No place for women in Indian Navy's IT brigade

[Markus]

Why do women have to be included in everything?

 

[janon]

Males can remove their shirts , doesnt require pads every month , nobody will stare at males , Males cant be r*ped if captured , males have no problem in polygamy .... many things will be considered when inducting females into armed forces .

Not true at all.

 

[OrionHunter]

All said and done, though the female species are pretty good at their jobs, but they just cannot be equated with men in the biological sense. For example, during a swimming test at the OTA a couple of lady cadets complained that they cannot swim because of their periods!! Sheeesh!

Needless to say, they had to be failed and given a second chance much later together with the other failures, thus losing out on marks!

 

[tvsram1992]

Not true at all.

As far as it matters to India , PA and PLA dont have gays , even if they have the other army men wont remain quite . Atleast they cant take chastity of men .
Still you are not convinced , males cant give birth to war babies .

 

[janon]

As far as it matters to India , PA and PLA dont have gays , even if they have the other army men wont remain quite . Atleast they cant take chastity of men .
Still you are not convinced , males cant give birth to war babies .

This sounds like the stupid rhetoric of iranian mullahs that iran doesnt have gays, or that of african warlords. There are gays everywhere, it does not depend on nationality. A huge percentage of sexual abuse of boys goes unreported in India because of ignorant attitudes like this. Homosexuality is not a "disease spread by westerners", it is a biological issue that human and most mammalian species have been documented to exhibit. In fact, even non mammalian - the mallard duck was the first recorded species.

Use google and educate yourself a bit more.

 

[trinity]

It should never be about sex. It should always be about the best person for the job all times. If women do a better job, give them the position.

 

[tvsram1992]

This sounds like the stupid rhetoric of iranian mullahs that iran doesnt have gays, or that of african warlords. There are gays everywhere, it does not depend on nationality. A huge percentage of sexual abuse of boys goes unreported in India because of ignorant attitudes like this. Homosexuality is not a "disease spread by westerners", it is a biological issue that human and most mammalian species have been documented to exhibit. In fact, even non mammalian - the mallard duck was the first recorded species.

Use google and educate yourself a bit more.

From your previous post quoted below and above post i can conclude that you are a gay according to your logic . Doesnt mean army will have gays that too in a group .

Generally people who whine the loudest about gays are the ones who are gays P

Generally people who whine the loudest about pornography are the ones who obsessively watch it the most.

Generally people who whine th loudest against nightclubs are the ones who are envious of people who frequent nightclubs, and know that they can't. Otherwise, it shouldn't bother you if someone else visits a nightclub.

Many a time (and here I'm not generalising), people who speak derisively about gays and want to curb their rights are deeply closeted, self loathing homosexuals. Ted haggard comes to mind.

Sorry, gay people deserve the same rights that others do.

Do you think in these days some one would r*pe army men that too in group ? Personally they might be gays but will they r*pe captured men when all of their colleagues are there ? Grow up
lol at your ignorance

Dont just reply because you need to back up your argument , make sure that your post makes sense .

 

[janon]

From your previous post quoted below and above post i can conclude that you are a gay according to your logic . Doesnt mean army will have gays that too in a group .


Do you think in these days some one would r*pe army men that too in group ? Personally they might be gays but will they r*pe captured men when all of their colleagues are there ? Grow up
lol at your ignorance

Dont just reply because you need to back up your argument , make sure that your post makes sense .

My post makes eminent sense. I said people who WHINE ABOUT gays and want to take away their rights are usually deeply closeted homosexuals. I didn't whine about gays, I expressed my belief that they deserve the same rights as straights. If you cant understand the distinction between whining about something and sticking up for something, you are the one who needs to grow up.

I was expecting you to come back at me with the "I know you are gay ha ha ha" non-argument, as if that matters to you. Thats an ad hominem attack, the last refuge of the immature and ignorant. I don't care what you think my sexual orientation is - only my girlfriend's (or boyfriend's) view on that matters to me. If you think I'm gay, so be it.

If you were a little more informed, you can read about the soldiers who have been raped after being taken prisoners of war. Please spend some time and educate yourself as I requested before, since ignorant attitudes like yours make a big problem. There is a reason that the phrase "turkish prison" has come to mean some very dark things. (No offence to turks intended.)

One of us is an ignorant bigot, and it's not me. One of our posts makes sense, and it's not yours. First you claimed there are no gays in India, pak and China - just use google and find out something aobut sexual abuse of boys in these places. Then you are claiming that soldiers won't do that because other soldiers won't let them - as if other soldiers will give the green signal if its a woman, but not if its a man. ANd as if they do these things with the consent and permission of their comrades. Grow up.

(Even in a country like libya, where they subscribe to your theory of "no gays in my country", they sodomised ghaddaffi when they captured him. It's on youtube.)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

http://www.asafeworldforwomen.org/conflict/bosnia/428-bosnia.html

 

[Abingdonboy]

what males can do, females can too

That simply is not true.

