Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[epinephrine]

Great job.

Though crash isin't the topic here, 26th Squadron crew confirmed about the crash to be a bird-hit.

It happened a few minutes after take-off. A bird got sucked in the intakes. The Thunder was in the area of civilian presence, so Squadron Leader Mohammed Hussain Shaheed tried his luck to divert the jet towards a nearby hill. He then informed the control tower and ejected. Due to low height and angel of ejection, the parachutes failed to open and he was found 3KM away from the crashed jet.

This was new Thunder made at Kamra for third Squadron.

Anyways, around only 30 jets (18 of them newly induced 3 months ago) and 10,000 sorties is a huge job!

26 sqn is in peshawar n the thunder that crashed was from kamra manufactured for the third sqn so the crew r not authentic sources for this accident.they would not be a part of the inquiry committee established to find out the cause of the accident.
jft has 0-0 ejection seat which means pilot should be able to eject safely at 0 altitide n 0 speed.y our pilot is not alive then?
jft took of from kamra n reached attock n still it was flying at such a low altitude that its engine sucked a bird.it is a fighter jet designed to gain altitude in seconds n not minutes.
i cant understand any of this

 

[Rafi]

26 sqn is in peshawar n the thunder that crashed was from kamra manufactured for the third sqn so the crew r not authentic sources for this accident.they would not be a part of the inquiry committee established to find out the cause of the accident.
jft has 0-0 ejection seat which means pilot should be able to eject safely at 0 altitide n 0 speed.y our pilot is not alive then?
jft took of from kamra n reached attock n still it was flying at such a low altitude that its engine sucked a bird.it is a fighter jet designed to gain altitude in seconds n not minutes.
i cant understand any of this

The problem was the plane was inverted ie up side down, that is why the ejection seat could not stop terminal velocity, and it was a bird strike.

 

[Najam Khan]

DUBAI: JF-17 crashes in Pakistan's Kamra

By: Greg Waldron Dubai

A Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 fighter aircraft operated by the Pakistan air force has crashed shortly after taking from Kamra air base, killing the pilot, an industry source said.

The PAF confirmed that the aircraft was flying at low level and crashed shortly after takeoff on 14 November. The lost aircraft was due for induction into the PAF's third operational JF-17 squadron. This is the first known crash of the aircraft.

The incident came as China and Pakistan mounted a major sales push for the JF-17 at the Dubai air show. This is the JF-17's first major international air show since Farnborough in 2010. The aircraft missed Paris this year owing to political instability in Pakistan.

this wili 'delay' the induction of the 3rd JF-17 squadron till they fix the 'fault'

Who confirmed this? Its just a speculation. The aircraft allotment to squadrons is non random for E.g 26 Sqn has mix of first batch SBP examples, late 2009 and 2010 aircraft as well.

 

[epinephrine]

The problem was the plane was inverted ie up side down, that is why the ejection seat could not stop terminal velocity, and it was a bird strike.

thanx but any authentic sources??i dont think that the inquiry team would have completed their inquiry in just 2 days of the accident.all the thunders must be grounded till the team completes its investigation.its a 20 million dollar plane n we should not just put blame on a "bird" out rightly.it is the easiest way to escape by blaming a bird

 

[epinephrine]

the easiest answer for any air crash is "bird hit" n we have got this answer again this time.all jfts must be grounded till the time the actual reason of the crash is found out.the jet took of from kamra n reached mountainous terrain of attock n still it was such a low altitude that it sucked a bird??

 

[Najam Khan]

So tail number was it?
It must be remembered that the 08 tails do NOT have the MB-16 yet.

It was PK16LE MB. TY-6 seats of those eight SBPs were changed to MB in early 2010. Seat had done its part, its the low-altitude and possibly the ground surface where he hit that changed the fate of pilot. His position at the time of collision is also important...during pre-flight checks pilots sometime forgot to strap their helmet properly leading to a confirm head injury...


BTW Is birdhit as official release? I have just heard this on forums...i believe report isnt made yet.

 

[Rafi]

thanx but any authentic sources??i dont think that the inquiry team would have completed their inquiry in just 2 days of the accident.all the thunders must be grounded till the team completes its investigation.its a 20 million dollar plane n we should not just put blame on a "bird" out rightly.it is the easiest way to escape by blaming a bird

Contacts within Armed Forces, also that is the reason why the JFT were not grounded and the display team carried on as usual, bird strikes are an unfortunate part of aviation.

 

[Rafi]

the easiest answer for any air crash is "bird hit" n we have got this answer again this time.all jfts must be grounded till the time the actual reason of the crash is found out.the jet took of from kamra n reached mountainous terrain of attock n still it was such a low altitude that it sucked a bird??

It happens fella.

 

[khail007]

the easiest answer for any air crash is "bird hit" n we have got this answer again this time.all jfts must be grounded till the time the actual reason of the crash is found out.the jet took of from kamra n reached mountainous terrain of attock n still it was such a low altitude that it sucked a bird??

Birds could be find flying from 10,000 feet to 29,000 feet. Especially large birds like vultures found flying at 10,000 feet. Geese found and spotted by airline pilots flying at 29,000 feet. It is amazing, I have seen the damage of birds strike on a Boeing 777-300ER it ruptured the radome, damaged the radar, skin of the aircraft also found dented and ruptured.

One of PAF base (Masroor) in karachi is also named after a pilot, who lost his life while flying a B-57 and encounter a bird hit.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Who confirmed this? Its just a speculation. The aircraft allotment to squadrons is non random for E.g 26 Sqn has mix of first batch SBP examples, late 2009 and 2010 aircraft as well.

08-107 was in 26 Sqd. right !

 

[razgriz19]

judging by the crash site, the aircraft was upside down and thats probably the reason why pilot's parachute didn't deploy properly... he probably ejected when the aircraft was inverted and the rocket boosters slammed him on the ground..

 

[Edevelop]

judging by the crash site, the aircraft was upside down and thats probably the reason why pilot's parachute didn't deploy properly... he probably ejected when the aircraft was inverted and the rocket boosters slammed him on the ground..

Thats great thinking and observation. Lets hope it was a bird strike that caused the crash and not a tech problem or else the project in the end would be criticized by some people.

 

[Jango]

There were reports of an engine fire, so most probably, the bird entered the engine.

As Safriz said, the aircraft was probably upside down, hence the parachute could not properly deploy.

 

[rockstarIN]

There were reports of an engine fire, so most probably, the bird entered the engine.

As Safriz said, the aircraft was probably upside down, hence the parachute could not properly deploy.

JFT inlets are not open as other jets, less chance for bird hitting the engines

 

[mjnaushad]

JFT inlets are not open as other jets, less chance for bird hitting the engines

They are not open but doesn't mean there is no way in at all.....DSI have a little bump by which the RCS is reduced .... Its not that they have put some hard metal in front of it to stop anything to come in...