Oldest primate fossil yet found. It is a tiny Chinese Archicebus fossil

[Ayush]

true..someone may get annoyed..

 

[Azazel]

@Azazel I stopped reading you on page 7...and started again only recently...I saw on page 7 you posted an article but mind you what was the purpose of that article? Kindly tell me what you understood from it?!

I doubt that too.You replied me twice in the page 7.And I thought purpose of that article was so obvious.it was a refutation of your claim that Evolution is just a theory not a fact.

 

[RKhan]

I understand the theory more than any of you guys...I did not end up as a PhD in genetics student from the blue!


Dude, scientific proof is showing that SUCH mutations can be accumulate and lead to jumping ...that the DNA repair mechanisms can not fix and that the mutations will be passed and are not silent mutations and many other stuff...so please either read the discussion from beginning or understand where I stand before passing comments!

Go to Madagascar, the Galapagos islands. Its all right there. It's even in the DNA.

 

[Azazel]

The bhartee should summaraize his point in a civilized debate rather than copying pasting articles like an internet keyboard warrior.

Dear,Do you really think you have anything valuable to contribute here??

 

[RazPaK]

Go to Madagascar, the Galapagos islands. Its all right there. It's even in the DNA.

If it were that simple you would be working for Nasa already buddy.

Dear,Do you really think you have anything valuable to contribute here??

Having a far superior education than you, If I had the time to research and sift through articles, I would most definitely.

Fortunately, I have a job unlike you, so I don't have time.

However, I have been reading the thread.

You have no evidence except circumstantial evidence which again only backs theories to a point.

You are not addressing any of the points @Talon is making.

I will back the geneticist compared to a bhartee internet warrior.


Tank you, come again.

 

[Ayush]

Dear,Do you really think you have anything valuable to contribute here??

u really need to ask that??

btw,congrats on becoming a senior member..

 

[Dubious]

As I said you are stuck in 1870s,Come to 21st century.In 21st century evidence of Theory of Evolution is derived from various branches of biology which include particularly genetics, cytology, systematics, botany, morphology, ecology and paleontology.

1stly, differentiate between speciation, evolution theory, microevolution and also natural selection....then divide THESE into the fields you mentioned....except cytology, which doesnt directly deal with evolution....

The best current one is the E coli long term evolution experiment. Started in 1988 it has followed the evolution of E coli for 52,000 generations. That's about 1,250,000 years in human generations. The E coli have evolved and produced a new species.

unless you are an euakryote...we all know that eukaryotic cells are not only different they also divide differently,

With the advent of DNA testing evolution has been confirmed through experimentation. Darwin didn't dream of such technology but on going discoveries confirm the process of natural selection and evolution.

Darwin didnt test on Bacteria...please dont bring in another topic when you can not handle 1!

You can also review the major court cases on evolution. These are ones where the explaination of evolution has been judged in court.

Overview of the E. coli long-term evolution experiment
Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism | NCSE

High school biology teacher LeVake had argued for his right to teach "evidence both for and against the theory" of evolution.

The disclaimer stickers stated, "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered." After the district court's decision, the stickers were removed from Cobb’s textbooks.

Only in Dec. 2005 Did they allow anything ADDITIONAL to evolution to be thought? and not ignore the missing links ...

Yup district courts are now giving Biology classes! Like giving parenting classes and also giving and taking rights of divorcees...man that is not prove! That is human trying to shove down what they want...how is that supposed to be critical thinking when you do not mention there is an alternative? and tht some missing links are still well, MISSING!

Fact means something that is known to have happened or to exist, especially something for which proof exists, or about which there is information[/B].And the evolution by the means of selection is a fact since it has over the years provided with tons of evidence and In 150 years no major tenet of evolutionary theory has been overturned.

fact noun - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online

Again just coz the words are not alphabet to alphabet same as yours...you think I made it up or am a drama queen, you can google it...I got my definitions from online too...

Again playing with the words.That's not the meaning of the word law in science,this explanation came from the law books.The laws of science or scientific laws are statements that describe, predict, and perhaps explain why, a range of phenomena behave as they appear to in nature.An analogous term for a scientific law is a principle.

