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When Hakimullah Mehsood assumed command of the TTP, Pakistan’s sectarian killings became more frequent. Hakimullah had a long history of association with the ASWJ. Under him, the TTP began targeting any sect of Islam that these Deobandi militants considered to be “munafaqeen” (those who spread discord). Not only were Pakistan’s Shia under attack (in addition to Ahmedi and Pakistan’s religious minorities), so were Pakistan’s massive Sufi population, frequently referred to as Barelvis. The TTP began openly attacking Sufi shrines.

Pakistan’s military and civilian leaders have yet to come to any consensus on a political strategy to contend with these militants who have claimed tens of thousands of Pakistani lives since 2001. The military, for its part, is reluctant to take them on for several reasons. First, parts of the military still see Islamist militants as important tools of foreign policy in India and Afghanistan. In fact, for some, the loyal Islamist militants will become even more important as the United States withdraws from Afghanistan and as Pakistan needs militants that are loyal to the Pakistani project. Second, because these Deobandi militant groups share overlapping membership with each other and with the JUI, the JUI provide their militant allies with political cover. Third, the military is unwilling to eliminate them in entirety because it believes that some of them can be rehabilitated and persuaded to aim their guns, suicide vests, and vehicle-born IEDS away from the Pakistani state and towards Afghanistan or India. (Yes. This does mean the Pakistan army—which has received some $27 billion from Washington for being a “partner in the Global War on Terrorism”—is encouraging its militants to kill Americans and their allies in Afghanistan.) Fourth, the army’s will is no doubt conditioned by its ability. While the army could certainly do more, its record at combating Pakistan’s domestic enemies is mixed at best and has come at a high human cost in terms of civilian casualties and massive internal displacement. This is why Pakistan’s security and intelligence agencies rely upon the U.S. drone program to take out the terrorists it cannot. Finally, for national counter-terrorism efforts, Pakistan’s police should take the lead. But it is well-known that Pakistan’s police are not up to that task.

As for the civilian government, it is likely amenable to some sort of a political compromise with the TTP. Even if Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who is himself a right-of-center politician, prefers more coercive solutions, he fears the TTP. He also relies upon those voters in the Punjab who support the agenda of the TTP and their anti-Shia sectarian allies. Sharif fears that, should he muster the testicularity to support military actions against the militants, his chief rival, Imran Khan, would strip away some of his electoral base. Like Sharif, Khan contested the 2013 general election under the banner of reconciling with the TTP, opposing military actions against them, and denouncing the drone program which has killed many TTP leaders.

Who’s Killing Pakistan’s Shia and Why?

I just paste one part of the article, click the above link to read whole article some of it's points are so valid.
 
Oh dear, are we doomed?? Why can't the so called #1 agency in the World find this guy and kill him even if he's hiding in Afghanistan??
 
imagin the amount of money tother agencies specially RAW spending in a country where you have curpt politicians who make billions of dollars by hook or crook where simple person cant get job easily and poverty rates are high.
did any one ask question why it never happend before mainly cuz indian economy was not as good as its now they were not in position to spend anything outside now they have too much money and media to spread lies like they just did in few days ago in Helo crash and that boat drama made by indian army... their media is on the front line to spread negative image of Pak.. and indians only believe in their media simply cuz many of them are not expose to international media..
if they only watch RT (russian Tv) they will have good idea.
instead of share things they come here to defend india for no reason Pakistan is suffering soon india going to bleed just dont push us against the wall.. we will not hesitate to help you collaspe your economy and destroy your nations dream to be super power...
every one know we have capacity and capability to do that.
 
When Hakimullah Mehsood assumed command of the TTP, Pakistan’s sectarian killings became more frequent. Hakimullah had a long history of association with the ASWJ. Under him, the TTP began targeting any sect of Islam that these Deobandi militants considered to be “munafaqeen” (those who spread discord). Not only were Pakistan’s Shia under attack (in addition to Ahmedi and Pakistan’s religious minorities), so were Pakistan’s massive Sufi population, frequently referred to as Barelvis. The TTP began openly attacking Sufi shrines.

Pakistan’s military and civilian leaders have yet to come to any consensus on a political strategy to contend with these militants who have claimed tens of thousands of Pakistani lives since 2001. The military, for its part, is reluctant to take them on for several reasons. First, parts of the military still see Islamist militants as important tools of foreign policy in India and Afghanistan. In fact, for some, the loyal Islamist militants will become even more important as the United States withdraws from Afghanistan and as Pakistan needs militants that are loyal to the Pakistani project. Second, because these Deobandi militant groups share overlapping membership with each other and with the JUI, the JUI provide their militant allies with political cover. Third, the military is unwilling to eliminate them in entirety because it believes that some of them can be rehabilitated and persuaded to aim their guns, suicide vests, and vehicle-born IEDS away from the Pakistani state and towards Afghanistan or India. (Yes. This does mean the Pakistan army—which has received some $27 billion from Washington for being a “partner in the Global War on Terrorism”—is encouraging its militants to kill Americans and their allies in Afghanistan.) Fourth, the army’s will is no doubt conditioned by its ability. While the army could certainly do more, its record at combating Pakistan’s domestic enemies is mixed at best and has come at a high human cost in terms of civilian casualties and massive internal displacement. This is why Pakistan’s security and intelligence agencies rely upon the U.S. drone program to take out the terrorists it cannot. Finally, for national counter-terrorism efforts, Pakistan’s police should take the lead. But it is well-known that Pakistan’s police are not up to that task.

