Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India

[Swaha]

Samjhuta Express tragedy: Pakistani couple denied access to children's graves in India - The Express Tribune

I hate india i hate india i hatee ittttttttttttttt

I BLOOODDDY HATEEEEE ITTTTT!!!!!

We're really heartbroken and it pains us a lot to know that you hate India!!

 

[WAR-rior]

Connections, remaining families. Etc.
The Indian government is essentially turning extremist along with its population.. the day is not far when Muslims will be treated like untouchables with properties snatched, one sides "justice" and pointless detention. Its a dangerous precedent in India.

Why dangerous? Is not like they don't have a place to move. They always have Pakistan, the saviours of sub continent Muslims. Right??
On a serious note, ' When will you Pakistanis stop equating Muslims of India to Pakistanis'? It should be too late for you guys to understand by now after quality bashing by Indian Muslim community themselves. Why you don't learn?

 

[mujhaidind]

Why dangerous? Is not like they don't have a place to move. They always have Pakistan, the saviours of sub continent Muslims. Right??

Savior of only Aryan race Muslims.

How can a Pakistani save anyone? All the seriously ill pakistani patients come to India to get treated. Shameless people indeed.

 

[Sugarcane]

Pakistani govt. also have same policy, though not that much strict. So, i don't its appropriate to blame India only.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Savior of only Aryan race Muslims.

No concern for our South Indian Muslims

 

[WAR-rior]

Savior of only Aryan race Muslims.

How can a Pakistani save anyone? All the seriously ill pakistani patients come to India to egt treated. Shameless people indeed.

Shhh. U are getting too personal.

 

[Supply&Demand]

Some Indian muslims are doing fine, not all but by all means keep feeding that delusion to your detriment. I have heard 'personal' horrors of Indian muslims from Bihar to Mumbai to Hyderabad, and what's even more concerning is that these were educated muslims.



What if I told you that all of it is already happening?

You are a LIAR...that much i am pretty sure....

 

[mujhaidind]

No concern for our South Indian Muslims

Most of the Indian Muslims haven't mixed with invaders so they aren't Aryan enough like the Pakistanis who have had Arab,Afghan,Persian,turk and mughal ancestors.

Shhh. U are getting too personal.

Yesterday I saw some Pakistani members posting that they don't want to visit a shithole like India and come anywhere near disgusting Indians.

But these shameless people keep visiting it. Be it their terrible actors/singers. Or dumb students. Or patients who keep coming here for treatment. Or tourists who come to party in night clubs. Or the illegal immigrants who have fled Pakistan. You can always find them in Muslims areas of Mumbai and Hyderabad. I have seen many Pakistani girls at bandra and south mumbai clubs too.

If you are so superior then why do you keep coming here? Stay in your paradise. Liars and hypocrites.

After spending some time on this forum, I have realized the true nature of Pakistans.

 

[Bornubus]

Samjhuta Express tragedy: Pakistani couple denied access to children's graves in India - The Express Tribune

I hate india i hate india i hatee ittttttttttttttt

I BLOOODDDY HATEEEEE ITTTTT!!!!!

Your Welcome

Pakistani liver patient has life-saving surgery after 12 Indian students donate blood for him | Daily Mail Online

 

[doppelganger]

I understand that. However, given the circumstances, it is not wise to go there. If someone has to see their relatives, send them ticket and bring them over to your place.

That would be a really intelligent thing to do.

Am sure most Indian relatives would be chomping at the bit as it were for some good ol' fashioned RnR in Pakistan.

 

[illusion8]

Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India
By Aalia Suleman Published: April 17, 2015

The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country

The non-issuance of visas to India continues to irk thousands of Pakistani Americans as the former remains hell bent to grind an axe with Pakistanis, regardless of borders or their new nationalities.

At the moment, there are an estimated 500,000 Pakistani Americans in the US and the rate of their continually burgeoning numbers makes them the second fastest growing group of Asian immigrants in the US. According to the Pew Research Centre, the entire population of Asian Americans, which includes Pakistanis, is among those in the highest income bracket as well as the best educated in the country. However, despite all the good check marks Pakistanis have in front of their names and despite their coveted blue passports, India continues to trivialise their backgrounds, denying them visit visas to its esteemed land only because they are expats born in Pakistan.

It is absurd for India to assume that no Pakistani would ever want to visit India at some point in their lives. Everyone still has relatives, ancestral homes, ties, backgrounds, and memories of childhood visits to the country even though they themselves were born in Pakistan.

