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1/21/2009

Pakistan on Wednesday (Jan 21) reacted to Obama's warning on conditional aid saying Pakistan will review its options if US doesnt adopt a positive policy. Though the Obama Administration has begun arm-twisting Pakistan into prosecuting the war on terror as of now Islamabad seems to be in no mood to listen.

Pakistan Ambassador in US, Hussain Haqqani said that if Obama administration didn't adopt positive policy towards Pakistan, then Pakistan would also review its options.

However, Haqqani hoped that Barack Obama as compared to Bush will believe in holding talks and hoped the he (Obama) would give more patient hearing to Pakistan's views. He further hoped that Barack Obama in relation to war against terrorism would also pay attention to the political, foreign policy factors and socio-economic matters.

Though the government in Pakistan may not welcome unsolicited intervention from the Obama Administration there is an recognition in Pakistan that Islamabad has to take drastic steps to turn off the terror tap.

Talat Masood, security analyst said, "I think government really has to really act. It just cannot just be a silent spectator to what is happening, otherwise the state will collapse and you will have a generation of highly uneducated people who will have nothing else to do except to fight, and Pakistan's future is doomed if we give into this."

Pakistan's military has also issued a blunt call for outside powers to stop demanding it do more to prove its sincerity in the campaign against militancy. Pakistan's Chief of staff General Tariq Majid said that repeated rhetoric by some of the external players asking Pakistan to do more and prove sincerity must stop.

Majid didn't refer to any country or US Central Command Chief General David Petraeus but he said international players must come out for the coercive mindset and instead start delivering on the promised capacity assistance. Majid said that Pakistan did not need to prove its sincerity considering the sacrifices it was making which cannot be matched by those players making these demandas.
 
How did you feel when the PRC gov't chose not to provide a direct loan nor aid to Pakistan during Zardari's visit to Beijing last fall. Were you pleased?

Why did this happen?

Thanks.:)

China did provide soft loan of $500 million and had valid reasons not to bail out Pakistan as I've explained before. Pakistan's case would open doors for a numbers of financially troubled countries including some close allies to seek Chinese help. Obviously China is not waiting for that and we understand her position.

Did it damage our mutual understanding or ties?
The answer is NO!
 
Omar,

"I think the current China-Pakistan partnership will be the best for Pakistan."

How did you feel when the PRC gov't chose not to provide a direct loan nor aid to Pakistan during Zardari's visit to Beijing last fall. Were you pleased?

Why did this happen?

Thanks.:)


China has done plenty for Pakistan.

China has build roads in Pakistan and they continue to build roads, they spent billions of dollars on Gwadar, they helped Pakistan with its defence, and currently the Chinese are helping Pakistan with its energy problem. China has done a lot for Pakistan and no Pakistani will ever forget it.
 
Omar,

"I think the current China-Pakistan partnership will be the best for Pakistan."

How did you feel when the PRC gov't chose not to provide a direct loan nor aid to Pakistan during Zardari's visit to Beijing last fall. Were you pleased?

Why did this happen?

Thanks.:)

China preparing rescue package for Pakistan

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China has done plenty for Pakistan.

China has build roads in Pakistan and they continue to build roads, they spent billions of dollars on Gwadar, they helped Pakistan with its defence, and currently the Chinese are helping Pakistan with its energy problem. China has done a lot for Pakistan and no Pakistani will ever forget it.

The Chinese didn't give money to Zardari's government only. I don't blame them. Commendable in my opinon.
 
Russia and China are two countries that have the potential to help Pakistan.

But the problem is that they think that we are still very good friends with the US.

The moment the thing gets cleared they will start a new level of friendship with us.

US is a threat to both Russia and China, but they will come after them only when they have gone through Pakistan.

That's what I think to a degree. Pakistan needs to pick an ally, and not try and please all 3.

Go for China. It makes the best sense.
 
Does "Interests" mean wars only?. Tell me, doesn't Pakistan operate in her interests as well? just like other countries?.

We are not talking about all countires Black Stone ! hence we are talking about the good ole USA .second where has Pakistan gone and as you state operate her interest??? plzz fill us in boss! :azn:
 
Pakistan should act in its interests. But it's not done that, partly because of the theat of being bombed into the stone age.

The priorities have been changed, so that its interests lay in not being bombed. All these cross border attacks by US drones haven't helped either, they make the Pakistani government look weak and in cahoots with foreign powers in the eyes of people.
 
"Chinese experts are sure that their workers in both Nigeria and Pakistan are becoming victims of an international conspiracy and say that China will expose the hands behind this conspiracy very soon."

and

"At a briefing in Beijing on Friday, hundreds of European and dozens of Indian journalists tried their best to force Chinese government officials to say that China would not build two more nuclear power plants for Pakistan but foreign office spokesman Qin Gang told a briefing: 'We will help Pakistan for the peaceful use of nuclear energy under the IAEA laws.'”

