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Why hasnt that so called evidence made public?

Because the current pak gov't's policy, as well as last gov't, is to seek good relations with india. And the current Pak gov't has upped the ante in that regards, as Nawaz not only is focusing on cordial relations with India but also business oriented ones.

With that in mind, it's totally against the Pakistani gov't's foreign and national policy to accuse India publicly of any terrorism inside Pakistan or being an accessory to any rogue terrorist group working against Pakistan, even if the proof is staring them in the eyes. So yes, India does have a leg up on Pakistan in that regards.
 
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An Eyewitness Account of Pakistan's War in North Waziristan
Sailab Mehsud


Amid indications that a major military offensive was going to unfold, I attempted to slip into the North Waziristan tribal region earlier this month.

I wanted to report on what really goes on during a military operation in Pakistan's northwestern Federally Administered Tribal Areas, located along the border with Afghanistan, which are often inaccessible to local and foreign journalists because of security conditions and government restrictions.

As I expected, soldiers manning one of the first checkposts outside the northwestern Pakistani city of Bannu stopped me from going to Mir Ali, the first major town in North Waziristan, some 40 kilometers west of Bannu.

They told me that they cannot let me go into a war zone because they will not be able to provide security, and if I am killed the army will be criticized inside the country and internationally.

This forced me and a couple of local journalist friends to sneak into North Waziristan on June 10. We stayed in a small village near Mir Ali for two days, and then moved into North Waziristan's administrative center, Miran Shah, 25 kilometers west of Mir Ali.

On June 15, our fifth day in North Waziristan, the government announced the formal beginning of a "comprehensive operation" against militants in the mountainous region. Security forces imposed a round-the-clock curfew, and so we were forced to stay in a village close to the town of Miran Shah.

We observed the first five days of "Operation Zarb-e-Azb," named by the army after a sword belonging to the Prophet Muhammad.

For years, Islamabad resisted calls by Washington and its allies to cleanse the region of the Afghan Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and an assortment of Central Asian militants who had carved out a sanctuary in North Waziristan.

The current operation, however, has so far failed to convince North Waziristan's residents that Islamabad is sincere or capable of ridding the region from local and foreign extremists. For them, the offensive only represents unspeakable misery and suffering.

The operation was apparently concentrated in a 60-kilometer stretch between Mir Ali and the village of Datta Khel, west of Miran Shah. Pakistani troops were visible everywhere in this region, but more surprising was the presence of Taliban who appeared to be unaffected by the military operation and were visible everywhere.

On June 17, the seventh day of our stay in North Waziristan, we decided to move west to try to cross into neighboring South Waziristan through Shawal, an alpine region that joins the the two parts of Waziristan.

The local Taliban offered to provide protection, and we traveled with them. Again the Taliban were present everywhere, and they had even established checkposts on some of the roads. It is safe to say that the territory between Datta Khel and Shawal, a 60- kilometer road journey, was more or less controlled by the Taliban because there were no troops and no government presence.

Shawal, a series of remote, forested valleys that spans the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, is completely controlled by Taliban factions that are active in the two countries.

The Taliban told us that their fighters were ready to join Hafiz Gul Bahadar and Maulvi Sadiq Noor, two prominent Taliban leaders in North Waziristan, if they decided to resist the Pakistani army offensive in the region.

Contrary to what is reported in Pakistani and Western press about North Waziristan, we saw no evidence of Central Asian militants associated with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, or Arabs loyal to Al-Qaeda.

We tried hard to probe the impact of Pakistani air strikes. In interviews with dozens of North Waziristan residents, including those in villages targeted by sorties, it became apparent that few militants were killed in the aerial bombing strikes, and most victims were civilians.

The Pakistani army claims to have killed nearly 400 militants in North Waziristan in air strikes that began on May 21.

The humanitarian crisis inside North Waziristan is largely hidden from the outside world. So far, nearly half a million residents have fled the offensive. Some have moved west into the southeastern Afghan provinces of Khost and Paktika, while others have gone east to Bannu and other regions in Pakistan.

The massive displacement makes North Waziristan civilians the main losers in the Pakistani offensive. "This situation is deteriorating fast," Shadim Khan, a tribal leader, told RFE/RL's Radio Mashaal. "You can see the misery written on everyone's face here."
http://gandhara.rferl.org/content/no.../25432114.html

The time of reckoning for Hafiz Gul Bahadur's band of criminals will come too.
 
