Only 52 trains operative, Senate told

[Not Sure]

Not only that. Indian and Pakistani Railway Systems are based off the same standards. Decent railway infrastructure in Pakistan could be a huge bane for Indo-Pak trade.

No, exactly the opposite!

It will be a big boon for Indo-Pak trade.

Better railway services in Pakistan would mean timely delivery of large amount of goods and result in lower loss of capital from bad debts. In fact, there should be more and more functional trains in Pakistan to help move Pakistani and Indian goods everywhere without clogging the roadways.

Once Pakistani goods start amassing in Amritsar, even Indians will need to expand the railway yard there. Of somewhat lower magnitude, but still significant, trade will be seen between Baramulla and Muzaffarabad. And if managed well, it can help lower the tension on that highly volatile border.

 

[T90TankGuy]

Not only that. Indian and Pakistani Railway Systems are based off the same standards. Decent railway infrastructure in Pakistan could be a huge bane for Indo-Pak trade.

Unfortunately, we struggle to manage our own railway infrastructure. Can't really afford to invest in Pakistan

Think you meant boon.

the fact is that Pakistan can benefit from our knowledge on the subject . and if we have transit permission think of the possibilities!!!!!
but alas this is India and Pakistan we are talking about . peace and friendship seem a distant dream .

 

[arp2041]

Some times I feel We should revive Pak railway in return for something of same value. After all it's lifeline of any country's transportation system.

Nope not a good Idea, Indian railways itself is in it's own set of troubles, the issue of security, cleanliness, passenger friendliness & other issues comes up time & again. The profit of Indian Railways has also somewhat decreased over time. We have our own targets to achieve like building High Speed Trains, better connectivity all over India, etc.

In such a scenario why should IR be burdened with Pakistani Railways?? I am sorry to be blunt here but India wasn't responsible for sorry state of affairs of Pakistani Railways than why should it be a part of it's revival story?? Instead, why not try to make Indian railways a world class railways.

 

[INDIC]

No, exactly the opposite!

It will be a big boon for Indo-Pak trade.

Better railway services in Pakistan would mean timely delivery of large amount of goods and result in lower loss of capital from bad debts. In fact, there should be more and more functional trains in Pakistan to help move Pakistani and Indian goods everywhere without clogging the roadways.

Once Pakistani goods start amassing in Amritsar, even Indians will need to expand the railway yard there. Of somewhat lower magnitude, but still significant, trade will be seen between Baramulla and Muzaffarabad. And if managed well, it can help lower the tension on that highly volatile border.

Pakistan first need to revive freight transport the major source of income. While India is moving with ambitious Dedicated Freight Corridors, Pakistan is have only 5 freight trains.

 

[ILLUMINATO]

Nope not a good Idea, Indian railways itself is in it's own set of troubles, the issue of security, cleanliness, passenger friendliness & other issues comes up time & again. The profit of Indian Railways has also somewhat decreased over time. We have our own targets to achieve like building High Speed Trains, better connectivity all over India, etc.

In such a scenario why should IR be burdened with Pakistani Railways?? I am sorry to be blunt here but India wasn't responsible for sorry state of affairs of Pakistani Railways than why should it be a part of it's revival story?? Instead, why not try to make Indian railways a world class railways.

Exactly !!No need go soft on Pakistan.On one hand Pakistanies are planning Gazwa-e-Hind and on other hand few Indians are willing to lend helping hand to them.Only god knows how many more invasions from our western boarders need to change the tolerant mind-set of masses.

 

[Tangent]

...Pakistan don't need trains...It is investing heavily on road networks.
Actually, it should close Railways and free the land for roads or other infrastructural work like done in Middle Eastern countries.
What is the fun in running 52 trains, with many without tickets,
Gov. can sell the land and this money can repay the loans.... What is the point in keeping the non-performing giant in. Instead close it and move forward.

