost thousands of women and childeren. Who ever wrote this heinous article , must be questioned.

When finally we are moving towards a strong sense of nation hood . Such journalists have to come up with pathetic and speratist article undermining a specfic race, culture and province.

I don't care whether the writer is a Pukhtun, Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi or Urdu speaking. This article of his is an isult and a slap. Then when counter article's will be written. They will critisize , that such "content" should not be published.

Any how:"A strong United Pakistan is the need of the hour, not a tattered one".

May Allah grant "Hidayat " to the journalist who wrote this article Ameen
 
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These delusional people are still attached to the concept of Nation State when they are talking about a country like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan is not a Nation State rather a confederation type State like USA and Canada. We cant push whole Population to one Nationhood rather we have to maintain the balance between all the Units and their populous in Pakistan.
 
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Our Afghan problem
Aasim Sajjad Akhtar — Published Aug 28, 2015 12:57pm

PAKISTAN is a unique country on many accounts. Ours is a confessional state, sharing a stage only with Israel amongst modern polities. We have an all-powerful army that is synonymous with the ‘ideology of Pakistan’. And we have long-standing enmities with two of our immediate neighbours, India and Afghanistan.

It is an indicator of how peculiar the Pakistani psyche is that we have never truly reconciled to our geographical inheritance. Having insisted on carving out a country from the ruins of the British Raj, we then proceeded to engage ourselves in an unending quarrel with the folks next door, which in a strange way threw — and continues to throw — the whole project of Pakistani nationhood into doubt.

But I will not digress. My concern in this column is with our Afghan ‘problem’— a festering wound that refuses to heal, despite the voices of sane people on both sides of the border, and indeed, the world.

The state has always treated ethnic Pakhtuns with suspicion.
At the beginning I would like to clarify that the Western powers that are today apparently the biggest backers of peace between ourselves and the Afghans are anything but mutual well-wishers. Washington and its lackeys have waged war in the region for at least 40 years — in fact, 200 if one goes back to the days of the Russian and British empires.

Washington is now war-weary amidst recognition that Taliban remain as much a reality today as they did 14 years ago when the so-called war on terror first began. Its recent initiatives are acknowledgements of its failures, and should not be taken to mean that its obsession with strategic interests has given way to a genuine concern for the well-being of Afghanistan’s — and the region’s — people.

But what the Western powers have done — and continue to do — in our region cannot allow us to gloss over what we have done and continue to do. Perhaps most damningly, the Pakistani state has always treated the ethnic Pakhtuns within Pakistan as threats, who are viewed at best as suspicious, and at worst as agents of Kabul.

That Pakistani Pakhtuns have an affinity with their brethren across the Durand Line is to be expected. Is it not true that Punjabis separated by the partition of 1947 tend to realise that they have much more in common when they come into contact with one another than the respective states of India and Pakistan have led them to believe via doctored textbooks and sensationalist medias?

Yes prominent Pakhtun nationalists have, since the time of partition, explicitly challenged the basis of Pakistani statehood. But then, many Pakhtuns have also ingratiated themselves with the Pakistani establishment by taking up positions within the middle and higher echelons of the civil and military bureaucracies, and a case can easily be made that highly mobile working and lower-middle class Pakhtuns have been integrated into Pakistan’s economy and society more than any other ethno-linguistic group in the country.

Yet it takes very little for us to tag Pakistani Pakhtuns with the ‘Afghan’ label and then criminalise them accordingly.

The nameless Pakhtuns who live in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) are regularly branded as ‘terrorists’ and ‘miscreants’, usually after they have been killed by security forces in ‘counterterrorist’ operations. More often than not these defenceless thousands are said to be backed by Kabul.

The situation is bad in the black hole that is Fata but it is scarcely better in major urban centres. Pakhtun katchi abadis from Karachi to Lahore to Islamabad are regularly caricatured as havens of crime. Racial profiling by the police is common and the poorer one is, the higher the chance of being harassed by state personnel in the name of ‘security’. The state’s general attitude spills over into society at large — as is evidenced by the many jokes that circulate about the ‘dumb Pathan’.

In recent times police and administrators have even been found warning property-owners not to rent rooms to Pakhtuns, acknowledged as Pakistani citizens, evicted from a katchi abadi in the capital.

