On Arab indifference toward the Peshawar massacre

[Frogman]

Actually this shows you know nothing about Pakistan. Every other day some Islamist Pakistanis are rallying and crying about some tragedy in some distant arab land.

As for looking for foreign blame, then yes. The arabs should stop funding and spreading their neo fascist ideology and also stop interfering in Pakistani politics. If Saudi Arabia had not interfered and saved the founder of Pakistani Islamists in 1953 when he was sentenced to die, we would not be seeing so much terrorism in Pakistan.

Personally I couldn't care less about the arabs, but they keep meddling in Pakistani affairs so I will say whatever I want on this forum for as long as they keep meddling in our affairs.

The Arabs!?

Last time I checked there were 22 Arab states and the vast majority of them had exactly sweet f all to do with the Mujahideen or financing terrorism in South Asia (or anywhere else) from the 1950s onwards.

It is the Pakistani states fault that it continued to harbour extremist elements after the war with the Soviets had been won in order to keep influence in Afghanistan. It is also the Pakistani states fault in providing Islamist extremists a pedestal from which to preach without consequence. It is the Pakistani states fault that it distinguishes between good and bad terrorists.

The terrorist attacks in your nation, are your fault, whether they are being funded from Saudi or Zimbabwe is irrelevant. It was your states prerogative to combat extremism and it failed to do so.

500 million people 3 thousand miles away are not who you should be blaming for your own woes.

 

[Pakistani E]

**** Pakistani media. If you knew anything about Pakistan, you'd know that in EVERY fucking sermon in ANY Pakistani mosque they pray for nothing but the poor-oh-so-poor Arabs in Syria/Yemen/Iraq/Libya etc etc. 24/7. Every fucking day of the year, and the closing statements for 5 seconds is Kashmir and them poor-poor Palestinians.

This is precisely the reason why everyone on this forum is angry and pissed off at Arabs. Now do you get it?

Careful,
@Mosamania seems to think that everyone who says things like that is an Ahmadi.

 

[SipahSalar]

Does Pakistani media report and condemn the deaths and tragedies that occur all over in the MENA region!? No. Apart from coverage of Syria/Iraq the rest of the region gets no attention.

Yes Pakistani media covered the atrocities in Palestine in great detail while your country's women closed the border, stopped food supply and celebrated the bombardment. Israeli planes even used Egyptian airspace to bomb Palestinians.

You can try to twist the facts however you want, the whole world knows where the womb of terrorism is and who is funding them.

 

[Pakistani E]

The Arabs!?

Last time I checked there were 22 Arab states and the vast majority of them had exactly sweet f all to do with the Mujahideen or financing terrorism in South Asia (or anywhere else) from the 1950s onwards.

It is the Pakistani states fault that it continued to harbour extremist elements after the war with the Soviets had been won in order to keep influence in Afghanistan. It is also the Pakistanis states fault in providing Islamist extremists a pedestal from which to preach without consequence. It is the Pakistani states fault that it distinguishes between good and bad terrorists.

The terrorist attacks in your nation, are your fault, whether they are being funded from Saudi or Zimbabwe is irrelevant. It was your states prerogative to combat extremism and it failed to do so.

500 million people 3 thousand miles away are not who you should be blaming for your own woes.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar Bahrain etc. These nations are arabs last I checked.

The Pakistani state is at fault of course, but you can't ignore the fact that Zia Ul Haq, the guy who put Pakistan in the so called AfghanJihad was financially and politically supported by the US and most middle eastern states, particularly Saudi Arabia.

How can we combat terrorism when our politicians, like NS and our religious clergy, like the Lal Masjid etc are all supported and financially helped by Saudi Arabia. Even the Taliban which Pakistan supported were backed Saudi Arabia.

Deny all you want.

 

[al-Hasani]

Saudi Arabia, Qatar Bahrain etc. These nations are arabs last I checked.

The Pakistani state is at fault of course, but you can't ignore the fact that Zia Ul Haq, the guy who put Pakistan in the so called AfghanJihad was financially and politically supported by the US and most middle eastern states, particularly Saudi Arabia.

How can we combat terrorism when our politicians, like NS and our religious clergy, like the Lal Masjid etc are all supported and financially helped by Saudi Arabia. Even the Taliban which Pakistan supported were backed Saudi Arabia.

Deny all you want.

No proof of state support. At most a few number of private individuals. Besides the regimes in those 3 countries have not been elected by a single of the 30 million native Saudi Arabians, 500.000 Qataris and 1 million Bahrainis. So your crying is useless and what it is.

Please continue denying the state of your country and the respective Pakistani governments that YOUR people elected.

No wonder that the state of Pakistan and Pakistanis is what it is with such mentality.

 

[Mosamania]

See, this is why I have a problem with arabs meddling in Pakistan. They can't keep their sectarian noses far away for too long. I guess the mention of my religion is somehow the logical response to me statements? How very intellectual.

