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Obama just took a parting shot at Israel — and Trump — at the UN
Updated by Jennifer Williamsjennifer@vox.com Dec 23, 2016, 5:37pm EST TWEET
US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power attends the UN Security Council meeting on December 23, 2016, where the US voted to abstain on a UN Security Council resolution that demands Israel stop settlement activities on Palestinian territories.
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President Barack Obama has decided to go out with a bang: In a stunning diplomatic rebuke of Israel, the United States on Friday abstained on a controversial United Nations Security Council resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory, allowing it to easily pass.

By abstaining — instead of vetoing the resolution, as the United States has reliably done to similar measures for decades — the Obama administration allowed the highly symbolic measure to make it through the chamber.

It was the first time in nearly 40 years that the Security Council has passed a resolution critical of Israeli settlements. It was also a firm rebuke of both Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who had strongly argued against it, and President-elect Donald Trump, who had taken the highly unprecedented move of weighing in Thursday and pressing for the measure to be vetoed.

The measure demands that Israel “immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem” and declares that the establishment of settlements by Israel has “no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law.”


This is far stronger language than the United States has ever officially used to describe Israeli settlement activity before. Although the standard US position has for three decades been that such settlements, which are built on land intended to be part of a future Palestinian state, are “obstacles to peace,” the United States has always stopped short of describing them as “illegal” under international law.

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The Obama administration’s stunning vote was thus a dramatic shift in longstanding US policy. And it was no accident.

The move was Obama’s parting shot at Netanyahu, with whom Obama repeatedly clashed throughout his tenure. As my colleague Zeeshan Aleem writes, although the Obama administration gave Israel a bigger military aid package than any US president in history, and has vetoed past UN condemnations of settlements, Obama had a “tense and at times outright hostile relationship with the right-wing Netanyahu.” Among other things, they clashed over Israeli settlement expansion and the terms of the controversial Iran nuclear deal.


But Obama’s parting shot was also aimed at Trump, who has indicated he wants to take a much stronger pro-Israel stance. For instance, he has said he wants to move the US embassy to Jerusalem: a step that, as my colleague Zack Beauchamp explains, “every US government has refrained from doing because the future of the disputed city is meant to be resolved as part of direct talks between the two sides for a final status peace deal.”

And Trump’s newly named ambassador to Israel, David Friedman — who has been a personal friend of Trump’s for about 15 years — is staunchly pro-settlement.

Indeed, it seems that an unprecedented intervention by Trump himself — in the form of a personal phone call to Egyptian president Abdel Fattah el-Sisi — is the primary reason why Egypt, which had initially sponsored the UN measure, decided on Thursday to delay the vote indefinitely.

Mere hours before the vote was scheduled to take place, Trump issued a statement onFacebook calling for the US to veto the measure. Shortly after, Egypt announced it would be delaying the vote. Trump spokesman Sean Spicer later confirmed that Trump had indeed spoken directly with both Sisi and Netanyahu about the proposed Security Council action. Friday’s resolution was sponsored by New Zealand, Malaysia, Venezuela, and Senegal — not Egypt.

It may very well have been this stunning intervention by Trump, directly meddling in a major US foreign policy decision before he has even taken office, that ultimately pushed Obama to take the dramatic step of abstaining on Friday’s vote.

Shortly after the UN measure passed on Friday, Trump reacted on Twitter by suggesting he intends to take a stronger line on defending Israel at the UN when he takes office:


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http://www.vox.com/world/2016/12/23/14071550/united-nations-vote-israeli-settlements-obama-trump
 
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Bye bye support to the Democrat party from Jewish groups for a good long time.

You'd be surprised how many Jewish people here think Israelis are nuts (edit: of course I'm sure they probably think the Palestinians are even nuttier)
Not anywhere near 100% obviously. But remember most of the real hardcore ones moved to Israel and the less hardcore ones remained here.

Of course there are plenty of rich hardcore people here. Money is money.
 
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Bye bye palestine, its time to drop the idea of Palestine...
 
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US president-elect reacts after UN Security Council voted in favour of calling for an end to Israeli settlements.

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It is the first resolution the Security Council has adopted on Israel and the Palestinians in nearly eight years. [Abed Al Hashlamoni/EPA]


Donald Trump has vowed to change things at the United Nations when he takes over at the White House next month, after the UN Security Council's vote in favour of a resolution demanding the halt of settlement activity by Israel in occupied Palestinian territory.

The resolution was put forward at the 15-member council for a vote on Friday by New Zealand, Malaysia, Venezuela and Senegal a day after Egypt withdrew it under pressurefrom Israel and US president-elect Trump.

Israel and Trump had called on the US to veto the measure but it ended up abstaining, resulting in the resolution being adopted with 14 votes in favour to a resounding round of applause.


It is the first resolution the Security Council has adopted on Israel and the Palestinians in nearly eight years.


"This is a day of victory for international law, a victory for civilised language and negotiation and a total rejection of extremist forces in Israel," chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told Reuters news agency.

"The international community has told the people of Israel that the way to security and peace is not going to be done through occupation ... but rather through peace, ending the occupation and establishing a Palestinian state to live side by side with the state of Israel on the 1967 line," Erekat said.

Sharif Nashashibi, a London-based analyst of Arab political affairs, told Al Jazeera: "It's historic in the sense that it's been decades since the US has done that [abstained].

