Nuclear Power by Country | Kilowatt-Hours-kWh

[onebyone]

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Wow all that nuclear power expansion by China and they are still a small bar on the graph???

 

[Bilal9]

Wow all that nuclear power expansion by China and they are still a small bar on the graph???

Nuclear is still a minute portion of power generation in China. Coal and Renewable ones are a much larger portion. China leads in Renewable power generation. Growth in coal power generation is slowing per world trends.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Nuclear is still a minute portion of power generation in China. Coal and Renewable ones are a much larger portion. China leads in Renewable power generation. Growth in coal power generation is slowing per world trends.

and nuclear power station expansion slowed down significantly after Chernobyl as nobody wanted them anymore.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

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China coal power: 4000 TWh

US total power: 4000 TWh

 

[letsrock]

This makes no sense. china has the third highest capacity of nuclear power. why does it generate so low ?
I think the charts are incorrect.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China coal power: 4000 TWh

US total power: 4000 TWh

Population
China 1.4B 7500 TWh
US: 330M 4000 TWh

Seems an interesting discrepancy

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Population
China 1.4B 7500 TWh
US: 330M 4000 TWh

Seems an interesting discrepancy

China's electricity use per capita is the same as developed European countries like UK, Spain and Italy. Too much more and it's just inefficiency.

List of countries by electricity consumption - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

China is blessed with being a subtropical country with good weather like Italy and Spain.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Too much more and it's just inefficiency.

Um look at the chart. It's on a trajectory straight up. Is China's population doubling every 8 years or something?

China's electricity use per capita is the same as developed European countries like UK, Spain and Italy.

List of countries by electricity consumption - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

China is blessed with being a subtropical country with good weather like Italy and Spain.

So you don't want to compare to its industrialized Asian neighbors South Korea and Japan or maybe Singapore...but Spain and Italy are fine.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

So you don't want to compare to its industrialized Asian neighbors South Korea and Japan or maybe Singapore...but Spain and Italy are fine.

South Korea has the bad luck of being extremely cold. During the Korean War Chinese soldiers used to tropical and temperate climate had just as much trouble from the freezing weather as from actually fighting.

Singapore has the opposite problem and requires AC since they're equatorial.

Japan is very inefficient since lots of their processes were built in the 1970s.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

South Korea has the bad luck of being extremely cold. During the Korean War Chinese soldiers used to tropical and temperate climate had just as much trouble from the freezing weather as from actually fighting.

Singapore has the opposite problem and requires AC since they're equatorial.

Japan is very inefficient since lots of their processes were built in the 1970s.

If you are saying China mimics southern Europe's notorious historic aversion to using A/C then that may help explain it.

If Europe Goes All In For Air Conditioning, The Consequences Could Be Devastating

With scorching summers the new norm, will Europeans become as addicted to air conditioning as Americans already are?

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The majority of US homes do have both heating and A/C so no matter if you live in the frigid north or sweltering south the thermostat will keep the home year round at the temperature you prefer which I believe is 72F (22.2C).

 

[Bilal9]

China coal power: 4000 TWh

US total power: 4000 TWh

US has a lot less people. It has slightly twice the number of folks Bangladesh has, or about less than one third of China.

 

[Bilal9]

If you are saying China mimics southern Europe's notorious historic aversion to using A/C then that may help explain it.

If Europe Goes All In For Air Conditioning, The Consequences Could Be Devastating

With scorching summers the new norm, will Europeans become as addicted to air conditioning as Americans already are?

www.huffpost.com

The majority of US homes do have both heating and A/C so no matter if you live in the frigid north or sweltering south the thermostat will keep the home year round at the temperature you prefer which I believe is 72F (22.2C).

For Southern EU countries like Italy, Greece and Spain and other Mediterranean states its a seasonal thing. For the 100 degree F plus temps in summer in these EU areas you do need Aircon, but they have other strategies and tend to go without Aircon, which is a substantial electricity savings. Let's look at a Tropic of cancer map which actually does not tell regional differences for temps but I will explain.

However - it passes right through Bangladesh, and thanks to the jetstreams due to the rotation of earth, we see a lot of monsoons in Bangladesh, which tends to cool us down during the summer from say 100 F to around 85 or 90 (which locals have gotten used to). People do OK with fans and other methods (heat pumps etc. which have been in use since Mughal times). So Bangladeshis don't need A/C - though nowadays they are cheap enough and widely available. In the wintertime in Bangladesh, temps are very pleasant, around 70 F and humidity around 50%.

I don't know if China has Monsoons as well, but other than Beijing, Dalian and Shanghai in the very North, it seems most of China is in the same sweet spot weather-wise as EU Mediterranean states are. They might not even need fans in the summer indoors.

By the way, compared to Dhaka - Bangkok is a humid and very hot place because it is further south closer to equator. If you go further south to Vietnamese cities, Malaysian cities and then Singapore (right on the equator), temps/humidity are super high and you are looking at a sauna like Houston situation.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

If you are saying China mimics southern Europe's notorious historic aversion to using A/C then that may help explain it.

If Europe Goes All In For Air Conditioning, The Consequences Could Be Devastating

With scorching summers the new norm, will Europeans become as addicted to air conditioning as Americans already are?

www.huffpost.com

The majority of US homes do have both heating and A/C so no matter if you live in the frigid north or sweltering south the thermostat will keep the home year round at the temperature you prefer which I believe is 72F (22.2C).

Entire southern China has AC but no central heater. We don't need it, it is literally tropical. During winter just put on clothes.

China had 95% of households with AC even 15 years ago but use habits are much more efficient. ACs aren't set to Arctic... Just a little cooler than ambient.

In China, Air Conditioning Is Efficient Because of How It's Used, Not Just How It's Built

Americans have grown accustomed to hearing about rapid changes in China, but here is one you might not have thought about before: air conditioning. As I traveled through several of China’s major cities last week—Beijing, Nanjing, Suzhou, and Shanghai—I saw...

www.nrdc.org

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

which tends to cool us down during the summer from say 100 F to around 85 or 90 (which locals have gotten used to).

I think the ideal temperature target moves over time as countries develop. What one generation declares as comfortable the next finds unbearable. It finally comes to a point where everwhere is simply climate controlled to within a standard few degrees (homes, offices, schools, etc). If it is outside the spec people immediately notice.

China had 95% of households with AC even 15 years ago

I don't think so. That sounds very very illogical for China.

Hmmm reading your article confirms your mistake.

"This is a recent development. An article in the new OnEarth Magazine says that 20 years ago, less than 1 urban family in 100 had air-conditioning.


By 2007, 95 air conditioners were sold for every 100 households."