Oh Syria the Victory is Coming | Sheikh Muhammad Al Arifi

[Bratva]

I remember the rising of Iranian People, how they stood up against Shah of Iran and now a person like Shah is ruling Syria and when people is rising against him Iran is supporting Assad? Pathetic and Ironic anyone?

 

[lem34]

I remember the rising of Iranian People, how they stood up against Shah of Iran and now a person like Shah is ruling Syria and when people is rising against him Iran is supporting Assad? Pathetic and Ironic anyone?

why dont you or any other that support anti govt forces answer the point raise in Post 18 instead of emotive non relevant analogies

 

[BordoEnes]

Please answer this and we will discuss

I have put the post below on a number of threads and on no occasion has anyone rebutted anything I have stated and as far as I am concerned it stands:

I have heard the argument about human rights and killings going on in Syria but quite frankly it is very difficult in the fog of civil war or any war to actually get to the truth of the matter.

Let me tell you why I would be more than reluctant to support anyone in Syria

If it is a true revolution and even a significant minority wish to come out on the streets a country is ungovernable. Lets take the example of Pakistan. Our population is reputed to be 180 million people. If just 20% of the people decide that they want to come out on the streets that would be be 36 million. We have one of the largest standing armies in the world, we have our blessed ISI we have nukes. Even with these forces and nukes what could our army do??? Use nukes on our own people?? That would be the end. You will note it does not even require a majority to come on the streets. In practical terms the overwhelming number of people want to have security, a roof on their head and food on the table and could not give a monkey's who runs the country.

Now lets take the example of Libya-The rebels or whatever you want to call them could barely get out of Benghazi even though they were being funded and armed by third parties from outside the country. I am off the firm opinion in hindsight that Gaddaffi was less than wise because I think it is likely he would have done relatively well in any election and he should have attempted to legitamise his rule.

Had it not been for Nato's role in my opinion it is doubtful that the rebels could have succeeded.

Even after intervention we have a very unstable Libya wwith west stealing oil

Now lets look at UK and US in recent months we have had riots and civil disobedience. These disturbances have been dismissed as the actions of criminals and undesirables. If a foreign power was to lets say start supplying weapons and moral support these so called criminals and undesirables what could or would happen??

One mans rebel is another man's criminal and undesirable.

Who decides what the majority in a country wants in Syria?? Who decides that Assad is a dictator and must be removed whilst at the same time ignoring what is happening in Bahrain?? Who decides when to support dissident voices in a country. I mean every country has voices that don't agree with their government.

I could go on but you might get bored but you get the picture I hope.

The best we can do is pray for and hope is that the Syrian people themselves decide with as little bloodshed as possible a conclusion to the unrest.

One mans rebel is another man's criminal and undesirable.

Enough said...

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Mate why do you listen to Fox news??

And why do always watch Press TV?

 

[King Solomon]

I have not yet spotted one Zionist in the forum who supports Bashar al Assad, like PteX above. All of them hates Bashar, just like all Arabs. Tells you a lot about their relationship, or should I say, the Arab intellect.

 

[lem34]

And why do always watch Press TV?

I watch both and others and make up my own mind because all speak from a different perspective why dont you respond to post 18? try convince me rationally and logically that you are right

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I remember the rising of Iranian People, how they stood up against Shah of Iran and now a person like Shah is ruling Syria and when people is rising against him Iran is supporting Assad? Pathetic and Ironic anyone?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH... VERY WELL SAID...

 

[lem34]

I have not yet spotted one Zionist in the forum who supports Bashar al Assad, like PteX above. All of them hates Bashar, just like all Arabs. Tells you a lot about their relationship, or should I say, the Arab intellect.

America and Israel dont care who rules Syria as long as it is weakened and to that end they work. Others your idea is as good as any I can think of

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I watch both and others and make up my own mind because all speak from a different perspective why dont you respond to post 18? try convince me rationally and logically that you are right

I am exhausted from discussing the very same points over and over, you can review the posts in the Syrian thread and I am sure you will find the answers you are looking for.

 

[King Solomon]

America and Israel dont care who rules Syria as long as it is weakened and to that end they work. Others your idea is as good as any I can think of

So basically Arabs are playing in the hands of Israel? That's why I said "Arab intellect".

 

[regular]

I've completely changed my mind on Syria after listening to this speaker..

I hope we (the Turks) will be the ones who are soon honoured to be the ones who will liberate our Syrian neigbors from the tryant called Assad.

But who is going to liberate the poor Afghan pplz and their country from the notorious occupation of the USA and NATO forces.....???.....

 

[BordoEnes]

America and Israel dont care who rules Syria as long as it is weakened and to that end they work. Others your idea is as good as any I can think of

Since Syria is already an Economicly, Politicly and Geogreohicly unstable weak nation, Its doesnt mather if Assad stays or not so why are you making such a deal out of supporting rebels?...

 

[regular]

I hate these Mullahs/scholars/leaders infront talking against US/NATO but on inside getting money from them and backstabbibg the innocent Muslim brotherz just for the sake of $$$.....shame on these evil liars and traitors......May Allah SBWT send them straight to the hell along with their evil masterz......

 

[lem34]

Since Syria is already an Economicly, Politicly and Geogreohicly unstable weak nation, Its doesnt mather if Assad stays or not so why are you making such a deal out of supporting rebels?...

Mate I think you got the wrong picture. my position is that dialogue must be encouraged and elections. Arming factions will lead to killing and Afghanistan Iraq Libya type of messes. I want Syrians to stop and solve their problems without any outside interference from people of questionable motives

I am exhausted from discussing the very same points over and over, you can review the posts in the Syrian thread and I am sure you will find the answers you are looking for.

No you don't you just paste some pics of dead people on here which I think is insulting to the dead and their families and proves nothing

So basically Arabs are playing in the hands of Israel? That's why I said "Arab intellect".

Having thought about it you are probably correct lol

One mans rebel is another man's criminal and undesirable.

Enough said...

Not just that. How do we know who a majority of Syrians want without free and fair election etc

 

[BordoEnes]

Mate I think you got the wrong picture. my position is that dialogue must be encouraged and elections. Arming factions will lead to killing and Afghanistan Iraq Libya type of messes. I want Syrians to stop and solve their problems without any outside interference from people of questionable motives

Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya is western made ****(Rebels i mean), Free Syrian army is self made against upression and for liberty. There is a huge difference between that.

Not just that. How do we know who a majority of Syrians want without free and fair election etc

Because anyone in the right mind wouldnt support a regime responsable for Massacres, Murders, Torchire and upression.