No thank you, Mr Javad Zarif, Iran’s proposal is unacceptable

[hasnainfirst]

You are an Israeli then.

Oh please ... i am a Pakistani and a patriotic one too

Iranians have always had a positive view over Pakistan for example it's rare even I have never seen that we would celebrate another country national day but we do it about Pakistan:
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If it wasn't for insecurity in our borders 2 countries had nothing else as source and bases of concern ...

@Alternative

 

[LeGenD]

Perhaps you should open a book and read or just don't talk about the history of Iran-Arab ties.

You obviously are ignorant on this matter, on a scale that you don't even know very same countries gave Saddam Hussein 70 billion dollars in cash in his war against Iran in 80s.

I won't even talk about their proxy terrorists attacking Iran, or their proxies in Iraq or Syria attacking Iranian interests.

Only a brainwashed sectarian person won't see both sides of a story like this.

The mother of all accounts in this link: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/01/24/what-irans-revolution-meant-for-iraq/amp/

 

[Lincoln]

Oh please ... i am a Pakistani and a patriotic one too


@Alternative

I don't believe that. You don't know who is who on this forum after all.

 

[hasnainfirst]

I don't believe that. You don't know who is who on this forum after all.

Hahaha , fine ...

 

[Goenitz]

We shouldn't side anyone in onset of war but Iran should stop threatening US etc for example saying we will hit US ships or bases in SA or Oil refinery. If Vietnam war happened due to Gulf of Tonkin it is easy to stage an attack on mentioned facility. After huge number of casualties, even Russia can't say no to US aggression on Iran. We dont want any instability in region. It is win for isreal. SA is weak so other gulf states so willing or unwillingly, they have to be in US camps. Iran should take Turkey in confidence too but points is Iran has a bone to pick with everyone of its neighbour. BTW, if siding isreal is a crime, siding India is 'sawab' /kher ?!!!
Doesn't Iran know muslim's misery in India. I bet in time needed, Pak may help Iran but India will never. @Alternatiiv @hasnainfirst @raptor22

 

[Lincoln]

Hahaha , fine ...

Aapnai hi yeh idea introduce kiya tha.

 

[raptor22]

We shouldn't side anyone in onset of war but Iran should stop threatening US etc for example saying we will hit US ships or bases in SA or Oil refinery. If Vietnam war happened due to Gulf of Tonkin it is easy to stage an attack on mentioned facility. After huge number of casualties, even Russia can't say no to US aggression on Iran. We dont want any instability in region. It is win for isreal. SA is weak so other gulf states so willing or unwillingly, they have to be in US camps. Iran should take Turkey in confidence too but points is Iran has a bone to pick with everyone of its neighbour. BTW, if siding isreal is a crime, siding India is 'sawab' /kher ?!!!
Doesn't Iran know muslim's misery in India. I bet in time needed, Pak may help Iran but India will never. @Alternatiiv @hasnainfirst @raptor22

We are not threatening the american ... it is them that have come from 6~7 thousands miles away occupied countries, seeking regime change established military bases all across the region and support dictators and meanwhile shed crocodile tears about democracy in Iran , violating int law and the UNSCRs is another one ...
In nutshell we are defending ourselves against barbaric & aggressive policy of american, we pay for our independent policy.

 

[hasnainfirst]

We shouldn't side anyone in onset of war but Iran should stop threatening US etc for example saying we will hit US ships or bases in SA or Oil refinery. If Vietnam war happened due to Gulf of Tonkin it is easy to stage an attack on mentioned facility. After huge number of casualties, even Russia can't say no to US aggression on Iran. We dont want any instability in region. It is win for isreal. SA is weak so other gulf states so willing or unwillingly, they have to be in US camps. Iran should take Turkey in confidence too but points is Iran has a bone to pick with everyone of its neighbour. BTW, if siding isreal is a crime, siding India is 'sawab' /kher ?!!!
Doesn't Iran know muslim's misery in India. I bet in time needed, Pak may help Iran but India will never. @Alternatiiv @hasnainfirst @raptor22

Thats why i am saying that Arabs should accept this pact , we don't want instability and war ...