Scientific laws:



As used in science, both these terms "law" and "theory" share some things in common. Both are based on tested hypotheses; both are supported by a large body of empirical data; both help unify a particular field; both are widely accepted by the vast majority (if not all) scientists within a discipline. Furthermore, both scientific laws and scientific theories could be shown to be wrong at some time if there are data to suggest so.Remember how Einstien proved that the Newtonian "Laws" of mechanics did not explain everything.

Both these words are remarkably similar but the difference between them is that a law describes what nature does under certain conditions, and will predict what will happen as long as those conditions are met. A theory explains how nature works. Others delineate law and theory based on mathematics -- Laws are often times mathematically defined (once again, a description of how nature behaves) whereas theories are often non-mathematical. Looking at things this was helps to explain, in part, why physics and chemistry have lots of "laws" whereas biology has few laws (and more theories). In biology, it is very difficult to describe all the complexities of life with "simple" (relatively speaking!) mathematical terms.

Regardless of which definitions one uses to distinguish between a law and a theory, scientists would agree that a theory is NOT a "transitory law, a law in waiting". There is NO hierarchy being implied by scientists who use these words. That is, a law is neither "better than" nor "above" a theory. From this view, laws and theories "do" different things and have different roles to play in science. Furthermore, notice that with any of the above definitions of law, neither scientists nor nature "conform" to the law. In science, a law is not something that is dictated to scientists or nature; it is not something that a scientist or nature has to do under threat of some penalty if they don't conform.

So now you are a lawyer? Well, I am not 1 so not sure what you are going on about...

Why you missed this post???

I jsut saw it out of soo many mentions....

I doubt that too.You replied me twice in the page 7.And I thought purpose of that article was so obvious.it was a refutation of your claim that Evolution is just a theory not a fact.

http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/overview.html
this is not

Go to Madagascar, the Galapagos islands. Its all right there. It's even in the DNA.

Nope there are missing links....the Galapagos shows Finches or sizes, with different beak size and shape...nothing to show that they had a similar ancestor, they may...but they still are birds...havent turned into lizards!

 

[Dubious]

ok.. I think its just personal fight now.. @Awesome please close this thread... otherwise these people wont sleep..

nahh..not everyone is obsessed like you lot I slept 2 nights already and still got mentioned to this thread

 

[Dubious]

Why are sulking??If you don't want to be quoted then don't quote us and leave the thread.Its not as if we are putting a gun on your head and forcing you to agree with us.You are a fully competent individual who is capable of making every decision for yourself.We are only expressing our disagreement with your posts here and that too in an intellectual manner.We have provided all form of evidence you asked, and there are even more in the internet.And I certainly don't think humans have any inherent capability to differentiate good and evil considering the fact that Humans are one of the most destructive species this planet has ever seen.Due to our actions we are already triggering a mass extinction on the same scale as the one that killed Dinosaurs.I doubt such a species could have any moral values at all.Our perceived self importance is nothing more than a delusion.

BBC - Future - Science & Environment - A looming mass extinction caused by humans
.

Yet I had some 2-4 Indians telling me what is the use of religion when we know what is good or bad we learn it in Kindergarten and now you say we don't people make up your mind...

 

[FaujHistorian]

If it were that simple you would be working for Nasa already buddy. rofl:

.

May not be NASA, but surely some good place where they need a good degree.

unlike

Some RipPed sahib working in Luton's grocery stores.

..... the use of religion when we know what is good or bad we learn it in Kindergarten...

Believe in basic morality that was taught in KG. That's a good thing.

But please grow up beyond the stories not too different from Santa Clause.

peace

nahh..not everyone is obsessed :

Obsession is the wrong word for someone spreading Mullahtic thoughts.

Pity comes close though.

 

[RazPaK]

May not be NASA, but surely some good place where they need a good degree.

unlike

Some RipPed sahib working in Luton's grocery stores.



Believe in basic morality that was taught in KG. That's a good thing.

But please grow up beyond the stories not too different from Santa Clause.

peace



Obsession is the wrong word for someone spreading Mullahtic thoughts.

Pity comes close though.

Sir,

This is the third I'm have to tell you not quote me, because you are an extreme Indian butt kisser.

For this reason, I would not like to have any discussion with you.

If it happens again, I may have to report you.

Good day.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sir,

This is the third I'm have to tell you not quote me, because you are an extreme Indian butt kisser.

