Opinion: Providing Firepower to Palestinian Resistance

[Imran Khan]

That is what happens when the leaders are busy making money and abandoning their priorities. Despite shortcomings Pakistan has the potential to make things right. Just because schools are today grazing ground for cattle doesn't mean we can act right and turn schools into schools.


What alternative do you propose? The same old? Yes, it is going to be almost impossible to bring sanity among thickhead leaders of Islamic nations. Shouldn't mean we should keep trying. The best option for all Islamic nations, rich and poor, is to cooperate. Economically, militarily and otherwise.

The alternative is Palestine.

people here acting like pakistna is some super power i think they want bakhshoo to be beaten badly let alone war a telephone from USA can put pakistan back to her place

 

[Paro_Peagus]

Hey guys, sorry for an off topic question, anyone knows about MuslimAid? Are the donations going into the right hands?

There is a red cross portal you can verify all legitimate NGO donations.

 

[Azadkashmir]

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[Imran Khan]

yes pak can progress and become beast but if the bas trds switch to printing their own currency and barter trade. throw imf /world bank out.

at least 100mn pakistanis will be die with this plan . its not stone age sir

 

[VCheng]

It's time Pakistani establishment and government grows balls and show guts and demand Egypt and Jordan to give us route to supply Palestinians with weapons with which they can unleash hell on Israel. It's very clear that Israel will use every chance to attack us through use of our neighbor India. It's time to return the favor and it's time to defend Qibla e Awwal.

Pakistan needs to equip the resistance with cruise missiles and other weapons and also help them improve their rockets and their speeds. Plus provide them with latest Anti Tank and other weapons. We have to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have some shame. I wonder with which face we are going to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW

One shayr to say it all:

 

[Darth Vader]

I would live to see you giving these pathetic excuses in front of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW. I really dare you to make these pathetic excuses in front of RASOOL SAW when Palestinians grab you by your collar. And you really need to study Islam. War is on you. It's on since Palestine and Kashmir got in enemies control. So please bother to learn Islam first.

I am more worried about Kashmiris grabbing my collar not Palestinians. Our country can't even get Kahmir back and you want us to travel to another side of the globe to wage war against Israel. Grow up. That is why i said Molvis have turned our brains into mush. We live in world of fantasies not reality. Muslims in their prime had money to finance their wars not stories. If you run into a soldier nowadays with just you faith he will put 20 bullets up your arse before you can even reach him. Allah also gave us brains so please use it for once.

Let's just forget the Finance issue look over the whole problem

1 What makes this a Pakistan problem? Palestine Spat in Pakistani Face and supported India not just recently that has always been the case.
2 Land Route Unless Pakistan is sending Warships how will you send supplies or anything through Arab countries will they openly allow this?
3 How this step will be taken by the international communities Israel has a strong lobby in the US and EU.
In the so-called War on Terror how many countries gave funding to Pakistan and weapons and intel. ( IT was uncle sam - they had their own agenda but besides China, and some Turkey support majority did nothing heck not even Said words of support Pakistani people were dying and beloved Muslim brothers DIDNT GIVE A FLYING F***)
4 Did any country send its soldiers to fight TTP or for Pakistan?
What Makes Pakistan so special that they have to fight for everyone.
5 Every Major Issue in the last 60 years regarding Muslims, Pakistan has been involved directly or indirectly.
Which has only caused a problem for Pakistan instead of building international relations.


The Best thing Pakistan can do for Pakistan & Other Countries is to build its Economy & Military power , Muscle flexing will only work when Pakistan has strong trade with other countries and have money in the bank to support its ambitions. Pakistan is a 200 mil+ country but doesn't get treated like one.

 

[Dalit]

people here acting like pakistna is some super power i think they want bakhshoo to be beaten badly let alone war a telephone from USA can put pakistan back to her place

You are still not understanding what I am saying. Islamic nations have to work together. Pakistan, Iran, KSA and all others.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

mixed grill for me. and for you some halal pint and sausages with gravy. enjoy

Will do. If I have left over I will share with you. I quite like halal sausages. Had these in Turkey first time but now you can buy these in local shops.