I am just saying that your stance is now very understandable, and the reason for your anger is now clear that is all.

Now if you think I am sectarian or religionist or whatever you wanna call it this actually requires me to shift to a side I am on for which there is none.

 

[Pakistani E]

I am just saying that your stance is now very understandable, and the reason for your anger is now clear that is all.

I can also see why you so ferociously defend wahabi terrorists. Your stance is now very understandable and your excuses for your fellow fascists is now clear.

 

[SipahSalar]

If you knew anything about Pakistan, you'd know that in EVERY fucking sermon in ANY Pakistani mosque they pray for nothing but the poor-oh-so-poor Arabs in Syria/Yemen/Iraq/Libya etc etc.

They think just because they are indifferent, the rest of the ummah is indifferent too. I don't remember a SINGLE friday sermon in which the imam didn't pray for them. Or a single news that didn't have a section covering them. In KSA you can never do that, because your imam's sermons need approval from the king.

 

[Hyperion]

Dude, whatever Ahmadyia are, they are citizens of Pakistan. I may not classify them as Muslims, however, they are more honorable to me and Pakistan than a gazillion foreigners, any time of the day. Same goes for every other minority.

Ooooh Ahamadyah, this makes a lot of sense now. Yes yes it does. .UK yes I see the picture clearly now. Even the username ah yes.

 

[Norwegian]

Some even began to criticize the Western media’s interest in the case and categorized this coverage as targeting Islam.

LOL Islam needs no targeting. Its quite capable of targeting itself.

For some reason, the horrible tragedy of Peshawar students whom the Taliban criminals in Pakistan killed failed to interest the Arab media and public opinion as it should have.

LOL. Who cares about Arab public opinion? Its been unchanged since Islam was born

What interprets our weak interest in this tragedy is tragic on its own. There are Muslims who killed Muslims so there’s nothing that interests us here. The murderer must not be Muslim in order for us to be outraged. Perhaps if the murderer had been Muslim and the victims were non-Muslims, we would’ve cared about what happened to Yazidi children or about what happened in the Russian school of Beslan ten years ago.

NAILED IT!

 

[Hyperion]

Or a Shia........ anyhow, he got my reply!

Careful,
@Mosamania seems to think that everyone who says things like that is an Ahmadi.

 

[Pakistani E]

No proof of that. At most a few number of private individuals. Besides the regimes in those 3 countries have not been elected by a single of the 30 million native Saudi Arabians, 500.000 Qataris and 1 million Bahrainis. So your crying is useless and what it is.

Please continue denying the state of your country and the respective Pakistani governments that YOUR people elected.

No wonder that the state of Pakistan and Pakistanis is what it is with such mentality.

No proof of what? The fact that Maudid the father of Islamists in Pakistan was not saved by Saudi Arabia? Nope, everyone in Pakistan knows that.

What other proof? The fact that Zia ul Haq, the Islamist dictator was not supported by Saudi Arabia and the US? Again, everyone in Pakistan knows that.

Or the proof that the Saudis fund madrassahs and mosques in Punjab to spread militant fascism in what were mostly sufi areas? Sorry to burst your bubble, but everyone knows that.

 

[SipahSalar]

The Arabs!?

Last time I checked there were 22 Arab states and the vast majority of them had exactly sweet f all to do with the Mujahideen or financing terrorism in South Asia (or anywhere else) from the 1950s onwards.

It is the Pakistani states fault that it continued to harbour extremist elements after the war with the Soviets had been won in order to keep influence in Afghanistan. It is also the Pakistani states fault in providing Islamist extremists a pedestal from which to preach without consequence. It is the Pakistani states fault that it distinguishes between good and bad terrorists.

The terrorist attacks in your nation, are your fault, whether they are being funded from Saudi or Zimbabwe is irrelevant. It was your states prerogative to combat extremism and it failed to do so.

500 million people 3 thousand miles away are not who you should be blaming for your own woes.

Yes yes, 1950's. I am sure Osama Bin Laden was a fake Saudi, and i am sure he was sent to Pakistan to wage "jihad" in the 1950s. You need to do some fact checking. Or maybe you were dropped too hard when you were born?

 

[SipahSalar]

Where did ISIS come from? From teh same womb as Al-Qaeeda. Who is funding the fanatics in Libya? The same donors.
WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists | World news | The Guardian

 

[Mosamania]

Dude, whatever Ahmadyia are, they are citizens of Pakistan. I may not classify them as Muslims, however, they are more honorable to me and Pakistan than a gazillion foreigners, any time of the day. Same goes for every other minority.

I don't really give a shit what anyone's religion is, the only one I seek guidance from is RNGesus in my Hearthstone ranked matches. But someone's religious background makes them predisposed into taking a stance vis a vis Saudi Arabia and that is all that matters to me.

And this guy is saying I defend "Wahabi" terrorists. Oh please do enlighten me when? Hahahaha joke of the century.