One Child Policy of China and lessons for South Asian nations

[terranMarine]

List of famines in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One can argue about denying freedom to have more than 1 child. But if you look at the the table and see the history of China's famine and the death toll you might reconsider it's not such a bad idea afterall. No birth control would escalate to African situation. Millions of death caused by drought something one easily forget when you want to argue about this issue.

 

[Yeti]

Kerala is the model to follow for India's birth control problem

 

[INDIAISM]

To be frank i am not against this policy..i am against the way this policy has been implemented....what i mean is that it would have been alot better if instead of forcing this policy on public..they would have provided incentives to the people who follow this policy like

A}Tax concession
B}Eligibility creteria for Govt Jobs-citizens who follow this policy should only be eligible for govt jobs...
C}Free Education and free healthcare benifits for the child whoose parent who follow this policy...

 

[Hello_10]

one child policy implemented through forced abortions can be termed as genocide.abortion bears a huge mental and emotional effect on moms.One child policy should not be encouraged as a forced govt. policy it should be voluntarily implemented by couples.Like in india majority educated/middle and upper middle class families right from 1980s decade voluntarily implemented 2 child policy.

and right now overly populated Pakistan is full of target killings, too many mouth and no resources to feed them. isn't it 'genocide'? its the worse to see people dying without dignity than controlling population by force...

and then majority educated Indians will simply leave India, similar to how Pakistan's educated class just want to run from Pakistan as now Pakistan is not a country to live anymore, if someone has option to move somewhere? then here, why would we mess the native place of ours, but dont try to make it better? why would India become a bigger threat to world in future this way?

 

[Hello_10]

To be frank i am not against this policy..i am against the way this policy has been implemented....what i mean is that it would have been alot better if instead of forcing this policy on public..they would have provided incentives to the people who follow this policy like

A}Tax concession
B}Eligibility creteria for Govt Jobs-citizens who follow this policy should only be eligible for govt jobs...
C}Free Education and free healthcare benifits for the child whoose parent who follow this policy...

List of famines in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One can argue about denying freedom to have more than 1 child. But if you look at the the table and see the history of China's famine and the death toll you might reconsider it's not such a bad idea afterall. No birth control would escalate to African situation. Millions of death caused by drought something one easily forget when you want to argue about this issue.

for example of Pakistan and Bangladesh, right now overly populated Pakistan is full of target killings, too many mouth and no resources to feed them. its similar to 'genocide' itself? and Bangladeshis just want to run from Bangladesh, mainly to India. its the worse to see people dying without dignity than controlling population by force........

and after a level of mess in India, then majority educated Indians will simply leave India, similar to how Pakistan's educated class just want to run from Pakistan as now Pakistan/Bangladesh is not the countries to live anymore, if someone has option to move somewhere? then here, why would we mess the native place of ours, but dont try to make it better? why would India become a bigger threat to world in future than Pakistan and overly populated Bangladesh this way?

 

[Hello_10]

many economists of India advocate "food security"/ "free medicines"/ "right to get a job" etc in India which is not possible until the Indian government may control its population. they simply can't feed 1.2bil population from the limited natural resources they have . USA is 3 times bigger in area than India but population of India is 4 times to USA? and on the top of that, Indian government wants to give welfare/ heavy subsidies to its people? if India face a sudden fall like ASEAN in late 90s and South America like in 80s, all these they will have to withdraw after that so better they keep habit to live in less and get rid off the unnecessary subsidies/welfares . about 5 months before, Pakistan increased petrol and diesel prices by around 10 rupees each when oil price was high as they can't afford to give subsidies while the people of Pakistan are poorer than India but Indian government is hesitating to do so? but the day they will reach level of Pakistan, just one good economic fall is required, and India will learn all by themselves.

only those countries may may feed their people for nothing/ give subsidies and welfare who may control their population which isnt true in case of India. until Indian government can't reduce its population, it can't feed its people for nothing and have welfare/ subsidies

 

[Sasquatch]

A one child policy has more cons then pros that's why China is going to alter it there is talk of a two child policy which is a better option.

 

[Hello_10]

many economists of India advocate "food security"/ "free medicines"/ "right to get a job" etc in India which is not possible until the Indian government may control its population. they simply can't feed 1.2bil population from the limited natural resources they have . USA is 3 times bigger in area than India but population of India is 4 times to USA? and on the top of that, Indian government wants to give welfare/ heavy subsidies to its people? if India face a sudden fall like ASEAN in late 90s and South America like in 80s, all these they will have to withdraw after that so better they keep habit to live in less and get rid off the unnecessary subsidies/welfares . about 5 months before, Pakistan increased petrol and diesel prices by around 10 rupees each when oil price was high as they can't afford to give subsidies while the people of Pakistan are poorer than India but Indian government is hesitating to do so? but the day they will reach level of Pakistan, just one good economic fall is required, and India will learn all by themselves.

only those countries may may feed their people for nothing/ give subsidies and welfare who may control their population which isnt true in case of India. until Indian government can't reduce its population, it can't feed its people for nothing and have welfare/ subsidies

just look on the Budget of US itself, four time bigger country than India with much more natural resources than India, while population of India is four times to US? see how much US is left after welfare/subsidies etc? welfare/subsidies/defence expenditure with total mandatory expenditure, its comes over 85% of total US's budget which itself has deficit close to 10% of GDP, with around 103% Public Debt to date. even recently, US had to borrow more otherwise they were not in the position to pay for their pensioners/medical/welfare? and here, if US with this much hefty natural resources is facing so big problem to feed its people then how India will be able to feed its people which has four times bigger population than US and only a third natural resources/land area?