 

[Genghis khan1]

It's time Pakistani establishment and government grows balls and show guts and demand Egypt and Jordan to give us route to supply Palestinians with weapons with which they can unleash hell on Israel. It's very clear that Israel will use every chance to attack us through use of our neighbor India. It's time to return the favor and it's time to defend Qibla e Awwal.

Pakistan needs to equip the resistance with cruise missiles and other weapons and also help them improve their rockets and their speeds. Plus provide them with latest Anti Tank and other weapons. We have to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have some shame. I wonder with which face we are going to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW

How about start from Kashmir. Islamically, Pakistan has a responsibility for Kashmir before any distant land.

 

[Arian]

On a serious note you Iranians are real thick baskets. Honestly. As I approach 60 one thing I can say I have wisened up with is that in this world there is no such thing as "the truth". Or in fact "the justice". These are shaped by those who can. This is as true in Pakistan, as UK or any place. For instance a poor, vulnerable person will get screwed over in Pakistan as much as in UK.

Look at Iran. You and Israel are hostile foes. Israel uses it's entire influence to screw Iran by having Europe and America go after Iran for no reason. Iran has been painted as the axis of evil. For what? Because you thick baskets keep on cursing Israel. But so does Pakistan. But you guys actually support groups in Lebanon and Palestine that actually cause harm to Israel.

So tell me what you get out of being the avengers of justice on behalf of the Palestnian people? Most of the Arabs actually despise you. Saudi royalty is on record saying they want "the head of the snake" chopped off. Saudia, UAE would make alliance with Israel and USA to wipe out Iran. In this very forum you will be called "Irani mullahs".

So what does this get you? Nothing.

Ps. I am glad Pakistan unlike Iran plays clever. Just makes a few statements about Israel "we condemn" etc and then go back eating pilau with lashings of yougurt. As has already happened. Then life goes on like it will.

@Arian

There are two things that you are ignoring now:

1. The Persian-Arab animosity and rivalry have existed for a long time, even during the time of the Shah. In modern history, the only time that Iran and Arabs (people of Arabia) had peaceful ties based on mutual respect was at the time of King Faisal, who was eventually assassinated.

2. Not all Arab rulers represent the opinion of their countries. Bahrain, for example, has extreme anti-Iran sentiments as a regime, but the people of Bahrain remain one of the friendliest Arab countries towards Iran and Iranians.

Israel itself is not the main issue. Israel is a symbol of Western interference in the region. If it weren't for them, Israel itself couldn't have lasted a year in our region. As long as the western inference in the Middle East remains an issue, no country in the region will become powerful. Sure, you can build superficial luxurious buildings with the money of trading with them, but they will not allow you to grow independent of them. That's pretty much text-book colonialism.

I hear this bullshat all the time. I really like Iranians and had friends from Tehran in university about just about the time of revolution in 1979. But let me tell you. A typical Pakistan will chew a Iranian by his ar*se. The only reason you guys can feed yourselfs and brag like Saudi's is you have black gold and sweet gas. What you export as $10 profit we have to buy as $10 billion loss. If we had the oil and gas today Pakistan would have been third or fourth most potent global power. We actually have to work to make a living and not survive off oil/gas like Iran, Saudia, Kuwait etc.

Given the staggering oil wealth you got since 1950s Iran should have been the Germany of West Asia. Instead ....

Your argument would've held merit for a short period of time from 1971 to 1980 and then from 1990 to 2009. Before early 1970s, oil was so underpriced that oil exporting nations were all poor. After the revolution, the truth is that the Iraq-Iran war damaged our oil infrastructure so much that our oil production dropped from 5 million barrels a day to 1 million barrels a day. Take into account Iran's baby boom in 1980s and you will see that Iran's oil income per capita never recovered from the war until early 2000s.