Yeah. Looks good. $1.5B soft loan and some telecomms stuff. Neo says it so I'll believe him. Can't believe this source, though, even if true. That's some of the damnedest reporting I've ever read in my life.:lol:

Really funny stuff...
 
Pakistan's war with Afghanistan is also "illegal". Anyway, your whole belief that the US does almost everything because of oil is illogical. The US can simply buy whatever oil it needs. Oil does not explain US foreign policy. It is very unsophisticated and superficial to believe that it does.

Is Pakistan war with Afghan is illegal?? What the hell the pakistan fighting then? If pakistan wasnt supported afghan would have been biggest mistake in US histry. Good that US got pakistan to fight and compramise with afghans.

If US loose the grip on oil market first thing going to happen is OIL wont be sold in dollars. Thats it dollar going to be killed and euro takes over in one day time...never ever dollar get a chance to run as international currency,

When Arab countries demanded to make minimum price as $70 US rejecrted it. Arab lost money heavily and for the sake of protection they ar depending on US
 
Analysis by Najmuddin A Shaikh

Obama has said that a resolution of Pakistan's disputes with India — specifically Kashmir — would help to ensure that Pakistan committed itself more fully to the battle against the violent extremism and terrorism that now pervade the Afghan-Pakistan border area

Barack Hussein Obama was sworn in as the 44th President of the United States of America at an inaugural ceremony which attracted one of the largest crowds ever seen in Washington. It was a fitting climax to the dazzling campaign an African American with a white mother, a Muslim Kenyan father and a Muslim Indonesian stepfather had waged to ascend to the most powerful office in the world.

His speech was a bravado performance but had it been otherwise, he would still have elicited an enthusiastic response, because for his American constituents he represents a break from the grimy eight years of the Bush administration and, perhaps equally importantly, a liberation from the stigma of discrimination against African Americans that had been part of the American political scene and that had sullied the image the Americans had of themselves.

Obama could suggest that they as a people as much as the government and as much as the greedy men of the financial world were responsible for the economic crisis in which American found itself. He could tell them that the challenges were real and that “they will not be met easily or in a short span of time”, but he could also reassure them that they would be met because “we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord.”

For his American audience, this was perhaps the most important part of his speech. It echoed, if a recent poll is to be believed, the perception of most Americans that the recession would last for at least two years and that it would take two years and more to reform the healthcare system and to effect a withdrawal from Iraq, but that in five years they would be better off than they are now. 60 percent of the respondents in the poll conducted on the eve of the inauguration said that Obama would be a very good or good president.

It would be safe to assume that, barring an exceptionally sharp downturn in the economy or a complete failure of the proposed stimulus package, Obama will have a honeymoon with the voters that will last well beyond the traditional 100 days.

For his foreign audience in Europe, where his popularity rating is higher than even in America itself, his speech confirmed the expectation that he will recognise the need to work together with other important countries, abandoning the unilateralism of the Bush era.

In his speech, he recalled that “earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions”; that they understood “our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please”; and that security flowed from our “humility and restraint”. He asserted that “meeting new threats demanded even greater effort — even greater co-operation and understanding between nations”.

This is what the Europeans were anxious to hear. They probably found less palatable his next sentence, which said that “We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan”.

This laconic reference to what are the two most important foreign policy issues confronting the new president was meant to remind the Europeans of the Obama expectation, elaborated upon in earlier speeches that the Europeans need to “do more” in Afghanistan: send additional troops, remove the caveats on their participation in combat against the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and provide greater funding for the economic development of Afghanistan. European public opinion is certainly not in favour of any such effort. The same poll that gave Obama his high popularity rating in Europe also found that more than half the voters in the UK, France, Germany and Italy were resolutely against any more of their troops being sent to the Afghan theatre.

The “hard earned peace” that Obama is seeking in Afghanistan (and Pakistan, since for some time now the American security establishment and many who are now part of the Obama team see Afghanistan and Pakistan as one theatre) will have to be very largely an American endeavour.

In his speech, Obama carefully avoided using the phrase “war on terror” or referring to the Pak-Afghan border as the epicentre of terror, but by saying that “for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken. You cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you,” Obama made it clear that this was going to remain a preoccupation of his administration.

This is why in his first official engagement after his inauguration, Obama met with his security team and received a briefing from General David Petraeus on his recent visit to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

So what form is the endeavour to forge peace in this theatre likely to take?

Taking Pakistan first, sharply etched in the minds of Pakistanis is Obama’s statement during the election campaign in mid-2007 that “If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President [Pervez] Musharraf will not act, we will.” Obama has never retracted this statement, though in the presidential debate he did say that this did not mean that he wanted to attack Pakistan.

