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The United States has questioned Japan about the possibility it might participate in China’s initiative to set up a regional development bank, sources familiar with bilateral relations said Friday.

In the wake of a Financial Times report at the end of March that said Japan “is likely to join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank within a few months,” in a move it said “would see Tokyo break ranks with Washington,” the U.S. has grown suspicious about Japan and asked whether the report is true, the sources said.

The development shows that Washington’s concern is growing since major allies including Britain, Australia and South Korea filed applications to become “founding members” of the AIIB before China’s March 31 deadline for countries and territories.

In response to the U.S. inquiry, Tokyo explained that the report was “inaccurate” and said it “does not have a specific time frame” in mind, as suggested by the report, the sources said, adding that Washington eventually accepted the explanation.

A government source said the report, based on a Financial Times interview with Japanese Ambassador to China Masato Kitera, was “a deliberate attempt to drive a wedge into the firm relations between Japan and the United States.”

On March 31, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga dismissed the report as “completely inaccurate.”

Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida said, “It is not true that Ambassador Kitera made a forecast about Japan’s AIIB participation.”

Underscoring Japan’s cautious position on the new bank, which China has pledged to launch by the end of the year, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said on March 31 that “There is no need to participate hastily.”

“The United States now knows that Japan is trustworthy,” Abe told a meeting of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, especially when Britain and other European members of the Group of Seven industrialized nations expressed their intention to join the AIIB.

While more than 50 countries and territories have signed up to join the institution, Japan — together with the United States — has decided to stay out of it, citing concern over the opaqueness of AIIB governance standards and its screening process for loans.

Because some see the AIIB as a challenge to the World Bank and Asian Development Bank, which are traditionally led by the United States and Japan, respectively, how the two allies will deal with the new multilateral bank is expected to be on the agenda for Abe’s visit to the United States on April 26.

While publicly expressing caution, an internal government document obtained by Kyodo News showed that Japan has not yet ruled out the possibility of joining the AIIB, and would contribute up to $1.5 billion in the event that it does.

The document also said Japan — in close coordination with the United States — will continue to urge China to ensure fair governance and transparent management of the institution “from outside.”

“The government is conducting various studies, but our country maintains a cautious stance about participation in the AIIB,” Suga, the top government spokesman, told reporters in Tokyo on Thursday.

“In coordination with relevant countries, (Japan) has been urging China that the AIIB meet standards suitable for so-called international financial institutions, which we believe is naturally necessary,” he said.

U.S. questions Japan about stance on China-led bank | The Japan Times
 
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What a tight leash Japan is kept on :)
Minding others business is their business !


Japan shouldn't have to explain anything to anyone. Japan and the US may have defense agreements, but they don't have to ask about our economic interests. Germany , UK, France, Australia joined the AIIB. I don't understand this paranoia on Washington's part in regards to Japanese-Chinese warming of relations.
 
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Japan shouldn't have to explain anything to anyone. Japan and the US may have defense agreements, but they don't have to ask about our economic interests. Germany , UK, France, Australia joined the AIIB. I don't understand this paranoia on Washington's part in regards to Japanese-Chinese warming of relations.

Lol Nihon, you're just tooo smart, you like to brag about Japan-US military alliance "indirectly" against China and you don't want US to middling Japan-China economic tie :lol:,do you think Americans will accept this arrangement? either you're with them or against them.:p:
 
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Lol Nihon, you're just tooo smart, you like to brag about Japan-US military alliance "indirectly" against China and you don't want US to middle Japan-China economic tie :lol:,do you think Americans will accept this arrangement? either you're with them or against them.:p:





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Japan shouldn't have to explain anything to anyone. Japan and the US may have defense agreements, but they don't have to ask about our economic interests. Germany , UK, France, Australia joined the AIIB. I don't understand this paranoia on Washington's part in regards to Japanese-Chinese warming of relations.

Well, while i might agree with you to some extent, but you also have to understand U.S concerns/worries. Afterall, th U.S is still the major/dominant power in Asia, so they are trying to keep the current power balance. Japan joining is different from any European country joining i believe. Since in Europe there is no real threat whatsoever to the U.S or to we europeans for that matter(apart fom a declining Russian trying to keep its grip on small/poor eastern european/balkan states). In Asia its a different matter, and its much more complicated with a rising China and other regional players having disputes among themselves etc. So the U.S main/most important ally in Asia i.e Japan joining will be a much more serious issue for the U.S than any european country joining(even U.S most closest ally Britain).