But your argument is completely baseless now. Iran does not rely on oil and gas exports as much as it did before 2009. Trump sanctions reduced our oil exports to less than 300K barrels per day and our economy didn't collapse. For the first time in modern history of Iran, our non-oil exports surpassed our oil exports in 2018 or 2019 (I don't remember the exact year). Also, Iranians are very hard working people too, maybe even more than Pakistanis. Compare Iranian diaspora to Pakistani diaspora and you will see how wrong your argument is. Iranian diaspora do not have any oil to sell, instead they work really hard and are well-educated.

And sanctions are a temporary solution. Either it will lead to an all out war like the US invasion of Iraq (which is unlikely) or they will become useless after a few years and then they will be forced to accept the new reality. The later scenario is more probable than the former one in my opinion. They imposed sanctions on China too, and look where China is now.

 

[Dalit]

How about start from Kashmir. Islamically, Pakistan has a responsibility for Kashmir before any distant land.

When you work collectively you stand stronger together. When the EU and the US demand action they don't do things unilaterally. They work as a unit. Even when they invade nations. They trade together. They have intertwined economies. They have military alliances. Their interests are shared. They pressure and blackmail nations in unison. You think Western progress and development was achieved individually? They had a leader in the shape of USA. The Western countries emulate their role model and leader US.

Kashmir and Palestine won't be served on a plate. One half is military intervention. The other is collective diplomatic, political and economic pressure. In this world even enemies depend on each other.

Unity among Islamic nations means a strong bloc with influence. Influence is half the power you need to achieve your objectives.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Let's just forget the Finance issue look over the whole problem

I personally think @Zarvan might have a point. Why not we all sponsor Zarvan to go to Palestine and join the brothers there fighting the invaders. He could then send daily vlogs back to PDF. This might inspire rest of us and wider ummah to join in this jihad.

What do they say? Action speak louder than words.

1. The Persian-Arab animosity and rivalry have existed for a long time, even during the time of the Shah. In modern history, the only time that Iran and Arabs had peaceful ties based on mutual respect was at the time of King Faisal that was eventually assassinated.

I am well aware of the historical Arab/Persian rivalry. As my Iranian mate [probably dead now as he went back in 1980 and probably was drafted] used to say. Why do you think god sent all the prophets [pbuh] to Arabia? Because they were so hopeless.

 

[Imran Khan]

You are still not understanding what I am saying. Islamic nations have to work together. Pakistan, Iran, KSA and all others.

and you did not understand the reality sir . reality is these countries are fighting each other today .

turkey vs UAE
turkey vs KSA
turkey vs egypt
iran vs UAE
iran vs KSA
iran vs egypt
iran vs bahrain
saudi vs yemen
yemen vs yemen
syria vs syria
libya vs libya
iraq vs iran
iraq vs iraq
afghanistan vs pakistan
turkey vs turkey
turkey vs iran
uae vs yemen
sudan vs yemen
algeria vs morroco
morroco vs morroco
turkey vs syria
syria vs iraq
jordan vs syria
palestine vs pelastine


ap konsy khawab main so rahy thy sir ? dont you see ME is burning since 2003 ?

 

[Genghis khan1]

I am more worried about Kashmiris grabbing my collar not Palestinians. Our country cant even get Kahmir back and you want us to travel to other side of globe to wage war against Israel. Grow up. That is why i said Molvis have turned our brains into mush. We live in world of fantasies not reality. Muslims in their prime had money to finance their wars not stories. If you run into a soldier nowadays with just you faith he will put 20 bullets up your arse before you can even reach him. Allah also gave us brains so please use it for once.

Exactly, Dania asbab sy hy. You cannot show up to exam day unprepared, think raat ko tahjud per li thi. A grade tu paka.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Its funny and sad at the same time how all the Sunni states have thrown the Palestinians under the bus.