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Opinionated - China Chipping Away to Semiconductor Dominance

We are stuck at 14nm. Unless Trump creates another weapon banning any foundry from helping China manufacture chips, the only way is for TSMC to spin off a subsidiary and move it to China specifically for Chinese market.
the key to go down below 14 nm is china need a better photolithography technology. Solving this problem is equal to solve all problems. Where are Chinese scientists and engineers? why no one gather thousands of them to solve this issue?
 
China releases chips that can 'talk' to brain

Updated 21:36, 17-May-2019
By Ning Hong


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China released its first computer chips that can read brain activity.

The chip, named "Brain Talker," was released at The 3rd World Intelligence Congress held in Tianjin. The computer chip was jointly developed by Tianjin University and China Electronics Cooperation.

"This computer chip could identify minor nerve information from brain waves generated by the cerebral cortex, and then decode the command," said Ming Dong, director of Academy of Medical Engineering and Translational Medicine, Tianjin University.

"It will help to improve the communication efficiency between brain and machine," he added.

Brain-Computer Interface technology, also known as BCI, aims to build a connection between the brain with external devices.

The "Brain Talker" may open the pathway for the civil use of portable and wearable BCIs in areas such as medical treatment, education, home life, and gaming, according to Cheng Longlong, a data scientist from China Electronics Corporation.

China holds the fully independent intellectual property of the chip, and it could further boost the research on brain science and brain-like intelligence in China.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d674d32517a4e34457a6333566d54/index.html
 
It wont last long. The spin off subsidiary (whether still under TSMC or not) will be banned from purchasing new equipment from US and at the end their manufacturing equipment will be obsolete.
Why do you think AMEC has a 5nm machine already? It's used by TSMC. we can't make the machines for the whole process, still behind for some process. But hey if US behaves like this, means they know we are capable of competition. This reaction is a desperate reaction.lol
 
First, there is no TSMC ban.

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the most important chip producer for Huawei's mobile and networking core processors, said it will maintain supplies for the time being even though it continues to assess the impact of Washington's decision this week to bar Huawei from receiving U.S. technologies.

"We have established a complicated and sophisticated export control compliance system," TSMC spokesperson Elizabeth Sun said. "Based upon the data in the system we are not changing our shipping practice for the time being."

https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Tra...rs-dust-off-backup-plans-to-prepare-for-storm

Second, this is how you get around it.

After Intel pulled out of the 5G modem market, the USA has only one supplier – Qualcomm. With the addition of Unisoc to HiSilicon as a supplier, China has two.

Unisoc’s Ivy 510 5G modem is to be fabbed on TSMC’s 7nm process this year, according to Unisoc CEO Steve Chu.

Unisoc will join a band of five suppliers of 5G modems: Qualcomm, Mediatek, HiSilicon, Samsung and Unisoc.

All of them, except Samsung, will have their modems made on TSMC’s 7nm process.

https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/china-get-second-5g-modem-source-2019-05/
 
China's UniStrong Sci-Tech Unveils First All-Beidou-3-Satellite-Signal Chip
DOU SHICONG
DATE : MAY 21 2019/SOURCE : YICAI

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China's UniStrong Sci-Tech Unveils First All-Beidou-3-Satellite-Signal Chip

(Yicai Global) May 21 -- Lyra-II, the world's first high-precision baseband chip that supports China's latest-generation Beidou-3 satellite navigation system, officially debuted in Beijing yesterday.

Devices fitted with the Lyra-II microprocessor will be able to receive all the Beidou-3 system's signals. The wafer's new anti-interference technology can detect and suppress interfering signals, UniStrong explained at the launch conference.

The company's shares [SHE:002383] hit the 10 percent limit up bourse rules impose after today's opening to close at CNY12.7 (USD1.8) on the chip's release

Beijing-based navigation technology developer UniStrong Science & Technology spent over CNY50 million (USD7.2 million) and two years of research and development on Lyra-II and achieved mass production last month in a development that will boost the commercial application of China's self-developed satellite system.

Terminals equipped with the chip are expected to come out in August this year, online news portal China News reported.

