Opinion: Providing Firepower to Palestinian Resistance

[Imran Khan]

I am more worried about Kashmiris grabbing my collar not Palestinians. Our country cant even get Kahmir back and you want us to travel to other side of globe to wage war against Israel. Grow up. That is why i said Molvis have turned our brains into mush. We live in world of fantasies not reality. Muslims in their prime had money to finance their wars not stories. If you run into a soldier nowadays with just you faith he will put 20 bullets up your arse before you can even reach him. Allah also gave us brains so please use it for once.

its all zaid hamid effect on society they think its horse and knife era .

 

[Dalit]

and you did not understand the reality sir . reality is these countries are fighting each other today .

turkey vs UAE
turkey vs KSA
turkey vs egypt
iran vs UAE
iran vs KSA
iran vs egypt
iran vs bahrain
saudi vs yemen
yemen vs yemen
syria vs syria
libya vs libya
iraq vs iran
iraq vs iraq
afghanistan vs pakistan
turkey vs turkey
turkey vs iran
uae vs yemen
sudan vs yemen
algeria vs morroco
morroco vs morroco
turkey vs syria
syria vs iraq
jordan vs syria
palestine vs pelastine


ap konsy khawab main so rahy thy sir ? dont you see ME is burning since 2003 ?

That is exactly what needs to end. Who will end it? Powerful Islamic nations who started these conflicts in the first place. They have vested interests. Shia Sunni facade. Let me give you a hint. When KSA and Iran come together you can cross 70% of the conflicts from your list. What will remains can be solved amicably through dialogue.

Even in a family you need the elders to lead by example. If they don't lead by example the children have no future. The principle is the same for nations. You need leading nations to lead by example. If they don't the outcome is visible. Chaos and bloodshed with outsiders fanning flames of hate.

Don't be such a pessimist even though it is hard not to be. The alternative is dire.

 

[Imran Khan]

That is exactly what needs to end. Who will end it? Powerful Islamic nations who started these conflicts in the first place. Let me give you a hint. When KSA and Iran come together you can cross 70% of the conflicts from your list.

Don't be such a pessimist even though it us hard not to be.

my dear its on table since1979 and never end what make you think it will end now ?palestinans are also not saints they are fighting each other and lossing more and more land since ages there was a time when palestine have good land airports infrastructure and setup they should take 2 state idea that time and make themselves stronger but they did not . rather they selected mob mentality of muslim world and keep pushing things to worse . do you remeber gaza have function airport ?

 

[Dalit]

my dear its on table since1979 and never end what make you think it will end now ?palestinans are also not saints they are fighting each other and lossing more and more land since ages there was a time when palestine have good land airports infrastructure and setup they should take 2 state idea that time and make themselves stronger but they did not . rather they selected mob mentality of muslim world and keep pushing things to worse . do you remeber gaza have function airport ?

Agreed. If you go into minute detail fault is on all sides. Although what is happening with Israeli land grabbing is obviously daylight robbery. The Brits stole Palestinian land and gave it to the European settlers. The Palestinians are not at fault here. Despite their rioting etc. They are being executed when the entire world is turning a blind eye.

Let me say this loud and clear. Israel is now a reality. You cannot just pretend it is not there. A two state solution is the only outcome for peaceful coexistence. No matter how bitter this may sound. The Israelis don't seek a peaceful outcome because they want the whole pie. They want to extend their territory by snatching as much Palestinian land as possible.

My concern is much broader though. It is regarding unity and cooperation among all Islamic nations. We don't seek another Palestine. This will happen if Islamic nations don't get their act together and form a bloc to protect their interests and well-being. I understand why some members laugh at this notion considering how Islamic nations have been pulling each other's legs. The state of many Islamic nations is also shoddy to say the least. Nevertheless you need to start somewhere. If you do not, the loss will be ours. Remember that these are our lands and resources.

If you don't seek cooperation on religious grounds seek it on developmental grounds. Try to find some sort of common ground. Do something because the water has already left the head. It can always get much worse.

 

[alimobin memon]

I am not a pessimist. Anyone who reads my opinions knows that. Yes, I try to be honest. I still believe if all Islamic nations bundle their minds and resources things can improve very quickly.

Indeed that is true

 

[khanmubashir]

It's time Pakistani establishment and government grows balls and show guts and demand Egypt and Jordan to give us route to supply Palestinians with weapons with which they can unleash hell on Israel. It's very clear that Israel will use every chance to attack us through use of our neighbor India. It's time to return the favor and it's time to defend Qibla e Awwal.

Pakistan needs to equip the resistance with cruise missiles and other weapons and also help them improve their rockets and their speeds. Plus provide them with latest Anti Tank and other weapons. We have to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have some shame. I wonder with which face we are going to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW

First provide this firepower to Kashmiris

 

[Indus Pakistan]

How about start from Kashmir. Islamically, Pakistan has a responsibility for Kashmir before any distant land.

Mmmm which one is it?

