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No resolution for Kashmir due to UN’s indolence and world’s apathy: Syed Ali Geelani

Pakistan can not allow indian occupiers in liberated parts cuz of the atrocities and massacre done in IOK. Indian occupiers could change demographics or never let refrendum happen.
That means Pakistan is afraid of the outcome of the plebiscite. Why are you afraid of the referendum when the UN itself is involved in this process? Try to have some confidence in you sir, no offense. Once you get the confidence to conduct a plebiscite, we may be able to resolve it once and for all, you know.
 
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Yes it is costing, but who is it costing more?
About resources, India has the resources to maintain its position. We've been doing it since independence.
About soldiers, yes some soldiers die, but that's soldiering. All countries loose troops, even Pakistan, when they're fighting terrorists. Their families are taken care of by the government. And we have one of the largest army by active numbers, do Kashmiri terrorists really think they are making a dent? :rofl:
But what about these Kashmiri terrorists? Do they have the resources? Who takes care of their families when the sole breadwinner dies?
Trust me, if waiting is your strategy, we can convert the LOC into the border. Indian citizens are fine with what we are putting into the Kashmir effort. Might I even say, Indians are demanding it :agree:

It is costing India more, that' common sense. Pakistan haven' stationed troops in IOK. It is your troops fighting the liberation movements in IOK and dozens of groups fighting for Kashmir liberation. Plus the weather is killing indian occupier terrorists too.

Yes india can maintain and Pakistan will keep playing it' game as it is doing since 47, it is your govt who cries foul when something happens.;) As I said Pakistan is fine with proceeding with current scenerio as long as Muslim population keep rising.:D

Pakistan's WOT started after 2007 when india launched its new terrorist groups via Afghanistan into Pakistan. Those sw1n3s are now almost eliminated. You have a large army means nothing, when your occupier terrorists are eliminated their family suffers, no compensation can help reduce the grief. Kashmiri civilians fighting for freedom have nothing to loose because of indian atrocities and genocide and because their land is under foreign occupation. Even if they dies puppet govt in IOK have to take care to "win hearts and mind" strategy.:lol:

If you could have changed, you would have already. Talk is cheap, do it if you can.:azn:

That means Pakistan is afraid of the outcome of the plebiscite. Why are you afraid of the referendum when the UN itself is involved in this process? Try to have some confidence in you sir, no offense. Once you get the confidence to conduct a plebiscite, we may be able to resolve it once and for all, you know.

Are you thick parrot? You are repeating same crap again and again. I said, Pakistan will not allow indian occupier in liberated areas to save people from indian genocide and atrocities. Another reason is you will change demographics.
 
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Calling me a dirty lying Indian won't change the fact that you are a moron, a blithering idiot who posted an Islamic flag and confused it with the Pakistani flag.
I never said they didn't raise Pakistani flag. Just that you're a someone who doesn't know his own country's flag. :rofl:
lol look at this imbecile back tracking like the little indian he is.
 
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We can debate Kashmir issue for another generation, but Kashmir's next generation is waiting to be wasted ....Till Kashmir people make deal with Indian Gov( Including independence) sans Pakistan, Kashmir valley is a gone case for next 100 year...BJP gov always knows about it...So it is just an wastage of efforts to spend any energy on it...

Let Pakistan spend its energy on CPEC and i hope they prospoer well...Same way, pollution is a big challenge for India in next 50 year which India has to deal with it...
 
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Pakistan will not allow indian occupier in liberated areas to save people from indian genocide and atrocities.
That's your personal perception and apparently nobody gives any importance to it thats why the UN hasn't changed its terms for the referendum.

And that's why I am repeating myself multiple times as you don't seem to understand this simple thing. I repeat, UN doesn't agree with your INCORRECT perception that's why they still want you to complete the preconditions for the referendum to take place. Did you understand it now? Or do I have to repeat it again?

Another reason is you will change demographics

Lol no Indian is allowed to settle in or buy property in Kashmir, did you know this? Why we do it? Because we firmly believe in NOT CHANGING THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

On the contrary, can you tell me if such a law exist for the Pakistanis ? Can a Pakistani Punjabi settle in Pakistan-held-Kashmir? I look forward to your answer on this.
 
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That's your personal perception and apparently nobody gives any importance to it thats why the UN hasn't changed its terms for the referendum.

And that's why I am repeating myself multiple times as you don't seem to understand this simple thing. I repeat, UN doesn't agree with your INCORRECT perception that's why they still want you to complete the preconditions for the referendum to take place. Did you understand it now? Or do I have to repeat it again?