Beidou-3 completed basic system construction and began to beam information at the end of last year. Its signal now reaches 3 billion people in over 50 countries and is expected to achieve full global coverage by next year.

A baseband processor is a device in a network interface that handles all radio functions.
 
Taiwan's TSMC says chip shipments to Huawei not affected by U.S. ban
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-huawei-not-affected-by-u-s-ban-idUSKCN1ST08O

There are two general levels of ARM license: core licenses and architectural licenses.

Huawei has a permanent license for the ARMv8 architecture. That means Huawei has the option of designing a custom core like Apple's Vortex and Tempest cores. Another example would be Qualcomm's custom Kryo cores. All of these cores are compatible with the ARM instruction set, but isn’t an ARM Cortex design.

You are not required to use ARM Cortex.

It was claimed that Huawei has prepared for its brewing standoff with the U.S. government by obtaining "a permanent license for ARMv8 architecture." And ARM8 is the 32/64-bit instruction set of ARM, the report published by the tech site added.

"It means that the Chinese tech giant can completely design ARM processors independently and master core technologies complete with intellectual property right," GizGuide further claimed.

https://en.businesstimes.cn/article...ense-intends-to-win-u-s-imposed-trade-ban.htm
 
Taiwan's TSMC says chip shipments to Huawei not affected by U.S. ban
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-huawei-not-affected-by-u-s-ban-idUSKCN1ST08O



It was claimed that Huawei has prepared for its brewing standoff with the U.S. government by obtaining "a permanent license for ARMv8 architecture." And ARM8 is the 32/64-bit instruction set of ARM, the report published by the tech site added.

"It means that the Chinese tech giant can completely design ARM processors independently and master core technologies complete with intellectual property right," GizGuide further claimed.

https://en.businesstimes.cn/article...ense-intends-to-win-u-s-imposed-trade-ban.htm
That's the ISA, actually it's just the format for programming the chip. We can either do it forcibly or legally, but since we paid for it, it's legal already. I am not worried about cores/micro-architecture, that's not hard for us. As long as TSMC is allowing us to make our chips there, life would still be okay. OS, I am also not worried, market share will drop overseas, but we will take over Apples share in China, and since android is open source and based on linux, we already have an android compatible OS, app store wise, we can create a mirror store of a collection of those apps, since it's based on open source android anyway.

By booting out Mac and Android, we can create a unified android base OS, which is open source to all. China will be our main market to sustain this ecosystem, then third world countries will be next.
 
Chinese scientists develop transistors about the width of a human DNA strand | South China Morning Post
  • Beijing team believes it has solved problem of powering tens of billions of nanometre-sized transistors without burning out the chip

Stephen Chen
Published: 12:00am, 27 May, 2019

Chinese scientists say they have created a transistor that will increase the performance of microchips exponentially and dramatically reduce their energy use.

The most advanced computer chips on the market today use seven-nanometre transistors. Professor Yin Huaxiang said his team had developed 3nm transistors – about the width of a human DNA strand – and that tens of billions of them could fit on a fingernail-size chip.

The smaller transistors become, the more can be fitted onto chips, increasing the performance of a processor exponentially, said Yin, deputy director of microelectronics device and integrated technology at the Institute of Microelectronics, the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing.

Transistors are the building blocks of processors. Those built with 3nm transistors would increase computing speed and cut energy consumption, Yin said. So, a smartphone user, for instance, could play games that demanded lots of computing power all day without the need to recharge batteries.

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Chip developers at the Institute of Microelectronics believe their breakthroughs in transistors and microchips will propel Chinese technology into a serious rivalry with companies such as Samsung. Photo: AP

The Chinese team, whose research was published in part in peer-reviewed journal IEEE Electron Device Letters this month, had to overcome major obstacles, Yin said. One was the Boltzmann Tyranny, 19th century Austrian physicist Ludwig Boltzmann’s description of a problem involving the distribution of electrons in a space.

For chip developers, this meant that as more and smaller transistors went into microchips, the heat generated by the electricity the transistors needed would burn the chip.

Physicists have proposed solutions to this problem. Yin’s team, using a method known as negative capacitance, was able to power transistors by using half the theoretical minimum amount of electricity required, he said.