The migration that occurred with the division of the country in 1947 was the greatest mass human migration in the history of mankind. Do the Indian authorities seriously assume that simply on account of being born in Karachi or Lahore, a man’s ties to his entire history could be severed and his whole slate of reverence for the land of his forefathers could be wiped clean?

Even if one removes the emotionality from the picture, the whole situation reeks of brazen, glaring discrimination, not only on the part of India, but also the US authorities by reason of being perpetrated against as US citizens.

Why do these people want to go there?

I am pretty sure it is not with the intent to bomb Mysore or raze the Taj Mahal to the ground. The majority only wishes to visit family, gaze at the homes of which they have heard stories of all their lives, visit the monuments built by the Mughal rulers and reflect, sadly, at the preserved relics in the museums which tell the tale of one of the greatest empires in human history. The fact of the matter is that the soil of India has the roots of the millions of Pakistanis who immigrated to the new country in 1947.

As per the rules on the Indian visa website, the visa processing time for US citizens born in the US is one to three days, whereas the time for people of Pakistani origin, it is six weeks. Even this time requirement is just a scam; visas are not issued at all even after the person has waited for six weeks. According to the US Code Title 42, Chapter 21 of civil rights,

“Discrimination against any person ‘based on age, disability, gender, race, national origin and religion (among other things) in a number of settings—including education, employment, access to businesses and buildings, federal services and more’ is prohibited.”

Yet the Indian consulate carries out this blatant discrimination most unabashedly on US soil against US citizens.

The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country. This excuse is, however, most flimsy and unconvincing. 500,000 US citizens of Pakistani origin cannot be held accountable for a handful of miscreants who also happened to be of Pakistani origin.

Prior to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which were masterminded by the American citizen of Pakistani origin David Headley, all expatriates with foreign passports were exempted from any such visa issuance rules. These rigid rules only came into effect in 2009 and have yet to see any alleviation.

When the officials at the US State Department were questioned about this grey-area-case-of-discrimination, they said they had “raised concerns with the Indian Embassy in Washington” but were unable to do more since visa requirements were engineered by each country in question. Though one could understand that it takes longer for the Indian consulate to do background checks on expats of one country than of another, could it really take six weeks?

Today, it takes minutes to check a person’s background history so why isn’t the Indian embassy able to judge within at least a couple of weeks if a person can or cannot enter the country?

The fact that everyone is denied the visa despite this background check only reflects stark bigotry against Pakistani Americans enabled by US authorities on US soil – an interesting occurrence in this day and age.

Adding further insult to injury, India requires Pakistani Americans to file their visa applications using their Pakistani passports and not their American ones. Whoever chooses to do so, if they even happen to have their Pakistani passport any longer, will not only have to go through the Pakistani consulate to get these passports renewed if required but will also lose all benefits of travelling as US citizens. Of all the bizarre rules that any country could come up with for keeping the people of a certain birth background at bay, trust the Indian consulate to come up with the most outstanding ones.

The sad irony of the entire matter is that despite all these loony-bin tactics India creates to keep Pakistani Americans off their soil, the Pakistanis’ ties to that land keeps them applying for visas repeatedly. Going through similar frustrations and in response to Washington’s ‘non-committal stand’ on the subject, a Pakistani American even filed a petition in court titled ‘Ask India to End Origin-based Discrimination of Visa applicants’. However, so far, all pleas have been falling on completely deaf US and Indian ears, and Pakistani Americans remain barred from the land of their ancestors. It would be interesting to see how this matter is resolved, if ever.

Maybe there will be a day when I too shall be able to visit Dehli, the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.

Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India – The Express Tribune Blog

Same issue with UK citizens of Pak origin.

India's visa rule is unfairly persecuting innocent Pakistanis | Robert Wintemute | Comment is free | The Guardian

There are better places to visit. Why these Morons want to go in the first place. Stupid fellows.

That would be a win win if they don't, Indian authorities don't want them visiting either, will save a lot of embassy time.

 

[mauka]

chill guys, this will be revoked soon. and all those who want beef will get it. don't worry.
I am hindu , vegetarian, I ate egg a few times though.

 

[qamar1990]

Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India
By Aalia Suleman Published: April 17, 2015

The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country

The non-issuance of visas to India continues to irk thousands of Pakistani Americans as the former remains hell bent to grind an axe with Pakistanis, regardless of borders or their new nationalities.

At the moment, there are an estimated 500,000 Pakistani Americans in the US and the rate of their continually burgeoning numbers makes them the second fastest growing group of Asian immigrants in the US. According to the Pew Research Centre, the entire population of Asian Americans, which includes Pakistanis, is among those in the highest income bracket as well as the best educated in the country. However, despite all the good check marks Pakistanis have in front of their names and despite their coveted blue passports, India continues to trivialise their backgrounds, denying them visit visas to its esteemed land only because they are expats born in Pakistan.

