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WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama vetoed the idea of a Seal 6 team tasked with killing Osama bin Laden surrendering if surrounded by Pakistani troops. Instead, he planned to "rain hell" on the Pakistani military in such an eventuality, stirring new insights into the Abbottabad invasion that nailed the world's No.1 terrorist has revealed.

An exhaustive account of the Abbottabad raid in Esquire magazine by Phil Bronstein, former Editor of the San Francisco Chronicle, provides granular details of the foray based on interviews with the Seal 6 commando who shot bin Laden dead, identifying him merely as the "shooter." Discussions during the planning stages looked at what would happen if they were surrounded by Pakistani troops. The original plan was to surrender and have Vice-President Joe Biden fly to Islamabad and negotiate their release.

But President Obama called it differently. "This is hearsay, but I understand Obama said, Hell no. My guys are not surrendering. What do we need to rain hell on the Pakistani military?" Bronstein paraphrases the shooter as saying. The commando also makes known his admiration for the President: That was the one time in my life I was thinking, I am f**king voting for this guy. I had a picture of him lying in bed at night, thinking, You're not f***king with my guys. Like, he's thinking about us.

The Seal6 team later gets word that the US would be scrambling jets on the border to back up the raiding party. The Shooter talks of writing tear-stained letters to his children to be delivered in case of their death because the chances of returning alive were not initially rated very high. "It was either death or a Pakistani prison, where we'd be raped for the rest of our lives," he says.

The actual confrontation itself resulting in his nailing bin Laden dead lasts only a few seconds, as the Shooter encounters him on the third floor of the Abbottabad mansion. "He had his hands on a woman's shoulders, pushing her ahead, not exactly toward me but by me, in the direction of the hallway commotion. It was his youngest wife, Amal...the SEALs had nightscopes, but it was coal-black for bin Laden and the other residents. He can hear but he can't see...He looked confused. And way taller than I was expecting...He was holding her in front of him. Maybe as a shield, I don't know,' the Seal 6 shooter recalls.

Further: "He's got a gun on a shelf right there, the short AK he's famous for. And he's moving forward. I don't know if she's got a vest and she's being pushed to martyr them both. He's got a gun within reach. He's a threat. I need to get a head shot so he won't have a chance to clack himself off [blow himself up]. In that second, I shot him, two times in the forehead. Bap! Bap! The second time as he's going down. He crumpled onto the floor in front of his bed and I hit him again, Bap! same place."

The raid is not without its moment of humor and pathos. The Shooter describes how going into the raid he had a full bladder and had to relieve himself into a bottle. "I forgot until later that when I shot bin Laden in the face, I had a bottle of piss in my pocket," he recounts. He also talks of listening later to phone calls between al-Qaida operatives trying to figure out who ratted on bin Laden. He quotes "funny terrorists" as saying, "I heard he did it to himself. He was locked up in that house with three wives."
 
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That means he has no respect for Pakistan soviernity and its military establishment .
I thought Pakistan and USA were once allies that profounds the meaning of friendship into another height !! :D
 
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Wonder how 6 guys could take care of a siege :confused:

But I understand USA's stance in this, and Pakistani military was very incompetent on not killing OBL... Better to walk out in shame
 
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Wonder how 6 guys could take care of a siege :confused:

But I understand USA's stance in this, and Pakistani military was very incompetent on not killing OBL... Better to walk out in shame

There were more than 6. And US had jets on standby apparently. And your F-16s would be useless against them.:lol:
 
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This news is rubbish, apparently Phil Bronstein writer for Esquire magazine wrote these things in his article after interviewing the Navy Seals (allegedly).

Had the mission gone wrong, the Seal says the original plan was for Vice-President Biden fly to Islamabad and negotiate their release with Pakistan, but that Barack Obama rejected the plan in favour of a military response.

“This is hearsay, but I understand Obama said, ‘Hell no’,” the Seal said. “My guys are not surrendering. What do we need to rain hell on the Pakistani military?”

So even his source says this is "hearsay", whether it's hearsay or not there is no chance of Obama raining hell on the Pakistani military, and the Vice President recognizes that and that is why he supported the surrender option. Obama thinks of himself as a hero in all things so it's not surprising he doesn't understand the limitations of military force. Had PM decided to engage intruders there is no doubt that would have brought end to their operation.

'In that second, I shot him': Navy Seal who killed bin Laden tells of pulling the trigger - Telegraph
 
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Wonder how 6 guys could take care of a siege :confused:

But I understand USA's stance in this, and Pakistani military was very incompetent on not killing OBL... Better to walk out in shame

This is the US we are talking about !!
All your military hardware would count to nothing against Uncle Sam . Perhaps this may be the reason Pakistani army choze the option of remaining quite :D
 
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I used to live in the area...
There is a giraff radar stationed up on the mountains right across the valley and it sees the whole valley from a height of 5000 feet.
I cant think of a reason how this radar could not see incoming helos...
Most probably there was an undisclosed deal between Pak and US to let this drama happen,as President Obama had to use it extensively in his election campaign..
 
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USA-sweet bastards :D
Trigger happy cowboys! From Vietnam to Iraq to Somalia and to Afghanistan where they are getting their a$$es kicked! Obama's 'raining hell on Pakistan' means the same as Bush's famous 'bomb Pakistan back to the stone age'!

I love that Yankee bluster! Sounds dandy and hip!! :cheesy:
 
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I used to live in the area...
There is a giraff radar stationed up on the mountains right across the valley and it sees the whole valley from a height of 5000 feet.
I cant think of a reason how this radar could not see incoming helos...
Most probably there was an undisclosed deal between Pak and US to let this drama happen,as President Obama had to use it extensively in his election campaign..

Look at the other side of the coin !!
If that is the case then maybe your radar didnt detected the heli as it is the choppers were stealthy .

Considering the "Drone Drizzle" that has been going on, I agree that US would have "Rain hell". :D

Actually the US is raining hell from a long time now maybe 4 years .
 
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Indians going wild on this thread...

Customer is waiting for you on the phone, answer her and then come & post

They are going wild with their over inflated egos all over the forums. Hence the crappy quality topics/ posts of PDF these days.

Anyways, I actually do believe Obama was ready for some other plan but that would have led to something unpleasant to not only the two countries but the whole world.

In before, Indian vomit without any logic.
 
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