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Why hasnt that so called evidence made public ? Probably because there is none except the likes of smokescreen created recently about the medicines found on Karachi attackers (that later turned out was legally imported and sold in Pakistan) or some earlier nonsense about uncircumcised terrorist bodies found in Pakistani COIN Ops


@Chak Bamu

So let's see here. You guys talk about Pakistan making the evidence public. Yet all your "evidence" against ISI remains confidential, and we're supposed to believe your stories about ISI supporting xyz. It's not hard to figure out then that the only states that lap up officially to your stories are Afghanistan and Israel.
 
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Operation Zarb-e-Azb Update:

15 June 2014 (150 terrorists killed | 3 soldiers injured | 1 civilian killed, 1 injured)

=> 140 terrorists ,mostly Uzbeks, were killed when PAF jets targeted 8 militant hideouts in Degan & Boya areas of Dattakhel Tehsil.
Source: ISPR

=> Three soldiers were injured in an IED explosion followed by firing by terrorists in Mir Ali Tehsil.
Sources: ISPR / Dawn

=> 7 fleeing terrorists were killed on the outskirts of Mir Ali while as In a separate sniper action by Special Service Group 3 terrorists were killed, while laying IEDs close to Miranshah. Source: ISPR

=> In Miranshah, security forces opened fire at civilians for violating the curfew. One civilian was killed and another suffered injuries. Source: Dawn

16 June 2014 (37 terrorists killed | 8 soldiers martyred, 4 others injured)

=> Airstrikes targeted six militant hideouts in Shawal area killing 27 terrorists. Source: AP

=> 6 soldiers embraced martyrdom while 3 were injured due to an IED explosion between Afghan border and Ghulam Khan Tehsil of NWA. Source: ISPR

=> In Mir Ali, 7 Terrorists were killed in exchange of fire when trying to flee from cordoned off area. 2 soldiers also embraced martyrdom. Sources: ISPR / Dawn

=> 3 terrorists were killed while fleeing from the cordoned off area in Miranshah. 1 soldier got injured in exchange of fire. Source:ISPR

17 June 2014 (25 terrorists killed)

=> Around Hasokhel area of Mir Ali, 6 Terrorist’s hideouts including a training camp and an IED making factory were destroyed in airstrikes by jet aircraft. 25 terrorists were killed. Source: ISPR

18 June 2014 (15 terrorists killed)

=> 15 terrorists were killed in Zartatangi mountain heights (east of Miranshah) by Army's Cobra gunship helicopters when they were spotted. Source: ISPR

19 June 2014* (8 terrorists killed)

=> In sniper action, 8 Uzbek terrorists were killed around Miranshah while planting IEDs on Miranshah - Mir Ali road. Source: ISPR

20 June 2014 (12 terrorists killed)

=> 3 terrorist hideouts in Qutab Khel area (on the outskirts of Miranshah) were destroyed by Army's Cobra gunship helicopters. 12 Terrorists including foreigners were killed. Source: ISPR

21 June 2014 (20 terrorists killed)

=> At 5:00 a.m., Pakistani fighter jets targeted 3 terrorist hideouts in Hassu Khel area of North Waziristan Agency killing 20 terrorists. Source: ISPR

23 June 2014 (25 terrorists killed, 2 soldiers martyred)

=> 8 terrorist hideouts around Mir Ali area of North Waziristan Agency were destroyed by jet aircraft early in the morning killing 15 terrorists. Tunnels were spotted in the targeted areas. Source: ISPR

=> 10 terrorists were killed while trying to flee from the cordoned off area in Spinwam and Mir Ali areas of North Waziristan Agency. 2 soldiers were also martyred in the exchange of fire. Source: ISPR

24 June 2014 (27 terrorists killed | 2 soldiers martyred | 1 civilian killed)

=> 27 terrorists were killed in jet aircraft strikes in Mir Ali and surroundings areas in the afternoon. 11 terrorist hideouts were destroyed. Source: ISPR

=> A vehicle borne suicide attack attempt was foiled in Spinwam area of North Waziristan Agency in the afternoon.A single cabin explosive laden vehicle tried to approach a checkpost outside a civil hospital when soldiers on duty spotted and fired at the vehicle. The vehicle exploded 100 meters short of the checkpost. 2 soldiers were martyred when the roof of a nearby building collapsed due to the explosion. A civilian also died in the incident. Source: ISPR
 
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It's ALLAH swt gift to your familly, that your brother have this honnor to be part of Zarb-e-Azb, may ALLAH swt keep him safe, in cha ALLAH.
Operation Zarb-e-Azb Update:

15 June 2014 (150 terrorists killed, 3 soldiers injured)

=> 140 terrorists ,mostly Uzbeks, were killed when PAF jets targeted 8 militant hideouts in Degan & Boya areas of Dattakhel Tehsil.
Source: ISPR