 

[mourning sage]

Reading the comments on this thread made me realize how deep our insecurities are and still in this age and time, his one dimensional our thought process is. Sunni vs. Shia. Grow up. While the world moves on, we fight like kids.

 

[raptor22]

The mother of all accounts in this link: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/01/24/what-irans-revolution-meant-for-iraq/amp/

stupid and one sided ...and Saddam helping Khumaini is another joke while you could find it completely opposite knowing the fact that Khomaint exile to Iraq and later to Paris was directly asked by Iran SAVAK and they had their own intelligence umbrella on Iraq ... the text doesn't mention Bath party long oppression against Shia :

"...The Ba'thists initiated a crackdown on Shi'a political activism, driven in part by the secular nature of the Ba'thist ideology and in part by their view of a politicized Shi'a as a threat to the stability of the regime. During the 1970s, the Shi'a journal Risalat al-Islam was shut down, a number of religious educational institutions were closed, and a law was enacted that obligated Iraqi students of the hawza to undertake national military service. The Ba'thists then began specifically targeting al-Da'wa members, arresting and imprisoning them from 1972 onwards. In 1973, the alleged head of al-Da'wa's Baghdad branch was killed in prison, and one year later, 75 al-Da'wa members were arrested and sentenced to death by the Ba'thist revolutionary court.(14) In 1975, the government canceled the annual procession from Najaf to Karbala (known as marad al-ras)..."
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The point is Kumainy was most political clergy in the past century how Saddam supporting him was in the line of aforementioned policy of Ba'thists?????

Saddam main reason to attack Iran was none of these nonsense:

 

[SIPRA]

We are not threatening the american ... it is them that have come from 6~7 thousands miles away occupied countries, seeking regime change established military bases all across the region and support dictators and meanwhile shed crocodile tears about democracy in Iran , violating int law and the UNSCRs is another one ...
In nutshell we are defending ourselves against barbaric & aggressive policy of american, we pay for our independent policy.

I personally have a strong sympathy with Iran and its people, owing to a variety of historical reasons. But I believe, that Iran, like some other Muslim countries including KSA, have overstretched themselves, in the geopolitics, beyond their inherent strength. This was, what was the planning of nexus of US, West and Israel, to enhance the cleavage and strife between different relatively strong Muslim countries, in order, ultimately to waste, whatever little strength, they have, and to subdue and subordinate them, as a consequence. Unfortunately, they are succeeding in their plans and, one by one, Muslim countries are being lured and trapped into this disastrous net.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Giving Chahbahar to India (terrorists) was the single worst geopolitical mistake made by Iran.

Fully supportive and sympathetic Pakistan has now been forced to become neutral.

We are the country which many times threatened other countries to leave Iran alone, even with threats of Nuclear missiles.

We also diplomatically, politically sided with Iran during the Iran-Iraq war.

Iran has lost a strong friend to its East, due to its own failed foreign policy.

 

[raptor22]

I personally have a strong sympathy with Iran and its people, owing to a variety of historical reasons. But I believe, that Iran, like some other Muslim countries including KSA, have overstretched themselves, in the geopolitics, beyond their inherent strength. This was, what was the planning of nexus of US, West and Israel, to enhance the cleavage and strife between different relatively strong Muslim countries, in order, ultimately to waste, whatever little strength, they have, and to subdue and subordinate them, as a consequence. Unfortunately, they are succeeding in their plans and, one by one, Muslim countries are being lured into this disastrous net.

We indeed hope & wish for a day that all Muslim countries would enjoy an independent policy as Iran does & stop acting like second rated pawn in american foreign policy apparatus ... in that particular day we could finally find answers for our problems ... countries have choice & some have chosen to serve others' interests ....

 

[thunderr]

Iran sorry we don't support you anymore ! RIP

 

[RoadRunner401]

Hahahaha , yours respectfully , may i say who are you to ask if i love Iran more than Pakistan ...

Let me help you with understanding their patriotism, If you love HOUSE OF SAUD at all cost then you are a patriotic Pakistani!

What option do they have when every single Pakistani here is in favor of annihilating Iran ...

Wrong few extremists don't speak on behalf of Pakistan!