Commercialisation could take a few years as the team worked on materials and quality control.

“This is the most exciting part of our work. It is not just another new finding in a laboratory. It has a high potential for real, serious applications,” Yin said. “And we have the patent.”

The breakthrough would put China into a “head-on competition with the world’s top players at the very front line of chip development”, Yin said.

“In the past, we were watching others fight. Now we are fighting the others.”

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While scientists develop a new generation of transistors, the groundbreaking commercial potential of the technology is some time away, they say. Photo: Reuters

In Beijing, a Tsinghua University professor who studied future chip technology said China’s development was rapidly catching up with Western countries as a result of the trade tariffs war being fought out by Beijing and Washington.

“A gap remains, [and] it is unlikely to close overnight with a single breakthrough,” said the academic who declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the work.

While there are transistors about the size of an atom – half a nanometre – in development in China, other countries have joined the race to bring 3nm transistors to market.

Samsung in South Korea said it planned to complete the development of a 3nm transistor by the first half of next year.

Compared to 7-nm technology, Samsung said a processor built with its 3-nm transistors would use half as much power to achieve a 35 per cent higher performance.

The company did not say when it expected those chips to enter production.
 
China sees steady development of integrated circuit industry

Xinhua, May 28, 2019

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A kid views chips designed for 5G base stations by Huawei during China International Big Data Industry Expo 2019 in Guiyang, southwest China's Guizhou Province, May 26, 2019. [Photo/Xinhua]

China has made progress in its integrated circuit industry and vowed to share opportunities with other nations, a senior official said.

The industry maintained an annual growth rate of above 20 percent in 2012-2018, with sales reaching 653.2 billion yuan (about 94.77 billion U.S. dollars) last year, according to Wang Zhijun, vice minister of industry and information technology.

The country has seen constant progress in its chip design, manufacturing and test technologies, Wang told Xinhua in an interview.

For example, he said Kirin 980 mobile phone chip developed by HiSilicon, Huawei's chipset subsidiary, is manufactured by the cutting edge 7nm process.

Stressing the industry's high level of globalization, Wang said recent U.S. moves had disrupted the order and international division of labor in the industry, reduced the efficiency of resource allocation, and hindered the industry's stable development worldwide.

Looking ahead, China will be more integrated into the global ecosystem of the industry and seek further development in opening-up, innovation and cooperation, Wang said.

The country will continue improving its business environment, treating domestic and foreign investors equally and strengthening the protection of intellectual property rights to share with the world the opportunities provided by the Chinese market, he added.

http://www.china.org.cn/business/2019-05/28/content_74829845.htm
 
Small wonders: Chinese scientists develop transistors ...

3nm,0.5nm

May 27, 2019 · Chinese scientists say they’ve created a transistor that can improve the efficiency of microchips exponentially and dramatically scale back their power use.Essentially the most superior pc chips in the marketplace at present use seven-nanometre transistors. Professor Yin Huaxiang stated his workforce had developed 3nm transistors ...


中国3纳米晶体管研发获突破 在芯片前沿发起正面竞争

2019年05月28日 11:33

港媒称,内地的科学家说,他们已经研发出一种晶体管,这种晶体管将大大增强芯片的性能,并大幅降低它们的能耗。

据香港《南华早报》网站5月27日报道,现如今,市场上最先进的计算机芯片使用7纳米晶体管。中国科学院微电子研究所微电子设备与集成技术领域的专家殷华湘说,他的团队已经研发出3纳米晶体管——相当于一条人类DNA链的宽度,在一个指甲盖大小的芯片上能安装数百亿个这种晶体管。



殷华湘说,晶体管变得越小,芯片上就能安装越多的晶体管,这会让处理器的性能显著提升。晶体管是处理器的基本部件。殷华湘说,用3纳米晶体管制造的处理器将会增加计算速度,并降低能耗。比如一位智能手机用户可以整天玩需要大量计算能力的游戏,却不需要为电池重新充电。

