TheSnakeEatingMarkhur
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We cant ignore the fact that bin laden helped us to not get sandwiched between USSR and india
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We cant ignore the fact that bin laden helped us to not get sandwiched between USSR and india
OMG! poor wasim akramHad come to know of this in a video by Arslan Naseer, follow him for the lols
I have been to Istanbul and most of Turkey I was disappointed to be honest. I couldn't recognize the place and I thought I was somewhere else.
Example in the video at 6:42 that couple is holding hands and I have even seen some couples kissing on streets casually and it was completely normal.
If Caliph Abdul Hamid knew of this he would have given them the famous Ottoman slap
Look mate your not talking with a teenager. I know what Turkey is. I have gone there many times over decades. Yes, like any society they have a broad spectrum but here is a fact. You can wear a miniskirt, drink alcohol in any part of Turkey even during Ramadan. And nothing will happen. Yes, you can also be ultra religious but the fact is the Turks as whole are a secular people who are shifting more toward Europe. They despise Arabs. Hate Arab culture.Turkey is actually a mix of cultures.
Look mate your not talking with a teenager. I know what Turkey is. I have gone there many times over decades. Yes, like any society they have a broad spectrum but here is a fact. You can wear a miniskirt, drink alcohol in any part of Turkey even during Ramadan. And nothing will happen. Yes, you can also be ultra religious but the fact is the Turks as whole are a secular people who are shifting more toward Europe. They despise Arabs. Hate Arab culture.
Erdogan is supposed to be putatively a Islamist leader and head of AKP. After 20 years rule with ten years as almost absolute power Turkey remains stauncily secular. You land at Istanbul airport the first thing that hits you is hoarding for alcohlic drinks.
Most Turks look down on Syrians as backward. The fact is Syrians are far more progressive then Pakistani's. The only reason the Turks have a pro Pakistan bias is because they are uber nationalists or "vatan-parast" which involves a extreme form of patriotism to Turkishness which is based on blood. This even has undertones of pagan Tengrism of the ancient Turkish tribes. with wolf being their marker.
In their history books they are taught that antecedents of Pakistan's helped Ataturk's Turkish armies. For them that is it. They don't premise their affection on Islam. A Turkish athiest is as pro Pakistan as a religious Turk.
But trust me as soon as typical Turks become aware that mosrt Pakistani's are even more backward then Arabs their affection will wilt. I know most here are so deluded that non of what I said will cut.
But think about this. After 20 years what does Erogans's Turkey look like. And invite a Turk to this thread to rebut what I said.
Well at least you had your eyes and mind open. Istanbul, Ankara or other cities are exactly like Paris, Berlin or London. Even in month of Ramadhan bars selling alcohol, restaraurents etc are open. There no sign of Turkish Saad Rizvi and a mob going around burning these haram places down in holy month. Somebody compared Lahore with Turkey. Tell me in Gulberg or Mall a entire district of bars/clubs/pubs selling alcohol with miniskirted women walking about legally and in the open?I have been to Istanbul and most of Turkey I was disappointed to be honest. I couldn't recognize the place and I thought I was somewhere else.
Look mate your not talking with a teenager. I know what Turkey is. I have gone there many times over decades. Yes, like any society they have a broad spectrum but here is a fact. You can wear a miniskirt, drink alcohol in any part of Turkey even during Ramadan. And nothing will happen. Yes, you can also be ultra religious but the fact is the Turks as whole are a secular people who are shifting more toward Europe. They despise Arabs. Hate Arab culture.
Erdogan is supposed to be putatively a Islamist leader and head of AKP. After 20 years rule with ten years as almost absolute power Turkey remains stauncily secular. You land at Istanbul airport the first thing that hits you is hoarding for alcohlic drinks.
Most Turks look down on Syrians as backward. The fact is Syrians are far more progressive then Pakistani's. The only reason the Turks have a pro Pakistan bias is because they are uber nationalists or "vatan-parast" which involves a extreme form of patriotism to Turkishness which is based on blood. This even has undertones of pagan Tengrism of the ancient Turkish tribes. with wolf being their marker.
In their history books they are taught that antecedents of Pakistan's helped Ataturk's Turkish armies. For them that is it. They don't premise their affection on Islam. A Turkish athiest is as pro Pakistan as a religious Turk.
But trust me as soon as typical Turks become aware that mosrt Pakistani's are even more backward then Arabs their affection will wilt. I know most here are so deluded that non of what I said will cut.
But think about this. After 20 years what does Erogans's Turkey look like. And invite a Turk to this thread to rebut what I said.
You saying Pakistan is more closer to Indonesia than it is to Turkey?Pakistan Mall and Indonesian Mall is quite similar in Islamic vibe, majority are wearing Hijab but there are some who dont
You saying Pakistan is more closer to Indonesia than it is to Turkey?
Yup, Turkey is quite exception in Muslim world due to the influence of de-Islamization during Ataturk period. Despite so I dont understand of why AKP can win there.
yes please honor the terrorist like mumtaz qadriWe cant ignore the fact that bin laden helped us to not get sandwiched between USSR and india