I don' give a fkk about your self created logic. UN hasn' change it because nobody has called the meeting in Security council. Even then, India due to its large population is easy market for global nations to dump their products or to manufacture cheap products, another reason is to use it as a counter for China, therefore the western nation ignore your genocide and are silent on Kashmir issue. For Pakistan, it is correct thing to wait and keep shooting indian occupier terrorists visible from LOC, let india spend it' resources and let the Muslim population of Kashmir and even india rise.

Lol no Indian is allowed to settle in or buy property in Kashmir, did you know this? Why we do it? Because we firmly believe in NOT CHANGING THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

On the contrary, can you tell me if such a law exist for the Pakistanis ? Can a Pakistani Punjabi settle in Pakistan-held-Kashmir? I look forward to your answer on this.

You infiltrate IOK by your occupier terrorists and bjp terrorists.

Everyone's domicile says whether they are from Azad Kashmir or any province of Pakistan. Anyways, In Pakistan, Noone really wish to move in a cold mountainous terrain with narrow roads no public transport or industrial areas for jobs. Most Pakistanis prefer living in Punjab or Sind and now Gwadar in Balochistan.
 
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I don' give a fkk about your self created logic.
But as it turns out, the UN (that means THE WORLD) doesn't give a fkk about what you think, that's why they haven't changed the terms of the referendum lol.

UN hasn' change it because nobody has called the meeting in Security council.
Why Pakistan hasn't called out a meeting to change the terms of the UN referendum so far? My best guess is, Pakistan knows that the UN doesn't give a fkk. What you think?

Even then, India due to its large population is easy market for global nations to dump their products or to manufacture cheap products, another reason is to use it as a counter for China, therefore the western nation ignore your genocide and are silent on Kashmir issue.
Lol nice excuse to shy away from the referendum. You come up with such childish arguments which makes me repeat myself. Why are you afraid of the referendum anyway?

For Pakistan, it is correct thing to wait and keep shooting indian occupier terrorists visible from LOC, let india spend it' resources and let the Muslim population of Kashmir and even india rise
Sure, we are more than happy with the current set up. We have absolutely no problem with the status quo until the last day of this world. You're most welcome:)

Everyone's domicile says whether they are from Azad Kashmir or any province of Pakistan.
So how many Punjabis of Pak held Kashmir's domicile says that they are actually from Punjab?

Anyways, In Pakistan, Noone really wish to move in a cold mountainous terrain with narrow roads no public transport or industrial areas for jobs. Most Pakistanis prefer living in Punjab or Sind and now Gwadar in Balochistan
So no law in Pakistan to prevent the change of demographics of Pak held Kashmir? I'm glad you accepted it. Why Pakistan isn't serious to stop the change in demographics of Pak held Kashmir ? Don't you think Pakistan should make a law like India to show some serious in this matter ?

Again, I eagerly await your response.
 
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But as it turns out, the UN (aka WORLD) doesn't give a full about what you think, that's why they haven't changed the terms of the referendum lol.

UN does give a fkk therefore they have IOK as disputed territory. The terms will change when debate arise due to the request of some party involved.

Why Pakistan hasn't called out a meeting to change the terms of the UN referendum so far? My best guess is, Pakistan knows that the UN doesn't give a fkk. What you think?
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Pakistan hasn' called the meeting because it is pretty evident that the west wanna milk the cash cow of india due to which they will ignore the genocide and terrorism of india and vote in favor of india. Palestine example is in front of us, they want Jewish money which is why they ignore Palestine even when Palestine have huge backing of oil rich nations.

Lol nice excuse to shy away from the referendum. You come up with such childish arguments which makes me repeat myself. Why are you afraid of the referendum anyway?

You can repeat like a parrot. I will keep hammering the logic in your thick one.:D Pakistan will not allow your occupier terrorists to enter Liberated parts of Kashmir, people gave blood to liberate those areas and indian genocidal state won' be allowed. Just today Pakistan arranged meeting between 4 indian terrorists and Bhagwan, these terrorists were trying to enter Pakistan drunk in their media brain washed brain who were programmed to think that India is a Supa pawa.:sniper:
I will say, look at the flags being hoisted all over IOK, that shows the results of refrendum.:pakistan::pakistan:

Sure, we are more than happy with the current set up. We have absolutely no problem with the status quo until the last day of this world. You're most welcome:)

Glad to hear, it' win win for all. Pakistan gets to concentrate on western border to eliminate your terrorists, Kashmiris gets to increase their population and indian military keep getting $$ and relevance by indians and their govt. Obviously they also wanna milk the cash cow.

