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NEW DELHI: While his inauguration was feted by many nations, India is worried Barack Obama will not give it the unqualified diplomatic and security backing it seeks, not least over Kashmir.

India and United States are at their closest in years and analysts expect them to remain friends, but spiralling insecurity in South Asia, from Afghanistan to Mumbai, has unearthed bones of contention.

The central fear is that Obama and his Western allies will become more involved in efforts to urge India to find a solution to Kashmir as part of a broader strategy to bring stability to Pakistan and Afghanistan, strategic affairs analysts and former diplomats say.There have been a growing number of think-tanks and strategic experts, some linked to the Obama administration, who believe that finding a solution to Kashmir would rid the region of one of its chief sources of Islamist militant recruitment.

“The government of India has been exuding this type of concern,” said C. Uday Bhaskar, a New Delhi-based strategic analyst.

Kashmir, ruled in parts but claimed in full by nuclear-armed rivals India and Pakistan, has been at the centre of regional tensions for decades.

No outside influence

But India sees Kashmir as a bilateral issue and dismisses any outside influence. Telling India to discuss Kashmir is akin to telling China to discuss the future of Tibet.

When Obama suggested during his campaign that a special envoy was needed for Kashmir, he was criticised by Indian media. Even talk of a wider South Asia envoy makes Delhi nervous.“It is natural that Indians feel jittery with the public statements made by Obama,” said Siddharth Varadarajan, strategic affairs editor of the Hindu newspaper.

Worries were fuelled last week when visiting British Foreign Secretary David Miliband also raised the Kashmir dispute and said a solution would bolster regional stability.

“There is a worry that Miliband’s discourse was similar to Obama’s; that this represents some shift in thinking,” Varadarajan said.

“It is this sense of tying Afghanistan and Kashmir in one big package that has many Indians very upset.”

Underlying this unease is the fact that the Indian government had good relations with former President George W. Bush, who pushed a deal allowing India access to civilian nuclear technology and reversed decades of non-proliferation policies.

“India has had a very good ride with Bush,” said Bhaskar.

“The Democrats come with a lot of baggage.”

Former diplomats and analysts say many Indian officials are suspicious of some Democrats, who have either opposed the nuclear deal or are cautious about India’s regional intentions.

“There is a group of neocons in the Indian government that wanted McCain to win,” said Brahma Chellaney, professor of strategic studies at the Centre for Policy Research. “They are uncomfortable of an unknown commodity that is Obama.”

There are also worries that Obama, with so much on his plate, will not push Pakistan as hard as India wants to arrest those behind November’s Mumbai attacks.

But this may all be just short-term blues.

India is just too important in global affairs for Washington to annoy and Delhi holds some aces – not least as US firms bid to supply fighters worth $10 billion in one of the world’s biggest arms deals.—Reuters
 
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NEW DELHI: While his inauguration was feted by many nations, India is worried Barack Obama will not give it the unqualified diplomatic and security backing it seeks, not least over Kashmir.

Why should India or anybody else should get Unqualified backing on diplomatic, security or economic levels.
India and United States are at their closest in years and analysts expect them to remain friends, but spiralling insecurity in South Asia, from Afghanistan to Mumbai, has unearthed bones of contention.

New Govt wont be as generous as Bush's Regime, I mean giving India the access to NSG with signing any kind of treaty.
But India sees Kashmir as a bilateral issue and dismisses any outside influence. Telling India to discuss Kashmir is akin to telling China to discuss the future of Tibet.

Lamb Excuse Indeed.
When Obama suggested during his campaign that a special envoy was needed for Kashmir, he was criticised by Indian media. Even talk of a wider South Asia envoy makes Delhi nervous.“It is natural that Indians feel jittery with the public statements made by Obama,” said Siddharth Varadarajan, strategic affairs editor of the Hindu newspaper.

If Kashmiri People are with India as they claim in the recent polls and Indian Army is not the one who is committing Terrorism there and its the Pakistani based Lashkars who are doing Terrorism then why the hell is India scared if there is a some special envoy for the region. May be the Truth will be exposed and it will Hurt Indian Interests big Time.
Worries were fuelled last week when visiting British Foreign Secretary David Miliband also raised the Kashmir dispute and said a solution would bolster regional stability.

India was really Pissed when Miliband said the truth that ISI was not involved, Pakistan should prosecute the convicts at home and India must show some patience.

“It is this sense of tying Afghanistan and Kashmir in one big package that has many Indians very upset.”

Upset.....they are having some really scary Nightmares, loosing Kashmir and Loosing Feet from Afghanistan all together, It will be a Disaster for Indian agencies who are planning covert operations against Pakistan.
Underlying this unease is the fact that the Indian government had good relations with former President George W. Bush, who pushed a deal allowing India access to civilian nuclear technology and reversed decades of non-proliferation policies.

“India has had a very good ride with Bush,” said Bhaskar.

“The Democrats come with a lot of baggage.”

Indian Happy hours may be over as the tide is turning but still i don't see much change as Indian Lobby and Jewish lobby will force Obama's Strategy in favor of India. But will have some difficulties in having the same Privileges as before.

There are also worries that Obama, with so much on his plate, will not push Pakistan as hard as India wants to arrest those behind November’s Mumbai attacks.

India is trying to put all the blame on Pakistan that Pakistan is 100 % responsible for all the instability and terrorism in Kashmir and India is as innocent as an angel.

India is trying her level best and wants to take maximum gain out of this Mumbai incident so that they can hide their Terrorists acts in Kashmir.

India is just too important in global affairs for Washington to annoy and Delhi holds some aces – not least as US firms bid to supply fighters worth $10 billion in one of the world’s biggest arms deals.