• Mullah logic - don't bother with taking down kaffirs on the LOC Kashmir which is only two hours and 100 miles away
• Mullah smarts - bother with crying on about Gaza which is 2000 miles as thus you can safely avoid doing anything because of you have excuse. It's too far away.

Which one is it @Zarvan ? Is this a safe way to cop out of your Islamic duty?

and you did not understand the reality sir . reality is these countries are fighting each other today .

turkey vs UAE
turkey vs KSA
turkey vs egypt
iran vs UAE
iran vs KSA
iran vs egypt
iran vs bahrain
saudi vs yemen
yemen vs yemen
syria vs syria
libya vs libya
iraq vs iran
iraq vs iraq
afghanistan vs pakistan
turkey vs turkey
turkey vs iran
uae vs yemen
sudan vs yemen
algeria vs morroco
morroco vs morroco
turkey vs syria
syria vs iraq
jordan vs syria
palestine vs pelastine


ap konsy khawab main so rahy thy sir ? dont you see ME is burning since 2003 ?

May I also add we have dozens fighting each other inside the countries? TTP, TLP, Jundullah, Sipahi Sahaba, ISIS, AQ etc

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Are you comparing Hamas, a group of Palestinians that their lands have been stolen from them, to a bunch of ruthless backward people that has been the root cause of Afghanistan's illiteracy and development problems? Do you know what the Taliban did in Afghanistan? How is that in any way relevant to the occupation of Palestine by Israel?

Yes, raising proxies against the occupying regime of Israel that has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades, has deprived them of their own natural resources like water, has made millions of them homeless, and continues to oppress Palestinians and deprive them of basic human rights, is a barometer of bravery when all other Muslims are turning a blind eye to these atrocities and pretend that it is better for Palestinians to be left alone to die unarmed, only because they fear the reactions of the oppressors and care only about their own interests.

Piss off! Take a hike.

What your Iranian proxies have done against occupying forces? Which war they won and won decisively? When did they manage to throw the occupation of their land?? All BS talk.

Pakistani proxies first kicked Soviet union out Afghanistan, and then later kicked another super power , yanks booted out of Afghanistan. Our proxies ENDED the occupation. You Persians are only good at BS.

 

[Arian]

Piss off! Take a hike.

What your Iranian proxies have done against occupying forces? Which war they won and won decisively? When did they manage to throw the occupation of their land?? All BS talk.

Pakistani proxies first kicked Soviet union out Afghanistan, and then later kicked another super power , yanks booted out of Afghanistan. Our proxies ENDED the occupation. You Persians are only good at BS.

Hezbollah - Israel war in 2000. Israeli forces left Southern Lebanon. The same Israel that defeated multiple Arab countries in 6 days was defeated by a group of militants in Lebanon.

South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000) - Wikipedia

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Date	16 February 1985 – 25 May 2000
Location	Southern Lebanon
Result	Hezbollah victory[1] The collapse and surrender of the SLA and its South Lebanon security belt administration Israeli withdrawal from South Lebanon[2] Shebaa Farms conflict

You did next to nothing in the Soviet-Afghanistan war while Iran actively and openly supported Ahmad Shah Masoud. Saudi Arabia and Iran played a much bolder role in the Soviet-Afghanistan war than Pakistan. And you didn't kick the Americans out of Afghanistan. Quite contrary to your claim, you provided the NATO coalition forces with logistic support in their invasion of Afghanistan. The people of Afghanistan fought the United States, not you.

NATO logistics in the Afghan War - Wikipedia

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If you could kick "super powers" (lol), you would've helped the people of Kashmir that are being massacred by the supa powa India.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Lol, But in Afghanistan, US was fighting with a group not whole country, Taliban run away and cross Pakistan border, after attacks. And in reality Taliban are fighting with Afghan Army not US. Total US causality are below 3000 in 20 years war and most of them in crash of Helicopters or Jet. If Pakistan tried proxy war with Israel, it will convert to full scale war by US and fate will be like Japan. Countries like India or Pakistan can not stand a single day. It will be good if Pakistan focus only India. I do not know why moderators allowed such silly thread.

Lol, what an idiot. You been living under rock all these years?

Listen to your own daddy America. Yanks have been tearing their hair out blaming Pakistan for supporting Taliban, Haqqani network and what not, and if Taliban were only fighting Kabul regime (which btw is yanks proxy), then why yanks have done peace deal with Taliban,without involving Kabul regime. They agreement is between two warring parties, Taliban and US.

Pakistan has screwed full fledged super powers and brought them down to their knees. Proxy wars is our speciality. And now under the protection of nuclear umbrella, it's more easy to conduct proxy wars in far distant lands. By comparison, Israel is a peace of cake.

Pay attention to what I said, it's not the capabilities but rather lack of understanding about the issues in holly lands which keep Pakistanis in general and state in particular, aloof to it.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan has screwed full fledged super powers and brought them down to their knees. Proxy wars is our speciality. And now under the protection of nuclear umbrella, it's more easy to conduct proxy wars in far distant lands. By comparison, Israel is a peace of cake.

