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Operation in Swat - Pakistan's Stalingrad

we all know how important this operation is. it has become a do or die thing. we have only two options; either win this war or learn to live the taliban way.

but i have got a question. why is army using artillary and y not more man power???

this is simple mate, to have minimum casualties. it is not out of fear or pakthoon backclash stuff as my other indian frined put in. plus a rocket can be more detremential than a bulet

the strategy is the same what US did in early part of Iraq and Afghanisan incursions to face minimum soldier losses.(lets learn something from the past and vietnam)
 
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Only one thing PAFAce, there has been no increase in troops level on Indian side. It was all a direct result of media campaign I guess. That is all.

You may be correct. There may not have been an increase in the troops stationed near the border in offensive positions. However, there were definitely troop movements to the border region for ostensive
"exercises", in particular by the IAF and the IA Armoured forces. There was also a breach of airspace, twice in the same day, if you remember. Therefore, if you claim that Pakistan Armed Force response was based simply on media hype created in the two nations, I'm sorry, I respectfully disagree. It was based on calculated assessment of Indian intentions.

Now that things appear to be cooling, the Indians should reverse this situation and allow the Pakistani Armed Forces to deal with the root cause of our mutual problems. Once again, however, I will state that there are those in India who do not see great benefit in decreasd tensions between the two nations.
 
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You may be correct. There may not have been an increase in the troops stationed near the border in offensive positions. However, there were definitely troop movements to the border region for ostensive
"exercises", in particular by the IAF and the IA Armoured forces. There was also a breach of airspace, twice in the same day, if you remember. Therefore, if you claim that Pakistan Armed Force response was based simply on media hype created in the two nations, I'm sorry, I respectfully disagree. It was based on calculated assessment of Indian intentions.

Now that things appear to be cooling, the Indians should reverse this situation and allow the Pakistani Armed Forces to deal with the root cause of our mutual problems. Once again, however, I will state that there are those in India who do not see great benefit in decreasd tensions between the two nations.


You may have justification in what you posted. But am sure with the recent hardening of stance on behalf of GoP and PA vis-s-vis Talibs et al, there shall be a perceptible change in policy orientation towards Pakistan and more so if the same level of cooperation is extended in J&K or atleast a status quo in the level of cooperation between the two countries in the latter years of Musharrafs rule continues. GoI recognises that zero crossover into J&K even you cant ensure. But GoP has played a major role in being able to limit them and that has been appreciated. With the present posturing being done by GoP, the right signals and messages have been sent.

There is a lot of misconception about indian "cold start" doctrine and as such I think that may be the contributing factor, plus the analysis of news like "India validates its Cold Start Doctrine" and the upcoming Integrated Battle Groups etc etc. This I got the impression from another thread where a poster Kasrkin I think, had some views over it.

I think what you have to understand is that cold start is there, no doubt, but it does not mean we can wage war without moving troops from their peace time locations immediateely. As such the strike corps troops were in their original locations and would have taken a week or two minimal to move.

It was a part of diplomatic pressure being beared upon Pakistan to act decisively, which it has finally done now. You remember lots of US and UK politicians warning Pakistan that India was hours away from launching strikes. That was all a part of policy. Its not a joke and Pakistan is not some rag-tag militia. Period.

Post elections if BJP was to come in power, then you shall definitely see decisive steps taken to address all pertinent issues inclusive of Kashmir, and a more proactive role in form of greater support to you for your efforts against terror. Its the only party which has the necessary standing to force settlements and make the general public accept them primarily due to their hardline approach. The same was almost done when LoC was almost declared as the boundary under Vajpayee ..... that would have put the final nail into Kashmir issue forever.

Lets wait and watch:cheers:
 
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Post elections if BJP was to come in power, then you shall definitely see decisive steps taken to address all pertinent issues inclusive of Kashmir, and a more proactive role in form of greater support to you for your efforts against terror. Its the only party which has the necessary standing to force settlements and make the general public accept them primarily due to their hardline approach. The same was almost done when LoC was almost declared as the boundary under Vajpayee ..... that would have put the final nail into Kashmir issue forever.

Lets wait and watch:cheers:

They bring their share of trouble with them as well. They try to saffronize the education system, push hindutva among numerous other things. And frankly, that was Vajpayee, im not sure i want an Advani or a Modi as my PM. Again, Vajpayee was different.
 
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