"But, in my opinion, it's merely symbolic precisely for that reason, because there are already UN Security Council resolutions in existence that call for pretty much the same thing that this resolution has done."

He added: "These resolutions are decades old and they are just gathering dust. Israel has been allowed to flout them. My fear is that this will just be one of those resolutions that Israel can flout.

"We don't have any mechanism to put tangible pressure on Israel to abide by this resolution, so I fear that despite the passing of this resolution, the Security Council has still proved itself largely irrelevant to this conflict."

On Saturday, Israel refused to recognise the UN resolution and retaliated by recalling its ambassador to New Zealand and Senegal.

"Israel rejects this shameful anti-Israel resolution at the UN and will not abide by its terms." said Netanyahu.

READ MORE: UN Security Council urges end to Israeli settlements

"At a time when the Security Council does nothing to stop the slaughter of half-a-million people in Syria, it disgracefully gangs up on the one true democracy in the Middle East, Israel, and calls the Western Wall 'occupied territory'."

New Zealand Foreign Minister Murray McCully said the decision should have been no surprise to Israel which knew Wellington's position long before the UN vote.


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"Israel has informed us of their decision to recall their ambassador to New Zealand for consultations," McCully told AFP news agency in a statement.

"We have been very open about our view that the [Security Council] should be doing more to support the Middle East peace process and the position we adopted today is totally in line with our long established policy on the Palestinian question.

"The vote today should not come as a surprise to anyone and we look forward to continuing to engage constructively with all parties on this issue."

The resolution demands that "Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem."

Malaysia and Venezuela also sponsored the UN resolution but do not have diplomatic relations with Israel.


Inside Story - Egypt pulls plug on UN vote on Israeli settlements


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It is good. Personally, I think Trump is the bottom of the American electoral barrel, and the funny thing is that most of the Trump supporters that I encountered admitted the same thing.

That said...It is time the US reassess our relationship with the UN. While it may not be feasible in variety of ways that it is better for US to remain in the UN, the US should no longer be passive about what we expect from the UN. Ultimately, no country needs a UN-type organization, and the one country that needs the UN the least -- the US. I have always advocated the US leaving the UN and Trump should make that threat. That will force the necessary reforms into the UN, particularly corruption.
 
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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Days after the United Nations voted to condemn Israeli settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, Donald Trump questioned its effectiveness Monday, saying it's just a club for people to "have a good time."

The president-elect wrote on Twitter that the U.N. has "such great potential," but it has become "just a club for people to get together, talk and have a good time. So sad!"

On Friday, Trump warned, "As to the U.N., things will be different after Jan. 20th," referring to the day he takes office.


The decision by the Obama administration to abstain from Friday's U.N. vote brushed aside Trump's demands that the U.S. exercise its veto and provided a climax to years of icy relations with Israel's leadership.

Trump told The Associated Press last December that he wanted to be "very neutral" on Israel-Palestinian issues. But his tone became decidedly more pro-Israel as the presidential campaign progressed. He has spoken disparagingly of Palestinians, saying they have been "taken over" by or are condoning militant groups.

Trump's tweet Monday about the U.N. ignores much of the work that goes on in the 193-member global organization.

This year the U.N. Security Council has approved over 70 legally binding resolutions, including new sanctions on North Korea and measures tackling conflicts and authorizing the U.N.'s far-flung peacekeeping operations around the world. The General Assembly has also approved dozens of resolutions on issues, like the role of diamonds in fueling conflicts; condemned human rights abuses in Iran and North Korea; and authorized an investigation of alleged war crimes in Syria.

Trump's criticism of the U.N. is by no means unique. While the organization does engage in large-scale humanitarian and peacekeeping efforts, its massive bureaucracy has long been a source of controversy. The organization has been accused by some Western governments of being inefficient and frivolous, while developing nations have said it is overly influenced by wealthier nations.

Trump tweeted later Monday, "The world was gloomy before I won — there was no hope. Now the market is up nearly 10 percent and Christmas spending is over a trillion dollars!"

Markets are up since Trump won the general election, although not quite by that much. The Standard & Poor's 500 is up about 6 percent since Election Day, while the Dow has risen more than 8 percent.

As for holiday spending, auditing and accounting firm Deloitte projected in September that total 2016 holiday sales were expected to exceed $1 trillion, representing a 3.6 percent to 4.0 percent increase in holiday sales from November through January.

Finally, Trump took to Twitter again late Monday to complain about media coverage of his charitable foundation. He wrote that of the "millions of dollars" he has contributed to or raised for the Donald J. Trump Foundation, all of it "is given to charity, and media won't report."

Trump said Saturday he will dissolve his charitable foundation before taking office to avoid conflicts of interest. The New York attorney general's office has been investigating the foundation following media reports that foundation spending went to benefit Trump's campaign.

The president-elect is spending the holidays at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. He had no public schedule Monday.

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Associated Press writer Edith Lederer in New York contributed to this report.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dcd6...trump-says-un-just-club-people-have-good-time

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This statement is very beneficial for India as India always said that UN is a useless organization and rejected Pakistan demands of UN mediae on Kashmir.

On the other hand this harms Pakistani demands of UN mediation on Kashmir as now US president elect himself called UN a useless organization.
 
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We all know he is just trolling the UN. UN is as effective as its member states. IF member states use UN for political photo ops then don't blame the UN for it.

He just appointed Nikki Haley for UN ambassador.
 
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