Other statements have suggested that he was modifying his position. In July 2008, he said that he wanted to devise a policy that “compels Pakistani action against terrorists who threaten our common security and are using the FATA and the Northwest Territories of Pakistan as a safe haven.” In the same month in another interview, he contended that too much US financial assistance to Pakistan has been military aid, and “not enough of it has been in the form of building schools and building infrastructure in the country to help develop and give opportunity to the Pakistani people.”

There is no doubt that the Biden-Lugar bill (now termed the Kerry-Lugar bill because Senator Kerry is now the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee), which calls for the providing of $1.5 billion annually in economic assistance to Pakistan for a period of five years with the recommendation that it be extended for another five, has the new administration’s blessings and will probably have a high priority in the legislative programme that Obama will put forward to Congress.

There is also no doubt that this pledge will be the centre-piece that the new Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will put on the table when the ‘Friends of Pakistan’ meet in March. It would not be surprising if assurances to this effect were held out by Vice President Biden when he visited Pakistan a few days ago.

Obama has also tried to emphasise that he believes that greater democracy would be one way of tackling the problem. In his message of congratulations to President Zardari in September, he praised the president for pledging to “return this office to its traditional stature, and return to Parliament the powers unconstitutionally appropriated to the presidency.” He went on to praise the president for the restoration of some of the judges of the superior judiciary, which he termed “an important step towards the restoration of a truly independent judiciary.”

Was this also something that was reiterated by Biden during his recent visit?

Obama has also said that a resolution of Pakistan’s disputes with India — specifically Kashmir — would help to ensure that Pakistan committed itself more fully to the battle against the violent extremism and terrorism that now pervade the Afghan-Pakistan border area. The Mumbai carnage and its devastating impact on the Indo-Pak dialogue have not made much difference to this thought. Whether any initiative that Obama takes will be any more successful than the Anglo-American effort in 1962 that led to 8 rounds of talks between foreign ministers Zulfikar Bhutto and Swaran Singh is another matter.

While all this indicates that Obama and his team want, for their own reasons, to promote democracy in Pakistan, to establish a durable US-Pak relationship, and work at easing Indo-Pak tensions, it is also apparent that events on the ground in both Pakistan and Afghanistan are a matter of grave concern. How Obama and his team will seek to tackle this will be examined in my next article.

The writer is a former foreign secretary
 

WASHINGTON (AFP) – US President Barack Obama on Thursday said Islamist extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan posed a grave threat that his new administration would tackle as a single problem under a wider strategy.

In announcing a special envoy to the region, Obama said the situation was "deteriorating" and that the war in Afghanistan could not be separated from the volatile border area with Pakistan, where Al-Qaeda and Taliban elements have regrouped.

"This is the central front in our enduring struggle against terrorism and extremism. There, as in the Middle East, we must understand that we cannot deal with our problems in isolation," Obama told employees of the State Department.

Obama, saying US strategy would be carefully reviewed, announced the appointment of seasoned diplomat Richard Holbrooke as a special representative to Pakistan and Afghanistan -- where the Taliban has come back from its ouster by US-led forces in 2001 to wage a bloody insurgency.

"There is no answer in Afghanistan that does not confront the Al-Qaeda and Taliban bases along the border, and there will be no lasting peace unless we expand spheres of opportunity for the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan," Obama said.

"This is truly an international challenge of the highest order."

As a candidate, Obama accused his predecessor of taking his "eye off the ball" by invading Iraq. He has vowed to send more combat troops to Afghanistan and reiterated Thursday he would place a higher priority on the region.

Obama said Holbrooke "will help lead our effort to forge and implement a strategic and sustainable approach to this critical region."

"My administration is committed to refocusing attention and resources on Afghanistan and Pakistan and to spending those resources wisely."

But the new president gave a stark assessment of the conditions in Afghanistan and its border with Pakistan, warning "that the American people and the international community must understand that the situation is perilous and progress will take time."

He said violence was up sharply in Afghanistan and that "Al-Qaeda and the Taliban strike from bases embedded in rugged tribal terrain along the Pakistani border."

"And while we have yet to see another attack on our soil since 9/11, Al-Qaeda terrorists remain at large and remain plotting."

US intelligence agencies suspect Osama bin Laden and other Al-Qaeda figures are operating out of the mountainous border region of Pakistan near Afghanistan.

Holbrooke, best known for forging a peace agreement in 1995 that ended bloodshed in Bosnia, said that Afghanistan and Pakistan were two "distinct" countries entwined by history and ethnic ties.

"This is a very difficult assignment as we all know," said Holbrooke, once dubbed the "Bulldozer" for his no-holds-barred negotiating style in the Balkans.

Obama said that the US diplomatic effort would include working with NATO allies and other states in the region, which could include central Asian countries and India -- arch-rival to Pakistan.

Tensions between the nuclear-armed adversaries spiked after attacks on Mumbai that India blamed on Pakistani militants and "official" agencies. But Islamabad has denied government agencies played any role in the November 26-29 assault that left 174 dead.
 
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