As for the civilian government, it is likely amenable to some sort of a political compromise with the TTP. Even if Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who is himself a right-of-center politician, prefers more coercive solutions, he fears the TTP. He also relies upon those voters in the Punjab who support the agenda of the TTP and their anti-Shia sectarian allies. Sharif fears that, should he muster the testicularity to support military actions against the militants, his chief rival, Imran Khan, would strip away some of his electoral base. Like Sharif, Khan contested the 2013 general election under the banner of reconciling with the TTP, opposing military actions against them, and denouncing the drone program which has killed many TTP leaders.

Who’s Killing Pakistan’s Shia and Why?

I just paste one part of the article, click the above link to read whole article some of it's points are so valid.
These jokers hardly look at facts but are always ready to talk bullshi# all kind of terrorism has massively reduced yes it will not end over night but it has reduced more than 60 % and it will reduce more when entire leadership of these groups are eliminated
 
Oh dear, are we doomed?? Why can't the so called #1 agency in the World find this guy and kill him even if he's hiding in Afghanistan??

May be you can help them? See these poor bastards don't have the guts and ability, they lack your leadership and skills to track him. Volunteer?
 
These jokers hardly look at facts but are always ready to talk bullshi# all kind of terrorism has massively reduced yes it will not end over night but it has reduced more than 60 % and it will reduce more when entire leadership of these groups are eliminated
The routes need to be cut even you cut the tree they still remain inside, and peoples like you are the routes, open up mister don't hide under a fake face you are on top in this Forum to distributing the Muslim and non Muslim certificates.
 
May be you can help them? See these poor bastards don't have the guts and ability, they lack your leadership and skills to track him. Volunteer?



Atleast you admitted that they're not up to the mark, and have FAILED to protect their citizens.. We have given them too much free hand, still no results..
 
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Atleast you admitted that they're not up to the mark, and have FAILED to protect their citizens.. We have given them too much free hand, still no results..

Protection of citizens from domestic threats is the job of Police and civil government, so still don't know how you can blame agencies? Or you have not seen instances where warnings had been issued for a possible attack on a particular place but government still failed to beef up the security and protect its citizens?
 
Protection of citizens from domestic threats is the job of Police and civil government, so still don't know how you can blame agencies? Or you have not seen instances where warnings had been issued for a possible attack on a particular place but government still failed to beef up the security and protect its citizens?



So whats the role of security forces and ISI then?? Do you seriously believe they are upto the mark??? How many terrorist attacks have happened inside Pakistan?? Attack on Srilankan team, Karachi Airport attack, Marriot Hotel, APS to name a few , what are security forces upto?? why can't they deal with the Talibans?? These Taliban threats are far from domestic threats, they are NATIONAL level threats..!!


Is the threat level just too High or the terrorists are far too strong or the security forces and intelligence just too incompetent to deal with them?? Some 50,000 Pakistani have been killed,Its over 14 years and still we are not able to Bring peace to the country..
 
So whats the role of security forces and ISI then?? Do you seriously believe they are upto the mark??? How many terrorist attacks have happened inside Pakistan?? Attack on Srilankan team, Karachi Airport attack, Marriot Hotel, APS to name a few , what are security forces upto?? why can't they deal with the Talibans?? These Taliban threats are far from domestic threats, they are NATIONAL level threats..!!


Is the threat level just too High or the terrorists are far too strong or the security forces and intelligence just too incompetent to deal with them?? Some 50,000 Pakistani have been killed,Its over 14 years and still we are not able to Bring peace to the country..

Blame the ones who did peace pacts with these lunatics and did not have balls to start action against them when the time was right. At that time threat level in numbers would have been few thousands now it has crossed 30K I guess. The attacks you are referring to happened or happen with in cities, and I can bet you that it is impossible that a police SHO of the area does not know who is who and what is what. If they don't then they deserve to be dismissed and hanged.
 
Blame the ones who did peace pacts with these lunatics and did not have balls to start action against them when the time was right. At that time threat level in numbers would have been few thousands now it has crossed 30K I guess. The attacks you are referring to happened or happen with in cities, and I can bet you that it is impossible that a police SHO of the area does not know who is who and what is what. If they don't then they deserve to be dismissed and hanged.

LOL! blaming poor SHO will not solve problems.

Look. the only solution is to cut off relations with Saudi and usa. there is no other solution.

The filthy wahabis in the state ranks will start dying on their own. otherwise tomorrow people will be facing bigger wahabi run threats like Jud and JI who are the last Evil cards in pak currently being strengthened.
 
LOL! blaming poor SHO will not solve problems.

Look. the only solution is to cut off relations with Saudi and usa. there is no other solution.

The filthy wahabis in the state ranks will start dying on their own. otherwise tomorrow people will be facing bigger wahabi run threats like Jud and JI who are the last Evil cards in pak currently being strengthened.
And become terrorist and backward state like this one for whom you cheer all day long ?

So whats the role of security forces and ISI then?? Do you seriously believe they are upto the mark??? How many terrorist attacks have happened inside Pakistan?? Attack on Srilankan team, Karachi Airport attack, Marriot Hotel, APS to name a few , what are security forces upto?? why can't they deal with the Talibans?? These Taliban threats are far from domestic threats, they are NATIONAL level threats..!!


Is the threat level just too High or the terrorists are far too strong or the security forces and intelligence just too incompetent to deal with them?? Some 50,000 Pakistani have been killed,Its over 14 years and still we are not able to Bring peace to the country..
And please do also mention the number of attacks that were thawarted, just to be fair
Bringing peace to country is just massive generalization due to back of ability to understand the geopolitics of the region
 
and again you are fingering here when already you backed off long ago.
@waz reported for deeply insulting post.
Like master like slave. You were litrelly held to death where you couldn't even provide any evidence to your stupid claim and intact even a shia discredited you. So in reality you were checked out from the bin
Oh and do you remember getting warning from mods and a negative rating for your stupid posts

Its a proof enough to show the Kevel of stupidity I was dealing with
 
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