Now thats the big issue, Economy is weak, Recession is at its peak, American Defence Industry is facing a Drought and 10 Billion is too Much for Defence Co-operations to force Obama to have Nice relations with India no doubt about that.
 
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I don't understand how he will bring a foreboding to the Indo-US relationship. India will not tolerate (and never did) outside interference in Kashmir Affair and Obama will be no exception. What leverage does they have vis-a-vis India.
 
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I don't understand how he will bring a foreboding to the Indo-US relationship. India will not tolerate (and never did) outside interference in Kashmir Affair and Obama will be no exception. What leverage does they have vis-a-vis India.

Boss you have no choice India will do wat the uncle says and so will Pak and any other countries in the world just about! iam starting to like this guy already ! it seems to be that your gov talks alot of > :blah: but in reality they never really want to come to the table for kashmir if they could have it there way they would love to linger this issue for ever u know it i know it we all know it the whole damn world knows it so wat is there not to understand very simple logic my friend write to your gov and tell them to come to peace and reailty and to work towards this issue then u and and all of us can understand wat u cant understand now ! :woot: :disagree:
 
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Boss you have no choice India will do wat the uncle says and so will Pak and any other countries in the world just about! iam starting to like this guy already ! it seems to be that your gov talks alot of > :blah: but in reality they never really want to come to the table for kashmir if they could have it there way they would love to linger this issue for ever u know it i know it we all know it the damn world knows it so wat is there not to understand very simple logic my friend ! :woot: :disagree:

Whenever our Govt. comes to the table, there is a back stabbing from the other side (read Kargil, Parliament attack, Mumbai attacks)
 
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Whenever our Govt. comes to the table, there is a back stabbing from the other side (read Kargil, Parliament attack, Mumbai attacks)

Oh plzz you got nothing better then that i suggest that u come with something more solid if u got nothing to back it up leave it ! hence the events u have stated have nothing to do with wat we are talking about here i could start naming a few my self from your side come with facts then we can talk dont change the subject :disagree: :tdown:
 
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i could start naming a few my self from your side come with facts then we can talk dont change the subject :disagree: :tdown:

Please do! Do enlighten us about Pakistan's peace initiatives! I would really like to know.
And dont include Kargil '99 or Dec 2001 Indian Parliament visit! We already know those.
 
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Please do! Do enlighten us about Pakistan's peace initiatives! I would really like to know.
And dont include Kargil '99 or Dec 2001 Indian Parliament visit! We already know those.

The world has asked your country to come to the damn table the UN , the US many other powers but you country seems to wana throw in other events cover up the rest plzzz take a break friend dont get excited it s the truth face it India doesnt wana come to the table all they do is :blah: no one is perfect but doesnt mean you put a issue like this off and we actually wating for you and your friends so why dont you enlighten us come with it >
 
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I remember during the Democratic debates between Obama and Hillary, Indians were all for Obama they were so happy when they thought that Obama will take action in Pakistan's territory near Afghanistan.

Now that Obama has made it clear that he never called for an invasion in Pakistan's teritory and he understands the 61 year old Kashmir dispute needs to be resolved, Indians are damn worried :lol:
 
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The world has asked your country to come to the damn table the UN , the US many other powers but you country seems to wana throw in other events cover up the rest plzzz take a break friend dont get excited it s the truth face it India doesnt wana come to the table all they do is :blah: no one is perfect but doesnt mean you put a issue like this off and we actually wating for your and your friends so why dont you enlighten us come with it >

Excuse me? What is it that you are trying to say? I got lost in that puzzle of words.
 
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Excuse me? What is it that you are trying to say?

Read if you can ! understand if u can ! agree upon the facts if you can ! futhermore dont ask me stupid questions! last time YOU COUNTRY DOESNT WANT TO RESLOVE THE KASHMIR ISSUE NOR WANTS ANY TYPE OF PEACE now i hope u get i was trying to tell you that ! took u 3 diff posts to understand that it end of topic :tsk: :wave:
 
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Once again, do NOT believe in anything that comes from foreign policiy makers from the U.S.
First see, then believe, that has always been the case.
So it has no use to get excited over a few words that could "possibly" be in favor of Pakistan or India for that matter.
First see then believe, something our Prime minister and President should consider when they hand out Pakistani prestigious awards to certain people.
 
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The only thing Obama is going to try to do in kashmir is to make the LoC the border.
 
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Boss you have no choice India will do wat the uncle says and so will Pak and any other countries in the world just about! iam starting to like this guy already ! it seems to be that your gov talks alot of > :blah: but in reality they never really want to come to the table for kashmir if they could have it there way they would love to linger this issue for ever u know it i know it we all know it the whole damn world knows it so wat is there not to understand very simple logic my friend write to your gov and tell them to come to peace and reailty and to work towards this issue then u and and all of us can understand wat u cant understand now ! :woot: :disagree:
Not really. India has a unmatched reputation to stick up to US every now and then. Our foreign policy is extremely independent. Examples:
1. NPT
2. CTBT
3. Global warming
4. Trade policies
5. etc etc.

As against some sheepish nations which find it easy to say "We will not do this because India is not doing it and vice versa"
 
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I remember during the Democratic debates between Obama and Hillary, Indians were all for Obama they were so happy when they thought that Obama will take action in Pakistan's territory near Afghanistan.

Now that Obama has made it clear that he never called for an invasion in Pakistan's teritory and he understands the 61 year old Kashmir dispute needs to be resolved, Indians are damn worried :lol:

No. We have never liked democrats.
 
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