 

[Yogi]

One child policy is a very sad and extreme policy , this weaken the family ,just its horrible you'll face a generation who have no Idea of how its like to have brother , sister , aunt , uncle , cousins , nice and nephew .
I believe this policy is too extreme ,if they want so badly to control the population growths a more healthy way is two child policy , its sure slower but instead don't harm the structures of the family and society

I agree i think the best possible way is education n awareness. It has started to show its effects in india. Our growth rate is declining by peoples own will n not by some law.
I find it every painfull to see when there r forced abortions in china many times they even beat pregnent women ruthlessly for trying to give a second birth thats totally inhuman.

in india in most of the cities n many villages people have voluntarily started having 1 or 2 children. They r doing it for better education n future of there children n this trend will soon become dominant in whole of india which far far better then some stupid law of having forced abortion for second birth

 

[Hello_10]

Indian government would in fact learn from the lessons they got from British Rule which has solved many key problems like population growth with which India is struggling right now. Even if British rule made many consequences on the Indian poor and they had to pay taxes, Lagaan, out of their earning from the farms they used to work, but they in fact didn’t have to worry from decline water level of India due to its over population as below. they just had to worry for the food which the Indian Jamindars/ regional Kings/ Nawabs used to take from poor Indian farmers to pay to British rule as taxes/ Lagaan, but there wasnt any water problem due to the population balance British Rule has established in India. the population which the Indian government cant control by itself and now Indian people may have to worry for water also? Therefore, now we hope population loss due to water shortage in India in future as we can't control Indian population by ourselves

NASA, National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s satellite imagery submitted a Report to the scientific paper US Based said that Level of Groundwater getting down every year.

Groundwater levels in Punjab, Rajasthan, Haryana and Delhi are falling down one foot every year and this issue can lead to extensive socio-economic stresses for the region’s 114 million residents in North India.

The Images took from NASA’s Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE), a pair of satellites that sense changes in Earth’s gravity field and associated mass distribution, including water masses stored above or below the Earth’s surface.

International journal Nature Published a report in the paper saying 109 cubic km of groundwater has been lost in just six years (2002-08) and this could be the India’s largest surface reservoir Upper Wain Ganga and Doubled than the government’s estimation.

Report also says that from the August 2002 and October 2008, the region lost 109 cubic km of groundwater; almost triple the capacity of the largest man-made reservoir in the U.S, Lake Mead. This a serious issue which need to think more seriously as it could be the reason of collapse of agricultural output and severe shortages of potable water.

NASA / NASA Reported Ground Water level going down in North India:eTI

The annual death rate in India before 1920 was about 4.8% but this declined to 3.5% by 1947 and is presently about 0.9%( India - Population). Using a baseline “expected” annual death rate value of 1.0% and assuming an “actual” pre-1920 value of 4.8% one can estimated that the avoidable (excess) mortality was about 0.6 billion during 1757-1837, 0.5 billion during 1837-1901 and 0.4 billion during 1901-1947. Thus the British rule of India was associated with an excess (i.e. avoidable) mortality totaling 1.5 billion – surely one of the greatest crimes in all of human history.

Benefits of the British Rule in India

 

[IND151]

I agree i think the best possible way is education n awareness. It has started to show its effects in india. Our growth rate is declining by peoples own will n not by some law.
I find it every painfull to see when there r forced abortions in china many times they even beat pregnent women ruthlessly for trying to give a second birth thats totally inhuman.

in india in most of the cities n many villages people have voluntarily started having 1 or 2 children. They r doing it for better education n future of there children n this trend will soon become dominant in whole of india which far far better then some stupid law of having forced abortion for second birth

right

expert say that growth rate of population in India has slowed down

 

[Hello_10]

right

expert say that growth rate of population in India has slowed down

we need a tough rule to reduce the overall population like China. we do have to accept this path or will face natural desasters which will itself control the population, like food shortage/water shortage which will automatically remove people below poverty line

 

[ajtr]

and right now overly populated Pakistan is full of target killings, too many mouth and no resources to feed them. isn't it 'genocide'? its the worse to see people dying without dignity than controlling population by force...

and then majority educated Indians will simply leave India, similar to how Pakistan's educated class just want to run from Pakistan as now Pakistan is not a country to live anymore, if someone has option to move somewhere? then here, why would we mess the native place of ours, but dont try to make it better? why would India become a bigger threat to world in future this way?

What can be implemented in china doesnt mean can be successful in south asia too where religion is so close to tthe hearts of people.South asia is not Atheist like PRC..Only way family planning can be implemented through volunteer participation.And if you try forcing it like PRC then you 'll be looking at full fledged revolt.

 

[Hello_10]

What can be implemented in china doesnt mean can be successful in south asia too where religion is so close to tthe hearts of people.South asia is not Atheist like PRC..Only way family planning can be implemented through volunteer participation.And if you try forcing it like PRC then you 'll be looking at full fledged revolt.

people like you talk so high online but none want to show their identity, you know why? there is a reason. and the same reason works when a country impose any tough rule, those who come on front are removed and rest run away. have a look on Pakistan itself, too many scores in Karachi by police until all those are removed who may come on front..............

those who sit in Pakistan and Bangladesh dream for a revolt in India but common Indian have seen years long riots in early 90s in Mumbai, in mid 90s in North India during Ayodhya crisis, and just 8-9 years before in Gujarat's year long riot also. few are shot down and rest run away and then peace is established. even just 4 years before during 26/11 2008, all the militants were shot down, one captured and few ran away while they all claimed they were 'Indian' Mujahidin. and those commandos might also have thought the same until they captured Kasab, but they showed no mercy those to 'Indian' Mujahidin. Indians just want a government who is willing to impose a tough law and rest, ......

 

[Wright]

Honestly there should be credits. If you want more children purchase more credits. This would naturally result in the affluent having more kids and naturally those children will have better education, nutrition, etc. And would raise the quality of the population.


Just my two cents.