So how many Punjabis of Pak held Kashmir's domicile says that they are actually from Punjab?

Zero. It is not IOK where 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists create indian settlements to change demographics.

So no law in Pakistan to prevent the change of demographics? I'm glad you accepted it. Why Pakistan isn't serious to stop the change in demographics of Pak held Kashmir ? Don't you think Pakistan should make a law like India to show some serious in this matter ?

Just like you changed the demographics in IOK, and faked them as hindu pandits. You brought bhartis from bangali and dravida and maharatra to change demographics in IOK. Now you play politics on hindu pandit. All those are bangali and dravida and mataratrian. I say get them out of IOK now.

You try to be a smart @$$ you will get same reponse.
 
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UN does give a fkk therefore they have IOK as disputed territory.
But you don't agree to UN resolution about Kashmir referendum. Why you agree to this part then ? Why being selective?

Pakistan hasn' called the meeting because it is pretty evident that the west wanna milk the cash cow of india due to which they will ignore the genocide and terrorism of india and vote in favor of india. Palestine example is in front of us, they want Jewish money which is why they ignore Palestine even when Palestine have huge backing of oil rich nations.
Contradiction. West support India because India have money. But the west don't support Palestine even when Palestine have backing of the rich Arab nations? So does the west like only non-Muslim money? In short, Muslims are victims bla bla and bla?

How many excuse you'll make to shy away from the Kashmir referendum?
ou can repeat like a parrot. I will keep hammering the logic in your thick one.:D Pakistan will not allow your occupier terrorists to enter Liberated parts of Kashmir, people gave blood to liberate those areas and indian genocidal state won' be allowed. Just today Pakistan arranged meeting between 4 indian terrorists and Bhagwan, these terrorists were trying to enter Pakistan drunk in their media brain washed brain who were programmed to think that India is a Supa pawa.:sniper:
I will say, look at the flags being hoisted all over IOK, that shows the results of refrendum
More excuses to avoid UN referendum in Kashmir. I hope you get some confidence to conduct a referendum in Kashmir someday.
Zero. It is not IOK where 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists create indian settlements to change demographics.
India allowed non-kashmiris to settle in Kashmir? When ? Please provide the source.
Just like you changed the demographics in IOK, and faked them as hindu pandits. You brought bhartis from bangali and dravida and maharatra to change demographics in IOK. Now you play politics on hindu pandit. All those are bangali and dravida and mataratrian. I say get them out of IOK now.
Proof ? Have any? I can prove that no Indian can settle or buy a property in Kashmir. Can you prove that india allowed non Kashmiris to settle in Kashmir? Common, be a man and back up your claim.

I know you're scared of referendum in Kashmir, but you don't have to be scared to back up your own claim. I hope you won't disappoint me this time:)
 
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UN does give a fkk therefore they have IOK as disputed territory. The terms will change when debate arise due to the request of some party involved.



Pakistan hasn' called the meeting because it is pretty evident that the west wanna milk the cash cow of india due to which they will ignore the genocide and terrorism of india and vote in favor of india. Palestine example is in front of us, they want Jewish money which is why they ignore Palestine even when Palestine have huge backing of oil rich nations.



You can repeat like a parrot. I will keep hammering the logic in your thick one.:D Pakistan will not allow your occupier terrorists to enter Liberated parts of Kashmir, people gave blood to liberate those areas and indian genocidal state won' be allowed. Just today Pakistan arranged meeting between 4 indian terrorists and Bhagwan, these terrorists were trying to enter Pakistan drunk in their media brain washed brain who were programmed to think that India is a Supa pawa.:sniper:
I will say, look at the flags being hoisted all over IOK, that shows the results of refrendum.:pakistan::pakistan:



Glad to hear, it' win win for all. Pakistan gets to concentrate on western border to eliminate your terrorists, Kashmiris gets to increase their population and indian military keep getting $$ and relevance by indians and their govt. Obviously they also wanna milk the cash cow.



Zero. It is not IOK where 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists create indian settlements to change demographics.



Just like you changed the demographics in IOK, and faked them as hindu pandits. You brought bhartis from bangali and dravida and maharatra to change demographics in IOK. Now you play politics on hindu pandit. All those are bangali and dravida and mataratrian. I say get them out of IOK now.