It is absurd for India to assume that no Pakistani would ever want to visit India at some point in their lives. Everyone still has relatives, ancestral homes, ties, backgrounds, and memories of childhood visits to the country even though they themselves were born in Pakistan.

The migration that occurred with the division of the country in 1947 was the greatest mass human migration in the history of mankind. Do the Indian authorities seriously assume that simply on account of being born in Karachi or Lahore, a man’s ties to his entire history could be severed and his whole slate of reverence for the land of his forefathers could be wiped clean?

Even if one removes the emotionality from the picture, the whole situation reeks of brazen, glaring discrimination, not only on the part of India, but also the US authorities by reason of being perpetrated against as US citizens.

Why do these people want to go there?

I am pretty sure it is not with the intent to bomb Mysore or raze the Taj Mahal to the ground. The majority only wishes to visit family, gaze at the homes of which they have heard stories of all their lives, visit the monuments built by the Mughal rulers and reflect, sadly, at the preserved relics in the museums which tell the tale of one of the greatest empires in human history. The fact of the matter is that the soil of India has the roots of the millions of Pakistanis who immigrated to the new country in 1947.

As per the rules on the Indian visa website, the visa processing time for US citizens born in the US is one to three days, whereas the time for people of Pakistani origin, it is six weeks. Even this time requirement is just a scam; visas are not issued at all even after the person has waited for six weeks. According to the US Code Title 42, Chapter 21 of civil rights,

“Discrimination against any person ‘based on age, disability, gender, race, national origin and religion (among other things) in a number of settings—including education, employment, access to businesses and buildings, federal services and more’ is prohibited.”

Yet the Indian consulate carries out this blatant discrimination most unabashedly on US soil against US citizens.

The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country. This excuse is, however, most flimsy and unconvincing. 500,000 US citizens of Pakistani origin cannot be held accountable for a handful of miscreants who also happened to be of Pakistani origin.

Prior to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which were masterminded by the American citizen of Pakistani origin David Headley, all expatriates with foreign passports were exempted from any such visa issuance rules. These rigid rules only came into effect in 2009 and have yet to see any alleviation.

When the officials at the US State Department were questioned about this grey-area-case-of-discrimination, they said they had “raised concerns with the Indian Embassy in Washington” but were unable to do more since visa requirements were engineered by each country in question. Though one could understand that it takes longer for the Indian consulate to do background checks on expats of one country than of another, could it really take six weeks?

Today, it takes minutes to check a person’s background history so why isn’t the Indian embassy able to judge within at least a couple of weeks if a person can or cannot enter the country?

The fact that everyone is denied the visa despite this background check only reflects stark bigotry against Pakistani Americans enabled by US authorities on US soil – an interesting occurrence in this day and age.

Adding further insult to injury, India requires Pakistani Americans to file their visa applications using their Pakistani passports and not their American ones. Whoever chooses to do so, if they even happen to have their Pakistani passport any longer, will not only have to go through the Pakistani consulate to get these passports renewed if required but will also lose all benefits of travelling as US citizens. Of all the bizarre rules that any country could come up with for keeping the people of a certain birth background at bay, trust the Indian consulate to come up with the most outstanding ones.

The sad irony of the entire matter is that despite all these loony-bin tactics India creates to keep Pakistani Americans off their soil, the Pakistanis’ ties to that land keeps them applying for visas repeatedly. Going through similar frustrations and in response to Washington’s ‘non-committal stand’ on the subject, a Pakistani American even filed a petition in court titled ‘Ask India to End Origin-based Discrimination of Visa applicants’. However, so far, all pleas have been falling on completely deaf US and Indian ears, and Pakistani Americans remain barred from the land of their ancestors. It would be interesting to see how this matter is resolved, if ever.

Maybe there will be a day when I too shall be able to visit Dehli, the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.

Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India – The Express Tribune Blog

why do pakis want to go to india anyways??

 

[AMCA]

why do pakis want to go to india anyways?? to sip on a nice warm cup of cow urine?

God! we both are same when it comes to generalization. While you guys keep thinking Indians Drink Urine, we Indians think all Pakistanis as terrorists. The only difference being, we are factually correct !!

 

[AMCA]

so indians dont drink cow urine?? is that what you are saying??

Am Not saying that!! All I am saying is that "Indians" is a much Broader term to be used for defining handful of people practicing it.