No thank you, Mr Javad Zarif, Iran’s proposal is unacceptable

[R Wing]

Go see Iranian thread. They are in India's camp. They hate Pakistan. Their IRGC openly threatens Pakistan.

Camps shift. It doesn't have to be either/or. Isn't India also in the Israeli camp? Haven't we been in the China and US camps? It is not a zero sum game.

It is our job to reset relations wherever we feel our interests, as a nation and a region, can be aligned. Our land was used by a CIA/Mossad-backed terror network (based in Afghanistan and operating via Balochistan) to kill people in Iran. We have been in the Saudi camp for decades; our ex-COAS is orchestrating war strategy for MBS. What do you expect from Iran?

Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and China together can provide a good amount of stability in Eurasia and put a stop to insane NATO interventions (Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan) that have cost the region hundreds of thousands in civilian deaths and a huge amount of insecurity.

 

[Aasimkhan]

What option do they have when every single Pakistani here is in favour of annihilating Iran ...

Ask yourself whether Pakistan wants to annihilate Iran or Iran wants to annihilate Pakistan? What excuse Iran has for siding with enemies of Pakistan?

 

[Max]

What option do they have when every single Pakistani here is in favour of annihilating Iran ...

They were not interested in Iran, this forum was so much pro Iran that almost all arab members left this forum bcoz of Pakistani bias. but then people started to get experienced and things are changing thanks to barking clown of Iran and IRGC who sadly dont only bark but assist terrorists as FM Qureshi said..

 

[hasnainfirst]

Ask yourself whether Pakistan wants to annihilate Iran or Iran wants to annihilate Pakistan? What excuse Iran has for siding with enemies of Pakistan?

Ok , fine ... but as a Pakistani i am sure you and i consider israel as our biggest enemy even bigger than india but Saudis are now siding with them slowly and they'll eventually end up establishing good ties with them , so my question is that Will you end your relations with KSA ? And start shouting to annihilate them ...

 

[Lincoln]

What option do they have when every single Pakistani here is in favour of annihilating Iran ...

What option do we have when IRGC threatens Pakistan and their people call us all kinds of names.

Ok , fine ... but as a Pakistani i am sure you and i consider israel as our biggest enemy even bigger than india but Saudis are now siding with them slowly and they'll eventually end up establishing good ties with them , so my question is that Will you end your relations with KSA ? And start shouting to annihilate them ...

Iran sides with India. India is a greater threat than Israel. Our wars have been witth India, not Israel.

Ok , fine ... but as a Pakistani i am sure you and i consider israel as our biggest enemy even bigger than india but Saudis are now siding with them slowly and they'll eventually end up establishing good ties with them , so my question is that Will you end your relations with KSA ? And start shouting to annihilate them ...

I advise you to go see Iranian threads. They are glorifying terrorists who killed Pakistani soldiers.

 

[hasnainfirst]

Iran sides with India. India is a greater threat than Israel. Our wars have been witth India, not Israel.

Who arms india and who tried to Destroy our nuclear program in collaboration with india ?

 

[Lincoln]

Who arms india and who tried to Destroy our nuclear program in collaboration with india ?

They don't arm them for free. That's a fact.

 

[hasnainfirst]

I advise you to go see Iranian threads. They are glorifying terrorists who killed Pakistani soldiers.

This is a forum , you don't know if a person is Iranian or indian , anybody can hide his identity , when propaganda is done against Pakistan via pushtun accounts , we say that they are being operated from india so i guess the same can be said here ...

 

[ziaulislam]

So now that Iran wants a non-aggression pact , the Arabs are acting moody , its true that Iran does support proxies but Arabs should accept this ... btw who wrote this article , a kid because its full of sarcasm and trolling

Bharian..a stable healthy monarch over slightly majority shia population
Syrian a small minority witg history of brutal killing in 1980s and beyond over large majority sunni population
Lebanaon a minority shia population controlling a majority sunni population
Iraq shia majority in south sunni in the north
Yemen a minority shia population over running a majority sunni legitimate government


So whats iran doing..Pakistani might be afraid of arabs but dont be surprised if one day openly you see a shia rebellion its already happening in some parts you just cant see it..

 

[raptor22]

I explained it in other thread a while ago that Iran proposal for talks ain't new and has no connection with curremt situation ... actually we've had a security pact signed btw Iran and Saudis back in 2005 and just after that Saudis asked American to attack Iran ... moreover it's been for years Iran calling out for regional talks . idiots wouldn't understand:

2016:
Overcoming Regional Challenges in the Middle East: An Iranian Perspective
Chatham House, London

Q: Do you see a time where Saudi Arabia and Iran will collaborate? When will that be?
Mohammad Javad Zarif:
Tomorrow, if they're ready. We didn't break diplomatic relations. I'm saying it, and I'm saying it with every possible intention. We are ready to engage with all our neighbours in the Persian Gulf for security in the region, starting tomorrow. If they're ready

2017:
Iranian foreign minister urges regional cooperation after returning from Oman, Qatar

“We have repeatedly suggested a system of dialogue in the Persian Gulf, but unfortunately this has not been acknowledged by some countries, who see their future through tension, pressure and imposing on neighbors,” Zarif said, according to state media.

