Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[The Eagle]

Thunders have excellent flight safety record given the thousands of hours flying. Secondly, PAF will surely look into every aspect and learn from the incident. We might not read everything in public domain. Initially, it is a bird hit. Given the number of hours flown and air frames age; incidents can happen and happens in real world where professional force learn from the incidents and raise the bar of quality. There are machines that will be replaced by the time and crash is not something that one can guarantee as will never happen. However, the mentality is to take care of every aspect and maintain the fleet with high quality for which, PAF has own place among other air forces. Bird hit is an unfortunate thing that one can only pray in such case. Above all, no loss of life or any damage on the ground. Alhamdulillah.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Looks like jf-17 tail choppers with no number assigned.probably mechanical failure or bird strike.

 

[PanzerKiel]

Probably you are right. This is near minhas air base and only thunders are operating from minhas air base. So uptill now three crashes of thunder out of which atleast 2 are from engine failure. One was over the Arabian sea and this was on the road. Good thing is pilots are safe opposed to accidents of mirages and f7s. Apparently thunder has a much better ejection system.

The Arabian Sea Thunder was a case of CFIT.

 

[truthfollower]

why jets cant land after bird engine hit? Not enough momentum to land safely?

 

[truthfollower]

The Arabian Sea Thunder was a case of CFIT.

CFIT?

 

[arjunk]

Thunders can be replaced, the pilot cannot neither can a foreign jet like the F-16. Hopefully a block 1 only.

 

[PanzerKiel]

CFIT?

Controlled Flight Into Terrain

an accident in which an airworthy aircraft, under pilot control, is unintentionally flown into the ground, a mountain, a body of water or an obstacle

 

[The Accountant]

The Arabian Sea Thunder was a case of CFIT.

Seems strange. Given your experience how CFIT could occur at sea. As per my understanding it happens during landing in extreme weather.

If I am right first crash was also associated with block 1 wing structural limit. Wing got broken when going for extreme maneuver. It got fixed in block 2 and subsequent MLU.

 

[PanzerKiel]

Seems strange. Given your experience how CFIT could occur at sea. As per my understanding it happens during landing in extreme weather.

If I am right first crash was also associated with block 1 wing structural limit. Wing got broken when going for extreme maneuver. It got fixed in block 2 and subsequent MLU.

... You can imagine night time, with the border line between sea and sky not clear at horizon.

Same is the case in bad weather as well....

Point is, the pilot becomes unsure of his aircraft position relative to ground.....

Pilots are therefore trained to trust their instruments at all costs in such conditions. But then, you pay the price if you don't.

I still remember, that JF17 over Arabian Sea, was flying normally, but once it crashed, the altitude loss rate was horrendous enough..... thousands of feet in a few seconds, almost went nose down....

No may day call, nothing.

 

[PanzerKiel]

... You can imagine night time, with the border line between sea and sky not clear at horizon.

Same is the case in bad weather as well....

Point is, the pilot becomes unsure of his aircraft position relative to ground.....

Pilots are therefore trained to trust their instruments at all costs in such conditions. But then, you pay the price if you don't.

I still remember, that JF17 over Arabian Sea, was flying normally, but once it crashed, the altitude loss rate was horrendous enough..... thousands of feet in a few seconds, almost went nose down....

No may day call, nothing.

... And you can also imagine....

Clear night sky, full of stars with big moon..... That's in the sky, but then you see the same image in the sea, below the horizon as well....

So what you see is, stars all around you, two moons..... No horizon visible to naked eye..... That's where you've got to trust your instruments.

 

[fatman17]

Air crashes happen. Part and parcel of the business. Cannot get emotional about it and ignore the comments from the east.

 

[The Accountant]

... And you can also imagine....

Clear night sky, full of stars with big moon..... That's in the sky, but then you see the same image in the sea, below the horizon as well....

So what you see is, stars all around you, two moons..... No horizon visible to naked eye..... That's where you've got to trust your instruments.

So pilot didn't survived or did he ?

 

[PanzerKiel]

So pilot didn't survived or did he ?

Couldn't....

It happened in High Mark 2016....

Overall


Casualties in "High" Mark 2016 -

1 F-7PG aircraft - Fl. Lt. Omer Shahzad dead
1 JF17 aircraft - Sqn Ldr Rizwan dead
1 GIDS Shahpar UAV crash

 

[Windjammer]

The aircraft that crashed appeared in a video recently.

 

[Arsalan 345]

... And you can also imagine....

Clear night sky, full of stars with big moon..... That's in the sky, but then you see the same image in the sea, below the horizon as well....

So what you see is, stars all around you, two moons..... No horizon visible to naked eye..... That's where you've got to trust your instruments.

Lots of passenger planes also destroyed because of spatial disorientation. We can replace machines but not the pilots. Thank God pilot is safe.