 

[RISING SUN]

Nope not a good Idea, Indian railways itself is in it's own set of troubles, the issue of security, cleanliness, passenger friendliness & other issues comes up time & again. The profit of Indian Railways has also somewhat decreased over time. We have our own targets to achieve like building High Speed Trains, better connectivity all over India, etc.

In such a scenario why should IR be burdened with Pakistani Railways?? I am sorry to be blunt here but India wasn't responsible for sorry state of affairs of Pakistani Railways than why should it be a part of it's revival story?? Instead, why not try to make Indian railways a world class railways.

@arp2041 buddy Where did I said that India was or is responsible for sorry state of Pakistan Railway. What I am saying it that we should help them but only in return for some thing of same value. It seems a distant dream, but is it really! We are getting attacked day in & day out by the very same people. We have not done anything except some hip hip hurrey halla gulla in past 20 years(my memory only goes till that time considering I am going to be 24 year old in August end). Did it stopped attacks? Hell no. So should not we try that route also. Just think about it. @KRAIT bhai your thoughts are also invited(must).

 

[KRAIT]

@RISING SUN Remember one thing, a nation don't help in development of other nation which is their enemy. I know its not morally correct but we are not living in perfect world.

 

[Arav_Rana]

1 thing i never stand as Pakistan shares a very strong bond with China then why Pakistan does not suck China technologies. Pakistan has problem with us, with some other countries, that's fine but China is strong ally. China is doing great in every technological and development field. Pakistan should use China expertise.

 

[Backbencher]

@KRAIT , @RISING SUN :- I think GOI should help Pakistan in rails department and for the return gift ask Pakistan government to open their economy to Indian companies .

Agar kisi ne history padhi ho to after the end of world war 2 ; Europe went bankrupt . Then USA gave the europeans heavy loans and other stuff in order to bring back their economy to a stable condition so that it could gain the trust of europeans and secondly it could find huge profits for the economy back home .

I guess we certainly lack economically thinking minds in this forum .

 

[INDIC]

@ Krait , Rising sun :- I think GOI should help Pakistan in rails department and for the return gift ask Pakistan government to open their economy to Indian companies .

Agar kisi ne history padhi ho to after the end of world war 2 ; Europe went bankrupt . Then USA gave the europeans heavy loans and other stuff in order to bring back their economy to a stable condition so that it could gain the trust of europeans and secondly it could find huge profits for the economy back home .

I guess we certainly lack economically thinking minds in this forum .

Helping Pakistan to revive their economy won't help us. Assets like Railways are even used by Army so we should not help them to revive their Railways.

 

[Backbencher]

1 thing i never stand as Pakistan shares a very strong bond with China then why Pakistan does not suck China technologies. Pakistan has problem with us, with some other countries, that's fine but China is strong ally. China is doing great in every technological and development field. Pakistan should use China expertise.

70 % of the Pakistanis mainly villagers dont even recognise a country by the name of China similarly 70 % of the Indians mainly villagers wont know that their exists a country by the name of Israel .
The point is China and Pakistan are NOT ALLIES infact China likes to walk its path all alone .
China and Pakistan shares mutual gains , profits . China helps Pakistan for gaining money cause they have found a country which is itself opening up its economy completely to the Chinese and secondly to contain India diplomatically to a certain extent .

Helping Pakistan to revive their economy won't help us.

It will help us in the long run agar table pe Kaungressis ki jagah Modi ko baitha do .

 

[INDIC]

It will help us in the long run agar table pe Kaungressis ki jagah Modi ko baitha do .

Please explain, how? because economically stronger Pakistan will always try to harm India.

 

[Backbencher]

Please explain, how? because economically stronger Pakistan will always try to harm India.

Economically stronger Pakistan ?
For the second part refer to above posts .

 

[INDIC]

Economically stronger Pakistan ?
For the second part refer to above posts .

Yes, I read it. they will take favor from us and then throw India out of Pakistan's market. Don't you remember they did the same with MFN thing

Pakistan could not increase her defence budget because of bad economy where most of the budget went in paying back the IMF debt left little for other things. If we help them to revive their economy, Pakistan will use the same boom against us.