 

[janon]

lmao... So I hate drugs, does that mean I secretly desire drugs? I also hate poverty and vocally oppose to measures which increase that, so does that mean i secretly desire to live in poverty? Are you fuckin moron?

Keep your dumbass logic within Gaymerica, Mr.faggot.

From where do there gays come from. Sheesh!

There is a difference - homosexuality is victimless, as is pornography. Your neighbours being homosexual don't affect you in any way. Other people watching **** won't affect you in any way. And yet you came here and started whining about pornography, nightclubs and gays in a thread that has nothing to do with any of those. That is why the logic applies to this case.

Poverty and drugs on the other hand are not victimless, they are social evils with real consequences for the individual victims, as well as the rest of society. Your post has been reported for personal insults with no substance. I'm not gay (or you can believe that I am if you want, as I said before) - but I will tell you where gays come from - they come from their mothers' wombs, just like you.

 

[manofwar]

This is even after Banasthali, a reputed Girls only University, had 100% placement with all of the selections in the IT sector??
This isn't a question of capability afterall.........Then why???

 

[Su-11]

There is a difference - homosexuality is victimless, as is pornography. Your neighbours being homosexual don't affect you in any way. Other people watching **** won't affect you in any way. And yet you came here and started whining about pornography, nightclubs and gays in a thread that has nothing to do with any of those. That is why the logic applies to this case.

Poverty and drugs on the other hand are not victimless, they are social evils with real consequences for the individual victims, as well as the rest of society. Your post has been reported for personal insults with no substance. I'm not gay (or you can believe that I am if you want, as I said before) - but I will tell you where gays come from - they come from their mothers' wombs, just like you.

Why the hell are u changing your argument in the middle? First read what you wrote idiot.

As for the victimless argument, incest is also victimless. Lets promote that.

 

[janon]

Why the hell are u changing your argument in the middle? First read what you wrote idiot.

As for the victimless argument, incest is also victimless. Lets promote that.

Care to explain where I changed my argument? Why didn't you do that, instead of simply making that assertion?

And no, incest is not victimless. It has severe consequences for the one who is in a dependant position for whatever reason - it is an abuse of authority. If you want to learn why, there are excellent resources about incest survivors on the web. But that also is not the topic of the thread. So I suggest you stick to the topic, instead of bringing in your personal obsessions here.

And nobody here was promoting homosexuality or ****, this thread was about women in the IT sector in the Indian navy. Out of the blue you came and started venting against homosexuality, nightclubs and ****.

When certain people start venting about lack of toilets in a thread about nuclear subs, I usually infer that they are highly constipated or suffering from IBS. Similarly when someone starts bashing gays or **** in a thread about women in IT, what should I infer?

 

[Su-11]

Care to explain where I changed my argument? Why didn't you do that?

And no, incest is not victimless. It has severe consequences for the one who is in a dependant position for whatever reason - it is an abuse of authority.

And nobody here was promoting homosexuality or ****, this thread was about women in the IT sector in the Indian navy. Out of the blue you came and started venting against homosexuality, nightclubs and ****.

When some people start venting about lack of toilets in a thread about nuclear subs, I usually infer that they are highly constipated or suffering from IBS. Similarly when someone starts bashing gays in a thread about women in IT, what should I infer?

There are also consensual incest, Einstein.
Care to explain? Read your first post dammit. Or you don't use your brain while typing?

I was venting on the media in general. You were the one who attacked me quoting "Generally people who whine the loudest about pornography are the ones who obsessively watch it the most."

 

[janon]

There are also consensual incest, Einstein.
Care to explain? Read your first post dammit. Or you don't use your brain without thinking?

I was venting on the media in general. You were who attacked me quoting "Generally people who whine the loudest about pornography are the ones who obsessively watch it the most."

There is nosuch thing as consensual incest, any form of incest is abusive, due to the inherent nature of power structures in the family. But I have no interest in explaing these things to an uninformed juvenile who is incapable of making a coherent argument, other than personal insults. As I said before, if you genuinely wish to learn about that, please refer to writings by psychologists who train in counselling incest survivors, or by the survivors themselves. I cannot educate you.

But if your only interest in incest is limited to your personal fantasies, well, good luck with that. You can continue believing what you want, contrary to the accepted wisdom of people who work in that field.

I will give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you have a genuine desire to learn about these things, and weren't simply bringing in incest because of your preoccupation with it, like you earlier whines about gays and nightclubs and ****. So here is some reading material:

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-02-05/...ictims-statistics-on-child-abuse?_s=PM:HEALTH
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/03/mackenzie_phillips_rape_incest/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-leo/mackenzie-phillips-rape-i_b_295545.html
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/03/mackenzie_phillips_rape_incest/

Yea, and please care to explain where I changed any argument. I requested that once, you couldn't. Either explain it, or admit that I didn't.