You try to be a smart @$$ you will get same reponse.
Fake Hindu Pandits? Who were driven out of the valley? To change the demographics of the valley? What sense does that make?
 
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Fake Hindu Pandits? Who were driven out of the valley? To change the demographics of the valley? What sense does that make?
It doesnt. But when you run out of arguments, you resort to speaking nonsense so that you're avoided and are saved from the humiliation of losing a debate.
 
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But you don't agree to UN resolution about Kashmir referendum. Why you agree to this part then ? Why being selective?

UN resolution call for refrendum in IOK. Get your terrorists out and allow refrendum by handing over the territory to Pakistan. You will loose in seconds.

Contradiction. West support India because India have money. But the west don't support Palestine even when Palestine have backing of the rich Arab nations? So does the west like only non-Muslim money? In short, Muslims are victims bla bla and bla?

West support india because india have cheap as fkk labor which can be used to work for manufacturing cheap products so that the owners of company earns more. Also it have bigger market to dump products and make bucks. That is against Pakistan which is relatively smaller market and less labor. West does not support Palestine because Israel is where the money really is. You must be a bharti living in a cave to not know that.

How many excuse you'll make to shy away from the Kashmir referendum?

It is only indian blood that submits excuses. That' your trademark no one can beat you.

More excuses to avoid UN referendum in Kashmir. I hope you get some confidence to conduct a referendum in Kashmir someday.

Pakistan didn' even conduct refrendum and Kashmiris who are liberated demanded for making them province. Whereas in IOK you can see flags of Pakistan all over.

India allowed non-kashmiris to settle in Kashmir? When ? Please provide the source.

7 lakh indian occupier terrorists are non kashmiris. So called hindu pandits are non kashmiris from delhi. Etc etc.

Proof ? Have any? I can prove that no Indian can settle or buy a property in Kashmir. Can you prove that india allowed non Kashmiris to settle in Kashmir? Common, be a man and back up your claim.


I know you're scared of referendum in Kashmir, but you don't have to be scared to back up your own claim. I hope you won't disappoint me this time:)

Don't expect me to spoonfeed you as if you are my s0n.
SRINAGAR, India — Thousands of people demonstrated in the streets of Indian Kashmir on Friday, protesting the transfer of state land to a Hindu shrine in what they charge is a ploy to build Hindu settlements and change the demographic balance in this region, which has a Muslim majority.

The police used live ammunition, tear gas and bamboo batons in an attempt to quell some of the largest protests against Indian rule since the outbreak of a separatist rebellion in the Himalayan region nearly two decades ago. Three people have been killed and hundreds wounded in demonstrations over the past five days.

The protests were sparked by the recent transfer of 99 acres, or 40 hectares, of land by the state government to the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board, a trust running a Hindu shrine, to construct facilities for the hundreds of thousands of pilgrims who flock there every year.

The pilgrims come to see a large icicle housed in a cave that devout Hindus revere as an incarnation of the Lord Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction and regeneration.

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But Kashmiris, long mistrustful of the Indian government that has put down the uprising with a heavy hand and has some 700,000 soldiers based in Kashmir, saw nefarious designs in the move, believing that India would turn the structures into a permanent settlement for Hindus.

"The government has transferred land in order to change the demography of this place," said Mian Qayoom, a prominent lawyer and head of a recently formed Action Committee Against Land Transfer.

"India has transformed this pilgrimage into an operation and is trying to imitate the Israeli operation of settlements in the occupied land of Palestine," said Syed Ali Shah Geelani, the head of an umbrella group of hard-line separatist political parties, who has been leading the protests.

Protests rock Indian Kashmir over fear of Hindu settlements https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/world/asia/27iht-27kashmir.14053613.html

It doesnt. But when you run out of arguments, you resort to speaking nonsense so that you're avoided and are saved from the humiliation of losing a debate.

It is you who is farting nonsense. Seems like a true product of modhi.
 
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Incorrect. It called for a plebiscite in ALL of Kashmir, including parts ceded by Pakistan to China, and those under Indian and Pakistani control.

Yes, sorry for that. I know it was plebiscite and it actually means any party, India or even Pakistan cannot reject the results.

There is NO part that is ceded to China by Pakistan, you are wrong on that one.
 
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Yes, sorry for that. I know it was plebiscite and it actually means any party, India or even Pakistan cannot reject the results.

There is NO part that is ceded to China by Pakistan, you are wrong on that one.

Please read up on Aksai Chin and the Shaksgam Valley for more information.
 
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