2018:
Zarif Says Neither Saudis Nor Iran Can Dominate Middle East; Talks Needed
Zarif said there is "a dire need for change" and "Iran is ready for it because we are big enough, old enough, mature enough to appreciate this reality."
"None of us can become the new hegemon" in the region, he said. "The era of hegemonic influence is long gone," he said. "Neither Iran nor Saudi Arabia can be the hegemons of the region. That's a fact."
Zarif called for a new "regional dialogue forum" that would include five Gulf Cooperation Council countries along with Iran, Iraq, and Yemen. He said such a dialogue has the potential to transform the Middle East.


Furthermore Iran responded to Kuwait's plan of dialogue positively in way Iran president had a trip to Kuwait to show Iran readiness for solving problems & misunderstandings .. despite the fact that dialogue plan was initiated by all members of PGCC including Saudis, they refused of taking any further step & Rohuni trip became pointless and no talk took place..

"...Sources told Kuwaiti daily Al Seyassah that Rouhani’s visit is linked to the message from the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), comprising Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, to Iran to start a strategic dialogue.

The message was conveyed last month by Kuwait’s Foreign Minister Shaikh Sabah Al Khalid Al Sabah to Rouhani in Tehran.

The GCC countries agreed at their summit in Manama in December to send a message to their neighbour that would centre on starting a dialogue based on the principles of good neighbourliness, non-interference in the domestic affairs of other countries and respect for the sovereignty of other countries, the official said..."​

But morons would be morons and feast on stupidity of people ....

 

[hasnainfirst]

I explained it in other thread a while ago that Iran proposal for talks ain't new and has no connection with curremt situation ... actually we've had a security pact signed btw Iran and Saudis back in 2005 and just after that Saudis asked American to attack Iran ... moreover it's been for years Iran calling out for regional talks . idiots wouldn't understand:

2016:
Overcoming Regional Challenges in the Middle East: An Iranian Perspective
Chatham House, London

Q: Do you see a time where Saudi Arabia and Iran will collaborate? When will that be?
Mohammad Javad Zarif:
Tomorrow, if they're ready. We didn't break diplomatic relations. I'm saying it, and I'm saying it with every possible intention. We are ready to engage with all our neighbours in the Persian Gulf for security in the region, starting tomorrow. If they're ready

2017:
Iranian foreign minister urges regional cooperation after returning from Oman, Qatar

“We have repeatedly suggested a system of dialogue in the Persian Gulf, but unfortunately this has not been acknowledged by some countries, who see their future through tension, pressure and imposing on neighbors,” Zarif said, according to state media.

2018:
Zarif Says Neither Saudis Nor Iran Can Dominate Middle East; Talks Needed
Zarif said there is "a dire need for change" and "Iran is ready for it because we are big enough, old enough, mature enough to appreciate this reality."
"None of us can become the new hegemon" in the region, he said. "The era of hegemonic influence is long gone," he said. "Neither Iran nor Saudi Arabia can be the hegemons of the region. That's a fact."
Zarif called for a new "regional dialogue forum" that would include five Gulf Cooperation Council countries along with Iran, Iraq, and Yemen. He said such a dialogue has the potential to transform the Middle East.


Furthermore Iran responded to Kuwait's plan of dialogue positively in way Iran president had a trip to Kuwait to show Iran readiness for solving problems & misunderstandings .. despite the fact that dialogue plan was initiated by all members of PGCC including Saudis, they refused of taking any further step & Rohuni trip became pointless and no talk took place..

"...Sources told Kuwaiti daily Al Seyassah that Rouhani’s visit is linked to the message from the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), comprising Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, to Iran to start a strategic dialogue.

The message was conveyed last month by Kuwait’s Foreign Minister Shaikh Sabah Al Khalid Al Sabah to Rouhani in Tehran.

The GCC countries agreed at their summit in Manama in December to send a message to their neighbour that would centre on starting a dialogue based on the principles of good neighbourliness, non-interference in the domestic affairs of other countries and respect for the sovereignty of other countries, the official said..."​

But morons would be morons and feast on stupidity of people ....

As a common Iranian citizen , could you tell me what is the general public opinion about Pakistan in Iran ? Is it critical or positive , or maybe something in the middle ?

 

[Lincoln]

This is a forum , you don't know if a person is Iranian or indian , anybody can hide his identity , when propaganda is done against Pakistan via pushtun accounts , we say that they are being operated from india so i guess the same can be said here ...

You are an Israeli then.

 

[raptor22]

As a common Iranian citizen , could you tell me what is the general public opinion about Pakistan in Iran ? Is it critical or positive , or maybe something in the middle ?

Iranians have always had a positive view over Pakistan for example it's rare even I have never seen that we would celebrate another country national day but we do it about Pakistan:


If it wasn't for insecurity in our borders 2 countries had nothing else as source and bases of concern ...

 

[LeGenD]

If it was'nt for Iran , winning 1965 war and bitch slapping india would'nt have been possible ... and btw KSA and UAE have biggest export , import relations with india then why don't we end relation with them too ...

That was Shah's Iran....

 

[SIPRA]

Pakistan shall stay neutral in any conflict between Iran and GCC/US, for a variety of reasons, which have variously been discussed in this or similar threads.