Anyway as i said before on here several times, Japan will be the last country to join(if ever), since Japan stands the most to lose in this(even more than the U.S), since the ADB(dominated by Japan) is the one who stands the most to lose from the AIIB, since they are both Asian based/focused. So it doesn't suit Japan's interests to join. U.S concerns/pressure are secondary(though important to Japan). However, everything isn't a bad for Japan, afterall it has showed the U.S how reliable an ally Japan is(just like Abe said).:cheers:
 
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Well, while i might agree with you to some extent, but you also have to understand U.S concerns/worries. Afterall, th U.S is still the major/dominant power in Asia, so they are trying to keep the current power balance. Japan joining is different from Europe joining i believe. Since in Europe there is no real threat whatsoever to the U.S or to we europeans for that matter(apart fom a declining Russian grip on sma/poor eastern european/bakan countries), in Asia its a different matter, and its much more complicated with a rising China and other egional players having disputes among themselves etc. So U.S main ally in Asia Japan joining wil be much more serious for the U.S than any european country joining(even U.S most closest ally Britain).

Anyway as i said before on here several times, Japan will be the last country to join(if ever), since Japan will stands the most to lose in this(even more than the U.S) since the ADB(dominated by Japan) is the one who stands the most to lose from the AIIB, since they are both Asian based/focused. So it doesnt suit Japans interests to join, U.S concerns/pressure are secondary(though important to Japan). However Japan hasnt lost everything, afterall, it has showed the U.S how reliable an ally Japan is(just like Abe said).:cheers:


I understand what you're trying to say Mike , its just that I think its just asinine how the US is concerned about Japan's 'considering' of joining the AIIB, its not like we've joined already, the Japanese Government is still considering joining. Anyways, the AIIB's current capacity is around $50 Billion, with the potential of growing. If what I remember is true, I think Japan is considering pledging $1.5 Billion to the AIIB, and it makes sense since China is also a member of the ADB, which is Japanese dominated. In fact China has been a member of the ADB since 1986. Japan should join the AIIB to show continuity and to cooperate in further development of industrializing states.

Japan and the US cooperate on so many issues, so the issue of being a 'loyal' ally shouldn't be brought to the fore here. This is a development bank, not a military alliance. America and the Obama Administration needs to keep that in mind. I mean, even Britain joined the AIIB. Britain; the Mother of America and the English Speaking World. lol.

Obama's Foreign Policy is an utter failure and a perfidious example of poor global insight, as well as failure to act when necessary. The success of China in this regard is due to the questionability of American resolve, thanks in part to a poor and ineffective Administration.

Obama is practically grabbing onto anything that is left to leave some kind of legacy to his Administration. America should be keen to understand that the more she pushes Japan, the more irritated Japan will be. The world's 3rd largest economy and a military power in its own right doesn't necessarily need American protection. Nor should we feel obliged to cater to every single American request.
 
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I understand what you're trying to say Mike , its just that I think its just asinine how the US is concerned about Japan's 'considering' of joining the AIIB, its not like we've joined already, the Japanese Government is still considering joining. Anyways, the AIIB's current capacity is around $50 Billion, with the potential of growing. If what I remember is true, I think Japan is considering pledging $1.5 Billion to the AIIB, and it makes sense since China is also a member of the ADB, which is Japanese dominated. In fact China has been a member of the ADB since 1986. Japan should join the AIIB to show continuity and to cooperate in further development of industrializing states.

Japan and the US cooperate on so many issues, so the issue of being a 'loyal' ally shouldn't be brought to the fore here. This is a development bank, not a military alliance. America and the Obama Administration needs to keep that in mind. I mean, even Britain joined the AIIB. Britain; the Mother of America and the English Speaking World. lol.

Come on. :lol:


Bold part was funny as hell.:rofl: LMAO:lol:

Well we lok after our interests first and foremosts, its always been that way for us.:enjoy:

Coming back to topic. I dont think you understand the situation quite well Nihonja san. China joined in 1986 when it was still a midget compared to Japan. It had little to no weight economically and was so backward compared to Japan that it had no other choice than to join , since it was just openning up to the outside world and was in need of international support in infrastructure/trade etc. However, now the situation is different, Japan is a developed country and a major power in Asia as well, it controls the ADB(the main infrastructure financer in Asia) and has a choice of not joining the AIIB(since it doesn't help Japan in anything as Japan has long been a developed country) and Japan is also based in Asia, hence it sees this more as a threat than others. Will be interesting to see what happens by the end of this year. The great game is just starting and its indeed getting VERY INTERESTING. :victory::enjoy:
 
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Bold part was funny as hell.:rofl: LMAO:lol:

Well we lok after our interests first and foremosts, its always been that way for us.:enjoy:

Coming back to topic. I dont you understand the situation quite well Nihonja san. China joined in 1986 when it was stil a midget compared to Japan. It had little to no wieght economically and was so backward compared to Japan that it had no other choice than to join , since it was just openning up to the outside world and was in need of international support in infrastructure/trade etc. However, now the situation is different, Japan is a developed country and a major power in Asia as well, it controls the ADB(the main infrastructure financer in Asia) and has a choice of not joining the AIIB(since it doesnt help Japan in anything as Japan has long been a developed country) and Jpan is also Asian based so it sees this more as a threat than others. Will be interesting to see what happens by the end of this year. The great game is getting VERY INTERESTING. :victory::enjoy:

With AIIB, China will have less and less interested on ADB in the future, we rather concentrate to put effort on this new bank that we have created than spend time on ADB whcih is control by Japan and US that we have the least to say. If AIIB proven to be sucess...next we will create a World infrastructure investment bank :enjoy:
 
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Bold part was funny as hell.:rofl: LMAO:lol:

Well we lok after our interests first and foremosts, its always been that way for us.:enjoy:

Coming back to topic. I dont you understand the situation quite well Nihonja san. China joined in 1986 when it was stil a midget compared to Japan. It had little to no wieght economically and was so backward compared to Japan that it had no other choice than to join , since it was just openning up to the outside world and was in need of international support in infrastructure/trade etc. However, now the situation is different, Japan is a developed country and a major power in Asia as well, it controls the ADB(the main infrastructure financer in Asia) and has a choice of not joining the AIIB(since it doesnt help Japan in anything as Japan has long been a developed country) and Jpan is also Asian based so it sees this more as a threat than others. Will be interesting to see what happens by the end of this year. The great game is getting VERY INTERESTING. :victory::enjoy:


I agree with you that Japan doesn't necessarily need 'external' funding as we have plenty of capital (a pension fund of $1.3 Trillion and our foreign reserves, also around the same amount). Japan's joining of the AIIB is for continuity's sake , and a sign or a show of good will to China of Japan's wish to work with China.

There are political undertones in this, of course, and Japan's joining of the AIIB would represent a clear and definite paradigm shift in Japanese visage towards ASIA-PACIFIC in context to partner powers. By joining the AIIB, Japan would signal to China , the rest of the world, and most importantly the United States that Japan does not see China as a threat anymore, rather as an invaluable , indispensable power partner and one that it posits greater cooperative plans with.

Another political undertone to would be the fact that Japan is signaling to our partners that it is adopting a more independent policy by adopting such a pragmatic approach. The United States , clearly, has shown its declining in maintaining its position since it has been messaging Japan to take up a more active role in military duties. One example has been America's request to Japan, indirectly of course, to actively patrol the South China Seas. Japan has been hesitant to do direct patrols in the SCS, aside from joint naval exercises with the Philippines and other partners, as Japan doesn't want to complicate its warming relations with China. This all comes into context with Japan's recent decision to take a more active role in military defense and global activities; this is political lingo for Japan not needing American defense guidance, and that Japan will be utilizing its own forces to help protect shipping, as well as deploying forces in war zones when needed. At the same time the issue of Okinawa looms.

The United States knows that the Governor of Okinawa Prefecture will not relent and is supported by popular will, actually he was elected into office based on his promise to terminate US Military Base Agreement in Okinawa. If this is not resolved soon, then Futenma will be closed as well as the termination of the Henoko Base Construction. What does this mean? America has to leave Japan.

So you see , Mike, one has to be comprehensive in analysis. America's 'insistence' in asking and inquiring about Japan's decision to join AIIB is contextually related to the current power situation in Japan and Japan's growing insistence to "boot" the US Military.

Their fears and concerns are understandable, from the American view. The issue now is that it no longer serves Japanese interests to maintain an antagonistic stance with China since our relations are improving from economic indices, to intergovernmental processes.




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With AIIB, China will have less and less interested on ADB in the future, we rather concentrate to put effort on this new bank that we have created than spend time on ADB whcih is control by Japan and US that we have the least to say. If AIIB proven to be sucess...next we will create a World infrastructure investment bank :enjoy:

My friend, do you know how much the ADB has? Over $250 Billion. Now, the issue is not about who overpowers who, as believe me you there is no shortage of loan requests and developmental assistance applications around the world. The same as how the World Bank, ADB, and IMF are powerful international lenders. In fact, the AIIB will add a necessary supply of much needed funding for nations who are still developing.

The ADB and the AIIB are not competitors, they are synergistic with each other and will drive qualitative editions on current and future policies.
 
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My friend, do you know how much the ADB has? Over $250 Billion. Now, the issue is not about who overpowers who, as believe me you there is no shortage of loan requests and developmental assistance applications around the world. The same as how the World Bank, ADB, and IMF are powerful international lenders. In fact, the AIIB will add a necessary supply of much needed funding for nations who are still developing.

The ADB and the AIIB are not competitors, they are synergistic with each other and will drive qualitative editions on current and future policies.

Really if you beleive that there is no issue about who is overpower who...then mind to explain how Japaneses have alway been the bosses of ADB and same for Word bank and IMF which alway Americans or Europeans respectively...sure AIIB will not be the competitor of ADB but at least China will feel more comfortable to work on the environment where the rule is equal to all.
 
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Really if you beleive that there is no issue about who is overpower who...then mind to explain how Japaneses have alway been the bosses of ADB and same for Word bank and IMF which alway Americans or Europeans respectively...sure AIIB will not be the competitor of ADB but at least China will feel more comfortable to work on the environment where the rule is equal to all.

loool theres aways a boss in everything.:enjoy::big_boss:
 
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