Obama Says China’s Infrastructure Puts the U.S. to Shame

[gambit]

This is a typical 'masturbatory' thread.

As an industrialized country, the US is at least 100yrs older than China, so naturally American cities' infrastructures are going to show their age. But in the same token, the fact that American cities held up and served the American people all this time is testament to the engineering prowess, maintenance, and resiliency of all involved. Barack Obama is a smart man but temporarily an idiot in making that comment.

I guess the circle jerk over at the Chinese playground over this did not have enough attention and participants so it had to be started here.

 

[Aepsilons]

Good for China, they have to work extra hard to ensure that the resources and services are reached through every corner of the nation's populace. There's no reason to compare developmental projects in China with the United States, as the latter has been developed for 4 decades now. Essentially, the United States merely updates and maintains said infrastructure it already has. Whereas the Chinese still are pouring resources to develop the interior of the country, still.

No need to compare. No need to berate one another.

This is a typical 'masturbatory' thread.

As an industrialized country, the US is at least 100yrs older than China, so naturally American cities' infrastructures are going to show their age. But in the same token, the fact that American cities held up and served the American people all this time is testament to the engineering prowess, maintenance, and resiliency of all involved. Barack Obama is a smart man but temporarily an idiot in making that comment.

I guess the circle jerk over at the Chinese playground over this did not have enough attention and participants so it had to be started here.

Well said. Its like comparing China's infrastructure development to Japan. No comparison as Japan has been developed since the 1960s, and in itself is already super-developed.

China in the present was the United States in the 1960s, 1970s. In terms of developmental stage.

There is no comparison. Now perhaps in say 20, 30 years, China should reach parity of the United States in the present.

Besides, these americans prefer to live in houses that can burn down easily <.<

That's because Americans have services that home owners can avail of. Besides, every home owner in the US has this:

Home Insurance

 

[gambit]

Good for China, they have to work extra hard to ensure that the resources and services are reached through every corner of the nation's populace. There's no reason to compare developmental projects in China with the United States, as the latter has been developed for 4 decades now. Essentially, the United States merely updates and maintains said infrastructure it already has. Whereas the Chinese still are pouring resources to develop the interior of the country, still.

No need to compare. No need to berate one another.




Well said. Its like comparing China's infrastructure development to Japan. No comparison as Japan has been developed since the 1960s, and in itself is already super-developed.

China in the present was the United States in the 1960s, 1970s. In terms of developmental stage.

There is no comparison. Now perhaps in say 20, 30 years, China should reach parity of the United States in the present.

These guys really cracked me up. So often they boasted about that 'high Chinese IQ' but usually they do not see the absurdity they spewed such as this one.

If this is about the car then I would dare say every American would agree -- that the Japanese, the Germans, or perhaps even the Chinese have put US in our place. But no one lives in the car and precisely because no one lives in the car, the platform is amenable to changes, at an annual basis if desired, and that is exactly what is happening. The car, the washer/dryer, the microwave oven, or the vacuum cleaner can be exportable. A country's bridges, tunnels, or rails -- cannot. When these things were built, they were built with the best available technical knowledge, tools, and materials, and because the builders know these things must withstand time, a constant, but loads and stresses are not constants, and weather is somewhat predictable, these bridges, tunnels, and rails systems must be overbuilt. With time passed and technology increases, naturally the later generations will reap the benefits of what was done before them and they will build better bridges, tunnels, or rails.

I guess these guys got tire of holding/jerking each other's dicks over this at their playground so they must convene another circle jerk here.

 

[Beast]

tornado deaths
1840: 317
1896: 255
1899: 117
1902: 114
1908: 143
1913: 103
1917: 101
1925: 695
1936: 216
1936: 203
1944: 100
1947: 181
1953: 116
1953: 114
2011: 162

3053 in total (in the last 100 years 1,888)

China had 68,000 killed in 2008 from a single earthquake.

You are lucky that no major earthquakes strike US for last few decades. And China has a denser population compare US. If you really want to compare infrastruture against natural disaster. Let's compare flood for last 10years. It is the best way to gauge whether you are infrastruture adequate against natural disaster.

 

[Steakhouse]

tornado deaths
1840: 317
1896: 255
1899: 117
1902: 114
1908: 143
1913: 103
1917: 101
1925: 695
1936: 216
1936: 203
1944: 100
1947: 181
1953: 116
1953: 114
2011: 162

3053 in total (in the last 100 years 1,888)

China had 68,000 killed in 2008 from a single earthquake.

You compare the tornado strike in the vast land of Midwest, Mideast in the US with majority of the population live scatter across land and majority of the house were build with tornadoes shelter in them, also the early tornadoes warning system save a lot of lives when the tornadoes hit. The earthquake hit China killed many people because it hit in a heavily populated area, of course with an earthquake in a large population area, the casualty would increase many folds.

 

[sicsheep]

tornado deaths
1840: 317
1896: 255
1899: 117
1902: 114
1908: 143
1913: 103
1917: 101
1925: 695
1936: 216
1936: 203
1944: 100
1947: 181
1953: 116
1953: 114
2011: 162

3053 in total (in the last 100 years 1,888)

China had 68,000 killed in 2008 from a single earthquake.

List of deadliest Atlantic hurricanes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Steakhouse]

You are lucky that no major earthquakes strike US for last few decades. And China has a denser population compare US. If you really want to compare infrastruture against natural disaster. Let's compare flood for last 10years. It is the best way to gauge whether you are infrastruture adequate against natural disaster.

Ask him about the San Francisco earthquake, how many people were dead in that quake alone.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

List of deadliest Atlantic hurricanes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Still not many compared to an earthquake. Plus most of the numbers count both the US and other countries mixed together.

Earthquakes kill more people in an instant than some tornado or hurricane. Not much of a warning to prepare.

Ask him about the San Francisco earthquake, how many people were dead in that quake alone.

~3000 in a 7.8 quake
the 2008 quake in China was 7.9

 

[Steakhouse]

Still not many compared to an earthquake. Plus most of the numbers count both the US and other countries mixed together.

Earthquakes kill more people in an instant than some tornado or hurricane. Not much of a warning to prepare.



~3000 in a 7.8 quake
the 2008 quake in China was 7.9

3000 death toll in a 400,000 population. What the population in th area 2008 earthquake hit China?

 

[thesolar65]

As far as I feel, Infrastructure is not sexy. You can build any number of infrastructure, but maintaining it is a nightmare!!

 

[cirr]

China's infrastructure will be a lot better in 20 years than it is today。

Comprehensive improvements in all sectors and aspects。

The plan is set and die-casted for investments worth hundreds of trillions of yuans。

The Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei area alone requires investments to the tune of 46 trillion yuan。

The long march has barely made its start。

 

[Beast]

Some American just cant accept the superiority of Chinese facilities.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You are lucky that no major earthquakes strike US for last few decades. And China has a denser population compare US. If you really want to compare infrastruture against natural disaster. Let's compare flood for last 10years. It is the best way to gauge whether you are infrastruture adequate against natural disaster.

Do you mean people killed?

List of deadliest floods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US
2005 Katrina 69 people

China
2004 China flood, 1,029 people
2005 Fujian, Anhui, Zhejiang flood, 1,624 people
2007 China flood, mountain ********, mud-rock flows 1,348 people
2008 South China floods 200+ people
2010 China floods, landslides 1,072+ people

Looks like we come out on top according to the gauge you yourself says shows who has the best infrastructure.