For the record, it is bad enough when Afghans to whom we gave refuge when jihad was in fashion in the 1980s are scapegoated for the state’s failings, but for Pakistani Pakhtuns to be systematically disenfranchised and violated in urban centres in the country with the backing of a pliant media and dumbed-down urban middle class is outrageous.

I am not suggesting that we naively assume that neighbouring countries harbour only good intentions towards us. But continuing to use the bogey of the ‘security threat’ to cultivate enmity with neighbouring countries, and then, worse still, criminalising Pakistani Pakhtuns under the guise of being ‘Afghan’ is unacceptable. Or at least it should be to many more of us than it is at present.
 
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These delusional people are still attached to the concept of Nation State when they are talking about a country like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan is not a Nation State rather a confederation type State like USA and Canada. We cant push whole Population to one Nationhood rather we have to maintain the balance between all the Units and their populous in Pakistan.
This state was created in the name of "islam" .It is a theological state. And the muslims leaders assured minoroties and their rights as citizens of Pakistan will be protected by the constitution. Any body who thinks that the basis of Nation hood of Pakistan were wrong is in a dillusion him or her self. The international powers
are trying their best to create such perceptions as the "Author" above has stated.

Inshallah this hegemonic design is being rooted out in form of Zarb-e-Azb and the world will see the fustration of those who think of such falacy.
 
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This state was created in the name of "islam" .It is a theological state. And the muslims leaders assured minoroties and their rights as citizens of Pakistan will be protected by the constitution. Any body who thinks that the basis of Nation hood of Pakistan were wrong is in a dillusion him or her self. The international powers
are trying their best to create such perceptions as the "Author" above has stated.

Inshallah this hegemonic design is being rooted out in form of Zarb-e-Azb and the world will see the fustration of those who think of such falacy.
I think Partition of India and Pakistan was similar to Breakup of Yugoslavia where three of the States have been curved from it on the basis of Religious Beliefs so in this sense I dont think much Theological Value here as Pakistan isnt Created like Israel by dumping all the Holocaust Survivors(Ashkenazis) and their kins from Arab World(Mizrahis) and Spanish Colonies(Sporadic) in one Small Country rather Pakistani Population have been Indigenous to the region and only small number of people have Migrated history.

Our Country is more of a Confederation of Four Major Groups and so many Sub Groups exist within our territory rather then a State representing a single group like Germany or Japan or China.
 
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I think Partition of India and Pakistan was similar to Breakup of Yugoslavia where three of the States have been curved from it on the basis of Religious Beliefs so in this sense I dont think much Theological Value here as Pakistan isnt Created like Israel by dumping all the Holocaust Survivors(Ashkenazis) and their kins from Arab World(Mizrahis) and Spanish Colonies(Sporadic) in one Small Country rather Pakistani Population have been Indigenous to the region and only small number of people have Migrated history.

Our Country is more of a Confederation of Four Major Groups and so many Sub Groups exist within our territory rather then a State representing a single group like Germany or Japan or China.

Well said.

We just can't force people to give up their identity because we feel insecure if someone is proud of their Baloch,Pashtun,Punjabi... heritage.
We have to link these identities with Pakistan meaning a proud Baloch equals to a proud Pakistani.

Also in the long run the U.K model can be applied here !
 
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Well said.

We just can't force people to give up their identity because we feel insecure if someone is proud of their Baloch,Pashtun,Punjabi... heritage.
We have to link these identities with Pakistan meaning a proud Baloch equals to a proud Pakistani.

Also in the long run the U.K model can be applied here !
For a State like ours UNITY is Required the Most for saving the setup rather then Pride or Nationalism and that is where we havent put our Attention and try to enforce either Religion or Nationalism. One could argue that we are United within Islam but even in Islam we are watching lots of Polarization like Sects. and their violence has also becoming a huge Dividing Factor in Pakistan. So we need to find different route for keeping our Country United and I believe the best route for us is Economy.
 
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For a State like ours UNITY is Required the Most for saving the setup rather then Pride or Nationalism and that is where we havent put our Attention and try to enforce either Religion or Nationalism. One could argue that we are United within Islam but even in Islam we are watching lots of Polarization like Sects. and their violence has also becoming a huge Dividing Factor in Pakistan. So we need to find different route for keeping our Country United and I believe the best route for us is Economy.

Religion has bought us time but relying solely on it won't solve our problems.
Yes economic inter-dependency is the way forward infact we have already seen its partial success with the economic integration of the Pashtuns.
 
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