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Ottoman Monuments in Greece and Including Ottoman colorized footage from Balkan in 1909

Germany was a Turkish protectorate when they got cornered in Europe and sought refuge with them.

Look what architecture compared to the Turks? You have left nothing except one thing. The Turkish architecture is much superior than the ancient greek architecture.

Can you build marvels like this
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what the heck? that's built during the byzantine era...lol not by ottomon.
 
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@Apollon Welcome to defence.pk where pakistanis are feeling more turkish than the turks themselves. They see Erdogan and Turkey as champions of muslims worldwide,they are the kind of people who will defend and promote muslim invasion and colonization of christian countries but will cry if you promote European colonialism. They are the kind of people who will cry about islamophobia in Europe but at the same time go blind about what happens in countries like China. "muh western propaganda".

You are on a forum where some believe after 2023 the ottoman empire will rise again,lmao.

Thats super crazy but thanks for explaining
So you take revenge from a building ? Revenge for getting shafted for centuries by Ottomans ?
Pitty petty you my timid friend.


Thats all cute till you start talking bout algerian genocide and french fks stare away.
That said nobody like french thats for sure.

Why revenge on a building? We have no muslims in Greece in considerable numbers. Giving that building a purpose is better than ripping it down. People celebrate there, have fun. What could be better than to be a place of happiness for a building that was erected in dark times?
 
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Try to re-read history Switzerland has been for a century while a good junk of Austria was under Ottoman right up to the gates of Vienna for a long period of time

Wrong, it was an attack against austria, where turks got destroyed...twice.
 
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Wrong, it was an attack against austria, where turks got destroyed...twice.

Turks were inside Austria and held good portion of it. You can't just be at the gates of Vienna if you don't hold half of the country

A map showing all the territories which is more than half of the known world.. We have controlled bigger territories than the west in the known world but if you include the new world it becomes a different case whereas we have held 6-7 times more lands than the Roman empire + the Ottoman empire
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Turks were inside Austria and held good portion of it. You can't just be at the gates of Vienna if you don't hold half of the country

A map showing all the territories which is more than half of the known world.. We have controlled bigger territories than the west in the known world but if you include the new world it becomes a different case whereas we have held 6-7 times more than the Roman empire + the Ottoman empire
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British were in Iran and held the entire country. Ypu cant be in Tehran, kick the old king out and install a new one without holding the country.

By your own words now you admit Iran was taken by the british.

Btw evrything you show in that map was and is hold by the west.

Your own country Pakistan was hold by Greece.

And what you mean with ",we"?

For you all islamic empires are same? Great. Than Alexander Empire, Roman Empire, French Empire, Spanish Empire, British Empire, Russian Empire and German Empire are all same as well.

Good that you defeated yourself with your own words.

@Foinikas
 
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British were in Iran and held the entire country. Ypu cant be in Tehran, kick the old king out and install a new one without holding the country.

By your own words now you admit Iran was taken by the british.

Btw evrything you show in that map was and is hold by the west.

Your own country Pakistan was hold by Greece.

And what you mean with ",we"?

For you all islamic empires are same? Great. Than Alexander Empire, Roman Empire, French Empire, Spanish Empire, British Empire, Russian Empire and German Empire are all same as well.

Good that you defeated yourself with your own words.

@Foinikas

I admit to the Reza Incident Russo-British armies entered Tehren I am not denying that but they did not enter all of the country they came thru the Caucaus. Yes Greeks held north Pakistan that is historical fact I am not contesting that either. I am not contesting either the fact that the western world (Spanish-English-Italian and French) Also held a huge territories at one point in time of their own
 
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I admit to the Reza Incident Russo-British armies entered Tehren I am not denying that but they did not enter all of the country they came thru the Caucaus. Yes Greeks held north Pakistan that is historical fact I am not contesting that either. I am not contesting either the fact that the western world (Spanish-English-Italian and French) Also held a huge territories at one point in time of their own


Turks did not enter all of austria and did not take the capital. They had less power over Austria than the british had over Iran. What you claim next? That Xerxes conquered Sparta even so his army and fleet got crushed? Did Hitler also conquer Russia? His troops were at Moscow.

Dude get real.
 
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Turks did not enter all of austria and did not take the capital. They had less power over Austria than the british had over Iran. What you claim next? That Xerxes conquered Sparta even so his army and fleet got crushed? Did Hitler also conquer Russia? His troops were at Moscow.

Dude get real.

He makes a good point. It's like saying Napoleon conquered Russia.
 
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KSA was a british protectorate.

Iran was conquered, british troops ruled in tehran and forced Reza Khan into exile.

Freedom? Are you kidding me? We Greeks are one of most cultivated civilisations and had to endure 400 years of barbarism, primitivism and complete downfall of culture. We had to fight our freedom back to regain our former glory.
Iran, KSA, Turkey and Afghanistan were never conquered genius. Talking about being conquered... Was Greece not part of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years?
 
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Iran, KSA, Turkey and Afghanistan were never conquered genius. Talking about being conquered... Was Greece not part of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years?

Iran was never conquered? How did it became islamic then? Afghanistan was conquered multiple times. At one point it even was Greek.

And yes, in our 4000 years greek history, we had 400 years of barbarism and primitivism under ottoman rule.
 
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Iran was never conquered? How did it became islamic then? Afghanistan was conquered multiple times. At one point it even was Greek.

And yes, in our 4000 years greek history, we had 400 years of barbarism and primitivism under ottoman rule.

That was way pre-islam. He was only refering to post that. We are not talking about greek myth from 4000 years ago
 
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That was way pre-islam. He was only refering to post that. We are not talking about greek myth from 4000 years ago

Iran was conquered by the british. You admitted it yourself.

And now you say our greek history is a myth? Yeah right you think Minoans, Mycaene, Olympia, Persian wars, Byzantine ect never existed? 😅 Dude it gets bizarre now.
 
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I wasn't talking about you specifically,but Algerians,Moroccans and other Muslims who rush to reach Europe and into the lands of the cultures they supposedly hate.

The same reason why so many young Greeks migrate to Germany despite prevalent anti-German sentiment in Greece.


North Africans migrated to France because they were part of the French Empire and its economic structure in the same way that Greece is part of the EU and therefore many Greeks moved to a country whose geo-political actions were perceived in their home country as negative.

Individuals first and foremost care about their and their offsprings economic well being. Ideologies and political views come second.
 
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Iran was conquered by the british. You admitted it yourself.

And now you say our greek history is a myth? Yeah right you think Minoans, Mycaene, Olympia, Persian wars, Byzantine ect never existed? 😅 Dude it gets bizarre now.

I agree partial with Iran.. The Greek mythology is to far out in history like 4000 years ago we are talking recent history
 
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