殷华湘说,他的团队还必须克服一些重大障碍。他们的研究成果本月部分发表在同行评议杂志《电气与电子工程师协会电子器件通讯》上。其中一个障碍是“波尔兹曼暴政”。路德维希·波尔兹曼是19世纪的奥地利物理学家。“波尔兹曼暴政”描述的是有关电子在一个空间中的分布问题。对芯片研发者来说,这意味着随着更多较小的晶体管安装到芯片上,晶体管所需电流产生的热量将烧毁芯片。

报道称,物理学家已经为这个问题提供了解决办法。殷华湘说,他的团队使用一种称为“负电容”的方法,这样他们能用理论上所需最小电量的一半电量来为晶体管提供电力。这种晶体管实现商业应用可能要花几年时间。该团队正在进行材料和质量控制方面的工作。

殷华湘说:“这是我们工作中最激动人心的部分。这不仅是实验室中的又一项新发现。它有着实际应用的巨大潜力。而我们拥有专利。”

报道称,殷华湘说,这项突破将让中国“在芯片研发的前沿同世界头号角色进行正面竞争”。他说:“在过去,我们看着其他人竞争。现在,我们在同其他人竞争。”

据报道,中国还在研发一种原子大小(0.5纳米)的晶体管,而其他国家已经加入将3纳米晶体管投入市场的竞赛。

韩国三星公司说,它计划到明年上半年完成3纳米晶体管的研发。三星说,同7纳米技术相比,用它的3纳米晶体管制造的处理器只需用一半的电力,性能却会提高35%。三星没有说它预计这些芯片将于何时投产。
 
Fudan research team makes chip breakthrough
By HE WEI in Shanghai | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-05-27 23:00

A research team from Fudan University has discovered a novel basic architecture for chips that is expected to achieve higher area efficiency through halving the space of logic gate, or the elementary building block of a digital circuit.

The study, led by professors Zhang Wei and Zhou Peng at Fudan University's School of Microelectronics, will soon be published on Nature Nanotechnology, a top-notch academic journal covering nanoscience and nanotechnology.

Such a prototyped transistor is based on a two-dimensional material that can realize photo-swtiching logic computing in a single cell, thanks to its two-surface channels, said Zhang.

This is likely to extend Moore's Law, an observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every 18 months. The theory has in recent years been challenged by industrial players as they face mounting difficulties in further scaling down chips in size.

Another primary breakthrough is the development of an architecture that can be flexibly expanded to achieve both computing and data storage at the same time. And the consequent shrunken size of chips will greatly improve computing performance and further lower costs.

"These devices show the potential of becoming promising candidates for the construction of new chips that can perform computing and storage with unique functions and with high area-efficiency," Zhou said.

"The work opens up new horizons for seeking promising solutions to future electronic device and novel circuit architecture…The exceptional application concept for next-generation integrated circuits of two-dimensional semiconductors will open a new gate to the computing and memory," according to a statement from the journal's review committee.
 
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Bring on the Intel ban.:lol:

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I guess you don't know that this is a chip that is based on AMD designs. In fact AMD created a joint venture to transfer and help in chip design and production.

If AMD is barred from doing such kind of collaboration, this company will basically drop dead.
 
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MADE IN CHINA

Bring on the Intel ban.:lol:

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For those that are wondering, the Hygon 7185 is a 32 core server CPU. 2.0 GHz. TDP 180W. EPYC 7551 equivalent.

I guess you don't know that this is a chip that is based on AMD designs. In fact AMD created a joint venture to transfer and help in chip design and production.

If AMD is barred from doing such kind of collaboration, this company will basically drop dead.

Yes, a big thank you to AMD for transferring the x86 ISA and Zen core into China for a measly $293 million and some royalties.

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SMIC To Start 14nm Mass Production in H1 2019
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13941/smics-14-nm-mass-production-in-1h-2019
 
For those that are wondering, the Hygon 7185 is a 32 core server CPU. 2.0 GHz. TDP 180W. EPYC 7551 equivalent.

Also let me quickly repost this.:lol:

One of the big questions will be if Intel can compete with 28 cores on 14nm when AMD is ready to roll out 64 cores on 7nm, and how the performance will differ. One of the clever things Intel has done in this contest is to draw the talk away from just quoting core counts:lol:, and help build a platform around its product.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14146/intel-xeon-scalable-cascade-lake-deep-dive-now-with-optane
 
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