=> Three soldiers were injured in an IED explosion followed by firing by terrorists in Mir Ali Tehsil.
Sources: ISPR / Dawn

=> 7 fleeing terrorists were killed on the outskirts of Mir Ali while as In a separate sniper action by Special Service Group 3 terrorists were killed, while laying IEDs close to Miranshah. Source: ISPR

16 June 2014 (37 terrorists killed | 8 soldiers martyred, 4 others injured)

=> Airstrikes targeted six militant hideouts in Shawal area killing 27 terrorists. Source: AP

=> 6 soldiers embraced martyrdom while 3 were injured due to an IED explosion between Afghan border and Ghulam Khan Tehsil of NWA. Source: ISPR

=> In Mir Ali, 7 Terrorists were killed in exchange of fire when trying to flee from cordoned off area. 2 soldiers also embraced martyrdom. Sources: ISPR / Dawn

=> 3 terrorists were killed while fleeing from the cordoned off area in Miranshah. 1 soldier got injured in exchange of fire. Source:ISPR

17 June 2014 (25 terrorists killed)

=> Around Hasokhel area of Mir Ali, 6 Terrorist’s hideouts including a training camp and an IED making factory were destroyed in airstrikes by jet aircraft. 25 terrorists were killed. Source: ISPR

18 June 2014 (15 terrorists killed)

=> 15 terrorists were killed in Zartatangi mountain heights (east of Miranshah) by Army's Cobra gunship helicopters when they were spotted. Source: ISPR

19 June 2014* (8 terrorists killed)

=> In sniper action, 8 Uzbek terrorists were killed around Miranshah while planting IEDs on Miranshah - Mir Ali road. Source: ISPR

20 June 2014 (12 terrorists killed)

=> 3 terrorist hideouts in Qutab Khel area (on the outskirts of Miranshah) were destroyed by Army's Cobra gunship helicopters. 12 Terrorists including foreigners were killed. Source: ISPR

21 June 2014 (20 terrorists killed)

=> At 5:00 a.m., Pakistani fighter jets targeted 3 terrorist hideouts in Hassu Khel area of North Waziristan Agency killing 20 terrorists. Source: ISPR

23 June 2014 (25 terrorists killed, 2 soldiers martyred)

=> 8 terrorist hideouts around Mir Ali area of North Waziristan Agency were destroyed by jet aircraft early in the morning killing 15 terrorists. Tunnels were spotted in the targeted areas. Source: ISPR

=> 10 terrorists were killed while trying to flee from the cordoned off area in Spinwam and Mir Ali areas of North Waziristan Agency. 2 soldiers were also martyred in the exchange of fire. Source: ISPR

24 June 2014 (27 terrorists killed | 2 soldiers martyred | 1 civilian killed)

=> 27 terrorists were killed in jet aircraft strikes in Mir Ali and surroundings areas in the afternoon. 11 terrorist hideouts were destroyed. Source: ISPR

=> A vehicle borne suicide attack attempt was foiled in Spinwam area of North Waziristan Agency in the afternoon.A single cabin explosive laden vehicle tried to approach a checkpost outside a civil hospital when soldiers on duty spotted and fired at the vehicle. The vehicle exploded 100 meters short of the checkpost. 2 soldiers were martyred when the roof of a nearby building collapsed due to the explosion. A civilian also died in the incident. Source: ISPR

ye **** hain kitnay :S muk he nahe rahay
 
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So let's see here. You guys talk about Pakistan making the evidence public. Yet all your "evidence" against ISI remains confidential, and we're supposed to believe your stories about ISI supporting xyz. It's not hard to figure out then that the only states that lap up officially to your stories are Afghanistan and Israel.
I dont think anyone in Indian Govt has accused Pakistani Govt of sending terrorists into India. The accusations are that these are Paksitani citizens who are performing terrorist activities in India and the proof for that has been shared with all countries and has been made public.

I havent seen any such proof emerging from Pakistan against Indians

ye **** hain kitnay :S muk he nahe rahay

Only 3 possibilities

1. There are shit load of terrorists in Pakistan
2. The numbers given by ISPR are fake
3. A lot of collateral damage is being counted as militant deaths (As per a news item today, a lot of old folks in NW have not been evacuated and have been left behind)
 
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Every Pakistani Soldier is under our prayers bro ... I wish your brother all the very best , and i will definitely pray for his return As ghazi aur As Shaheed .. ... Shaheed kabhi marta nai ...i consider him my brother as well .. wish him all the best .. if you ever get a chance to talk tell him .. to kick those bastards out of our land ... may Allah protect him
 
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