So when is this cake going to be baked in peace?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Hezbollah - Israel war in 2000. Israeli forces left Southern Lebanon. The same Israel that defeated multiple Arab countries in 6 days was defeated by a group of militants in Lebanon.

South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Date	16 February 1985 – 25 May 2000
Location	Southern Lebanon
Result	Hezbollah victory[1] The collapse and surrender of the SLA and its South Lebanon security belt administration Israeli withdrawal from South Lebanon[2] Shebaa Farms conflict

You did next to nothing in the Soviet-Afghanistan war while Iran actively and openly supported Ahmad Shah Masoud. Saudi Arabia and Iran played a much bolder role in the Soviet-Afghanistan war than Pakistan. And you didn't kick the Americans out of Afghanistan. Quite contrary to your claim, you provided the NATO coalition forces with logistic support in their invasion of Afghanistan. The people of Afghanistan fought the United States, not you.

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NATO logistics in the Afghan War - Wikipedia

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If you could kick "super powers" (lol), you would've helped the people of Kashmir that are being massacred by the supa powa India.

Lol , that Lebanon war!! Its was a small skirmish where israel lay waste better half of Lebanon, and did not help in any shape of form the end of occupation. Isreal is still occupying territories, whereas our proxies completely and utterly kicked occupational forces from Afghanistan. Be it USSR and now USA.

Iran fought Afghan war???? Hahahahaha. What an idiot. LMAO. You trained Ahmed Shah Masood? LOL. I got news for you, both young Massod and Heykmatyar were trained in the school of special services group in Cherat, Pakistan, way before you Perians even knows as to what was going on in Afghanistan. Iran has always been Russians sugababy, you did diddly squat in first Afghan war, and you sided with yanks in second Afghan war as well, facilitating their occupation.

Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and fu** the prom queen.... Shaun Connery.

Enough said.

You Persian are too small, too insignificant to talk big. LOL

So when is this cake going to be baked in peace?

It depends on the Baker really if its in the mode of baking. At the moment, snoozing and sipping on "sattu".

Hope you got the answer?

 

[Arian]

Lol , that Lebanon war!! Its was a small skirmish where israel lay waste better half of Lebanon, and did not help in any shape of form the end of occupation. Isreal is still occupying territories, whereas our proxies completely and utterly kicked occupational forces from Afghanistan. Be it USSR and now USA.

Iran fought Afghan war???? Hahahahaha. What an idiot. LMAO. You trained Ahmed Shah Masood? LOL. I got news for you, both young Massod and Heykmatyar were trained in the school of special services group in Cherat, Pakistan, way before you Perians even knows as to what was going on in Afghanistan. Iran has always been Russians sugababy, you did diddly squat in first Afghan war, and you sided with yanks in second Afghan war as well, facilitating their occupation.

Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and fu** the prom queen.... Shaun Connery.

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Enough said.

You Persian are too small, too insignificant to talk big. LOL

Are you sure you want to call Persians small? Because last time I checked, the average height of Pakistani men is 167cm, compared to 173cm for Iranians. Why are you guys so short anyway? Malnutrition? Is that why you are bad at sports too? I suppose weakness and shortness suck. That's why you're such an angry, aggressive, little man.

Bark after you have defeated India. Nadir Shah defeated them in 3 hours, and you lost Bangladesh to those people?! Pathetic. lol

Hezbollah's victory against Israel was nothing short of a miracle, but wise words and facts are wasted on a bitter retard like you. So, welcome to my list of blocked people.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Are you sure you want to call Persians small? Because last time I checked, the average height of Pakistani men is 167cm, compared to 173cm for Iranians. Why are you guys so short anyway? Malnutrition? Is that why you are bad at sports too? I suppose weakness and shortness suck. That's why you're such an angry, aggressive, little man.

Bark after you have defeated India. Nadir Shah defeated them in 3 hours, and you lost Bangladesh to those people?! Pathetic. lol

Hezbollah's victory against Israel was nothing short of a miracle, but wise words and facts are wasted on a bitter retard like you. So, welcome to my list of blocked people.

Wikipedia aaeen? I am 6 foot, and I am shortest in my family and cousins. Our PM is 6'2 , army chiefs above 6'. I have lived in UK for decades, came across many Persians, and all of them were midgets. You are hardly a manly race. Rather deformed. Very week bone structures and your women spend more time in plastic surgery clinics then at their homes, I have screwed few. Sunshine, my little, just telling you from experience. You can honk at the non sense you want, you are insignificant little Persian, aka majoosi.

What do you think the land bigger then size of Switzerland called Azad Kashmir came from? Lol

You heros and big guys are getting smashed and droned right left and centre, in your land, and here you are showing extreme audacity! LMAO.

Go and bloody end the occupation in totality like Pakistani proxies have done and then come and talk.

 

[VCheng]

It depends on the Baker really if its in the mode of baking. At the moment, snoozing and sipping on "sattu".

Hope you got the answer?

Very red sattu, perhaps?

Let us see how Pakistan serves its national interests in this situation. My guess is by lots of words and not much else.