For this reason, I would not like to have any discussion with you.

If it happens again, I may have to report you.

Good day.

No contributions.

Just personal attacks and f@rts coming from a grocery store.


For the nth time.

Contribute something on the topic.



instead of trying to bukiss a particular poster.

 

[Azazel]

1stly, differentiate between speciation, evolution theory, microevolution and also natural selection....then divide THESE into the fields you mentioned....except cytology, which doesnt directly deal with evolution....

Speciation:Speciation is the evolutionary process by which new biological species arise.

Evolutionary theory;Could be referred to Original Darwin's theory of evolution which is a scientific argument explaining the origin of new species by the process of Natural selection.

It could also be referred to The modern evolutionary synthesis which is a 20th-century union of ideas from several biological specialties which provides a widely accepted account of the evolution.This theory was successful in establishing the fact that Natural selection is indeed the key driver process of evolution.As you might know Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species was successful in convincing most biologists that evolution had occurred, but was less successful in convincing them that natural selection was its primary mechanism.

Micro evolution:Microevolution is the changes in allele frequencies that occur over time within a population.This change is due to four different processes: mutation, selection (natural and artificial), gene flow, and genetic drift.

Natural selection:Natural selection is the gradual, non-random process by which biological traits become either more or less common in a population as a function of differential reproduction of their bearers. It is a key mechanism of evolution

And yes cytology does contribute to the evolutionary study.It Supports evolution.Mitochondria in most eukaryote cells we can see evidence of common ancestry.

unless you are an euakryote...we all know that eukaryotic cells are not only different they also divide differently,

All Animal cells are Eukaryotic cells.Don't know what you mean here.

Darwin didnt test on Bacteria...please dont bring in another topic when you can not handle 1!

But the scientists did.Read my first quote.

High school biology teacher LeVake had argued for his right to teach "evidence both for and against the theory" of evolution.

The disclaimer stickers stated, "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered." After the district court's decision, the stickers were removed from Cobb’s textbooks.

Only in Dec. 2005 Did they allow anything ADDITIONAL to evolution to be thought? and not ignore the missing links ...

Yup district courts are now giving Biology classes! Like giving parenting classes and also giving and taking rights of divorcees...man that is not prove! That is human trying to shove down what they want...how is that supposed to be critical thinking when you do not mention there is an alternative? and tht some missing links are still well, MISSING!

Science classes are meant for teaching science subjects.Not pseudo sciences like Intelligent design.

Again just coz the words are not alphabet to alphabet same as yours...you think I made it up or am a drama queen, you can google it...I got my definitions from online too...

Don't know what you mean here.And yes i googled it and I posted a good source for my explanation but you didn't.

So now you are a lawyer? Well, I am not 1 so not sure what you are going on about...

It seems you lost track of you posts.Go back and read #89.That was a reply to that post.

Overview of the E. coli long-term evolution experiment
this is not

You can ignore it if you must.

Yet I had some 2-4 Indians telling me what is the use of religion when we know what is good or bad we learn it in Kindergarten and now you say we don't people make up your mind...

I don't think that post had any thing to do with religion those are just facts.

Having a far superior education than you, If I had the time to research and sift through articles, I would most definitely.

Fortunately, I have a job unlike you, so I don't have time.

However, I have been reading the thread.

You have no evidence except circumstantial evidence which again only backs theories to a point.

You are not addressing any of the points @Talon is making.

I will back the geneticist compared to a bhartee internet warrior.


Tank you, come again.

Oh pls do take your time.We are breathlessly awaiting you display of the superior education you have received.And yes I am addressing every points @Talon is making here.

 

[livingdead]

If it were that simple you would be working for Nasa already buddy.



Having a far superior education than you, If I had the time to research and sift through articles, I would most definitely.

Fortunately, I have a job unlike you, so I don't have time.

However, I have been reading the thread.

You have no evidence except circumstantial evidence which again only backs theories to a point.

You are not addressing any of the points @Talon is making.

I will back the geneticist compared to a bhartee internet warrior.


Tank you, come again.

This is the best line of this thread...

 

[RazPaK]

This is the best line of this thread...

Indeed. I'm at work and have a real job, instead of online keyboard soldiering. Nor is my field in genetics, but having gone through the thread, @Talon is making valid points, which are not being answered.