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Oh..please don't separate...doesn't matter to us
Neither he was addressing the bhartyas so please dont get sleepless.
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Oh..please don't separate...doesn't matter to us
Yes report back here with your findings on that forum, sir. You'll get a grasp of real hatred and racism towards Pakistan and Pakistanis from your fellow Indians and god forbid if there's a Pakistani presenting a different POV, forget abusive language toward his nationality his family is dragged into the midst, too. I've seen plenty of such phychotic and racist behavior towards Pakistanis from Indians on their websites, and many members here might attest to it and may have their own experiences. Heck, I believe you may be quiet aware of it too. On Pakistani websites and forums Indians are always given a proper independent and fair voice to express themselves with very little hostility and strict moderation toward personal and racist and abusive remarks. Sadly, that's not the case for Pakistanis on an Indian website, and I think you and other Indian members here know that quiet well. So for you to come here and start accusing Pakistani people of having hatred toward India is very hypocritical of you.
And how convenient of you to point out one talk show/host who is highly discredited by majority of pakistanis while totally disregaring your own Pak-basing media, it's all too typical indian behavior. But you know what, no hard feelings, god knows we have our own problems and shortcommings and need to focus on those, that should be our priorty, highlighting your problems in no way are gonna fix ours, what you do with your issues including anti-pak sentiments or don't, do shouldn't be our problem.
All Muslims are equal and there is no difference if Quran was revealed to an Arab or non Arab.
The Prophet (PBUH) clearly said There is no preference to Arabs over non-Arabs, white over black and so on.
whoever leads (kindly correct your misperception its not ruling but leading) so whoever leads the Ummah, it must be a powerful country in terms of military, strategy, economy and many other things. Or the leader could be chosen by consensus.
And no Pakistanis do not tend to take our troubles as troubles of Islam rather the world and specially Indians take any achievement by Pakistan as achievement of Islam hence try to create troubles for Pakistan.
What I was pointing at was that the Mullahs already have spoken against the actions of the Pakistan Army. It is not unusual for Kayani to speak up in this regard since the debate was not started by him.
Whatever problem you are describing does not apply to Kayani who minds his own business till its absolutely necessary to speak up.
Moreover it will be factually wrong to spin this statement and give Kayani some sort of Mullah outlook.
Yes report back here with your findings on that forum, sir. You'll get a grasp of real hatred and racism towards Pakistan and Pakistanis from your fellow Indians and god forbid if there's a Pakistani presenting a different POV, forget abusive language toward his nationality his family is dragged into the midst, too. I've seen plenty of such phychotic and racist behavior towards Pakistanis from Indians on their websites, and many members here might attest to it and may have their own experiences. Heck, I believe you may be quiet aware of it too. On Pakistani websites and forums Indians are always given a proper independent and fair voice to express themselves with very little hostility and strict moderation toward personal and racist and abusive remarks. Sadly, that's not the case for Pakistanis on an Indian website, and I think you and other Indian members here know that quiet well. So for you to come here and start accusing Pakistani people of having hatred toward India is very hypocritical of you.
And how convenient of you to point out one talk show/host who is highly discredited by majority of pakistanis while totally disregaring your own Pak-basing media, it's all too typical indian behavior. But you know what, no hard feelings, god knows we have our own problems and shortcommings and need to focus on those, that should be our priorty, highlighting your problems in no way are gonna fix ours, what you do with your issues including anti-pak sentiments or don't, do shouldn't be our problem.
I'm not, bro and it's not just one website there are numerous. But potatoe patata, it doesn't even matter, I'm sure in person Indians are a lot friendly as my own personal experience indicates, probably it's the phycology of being on the Internet that does something, I don't know. But in the end, like I emphasized before, instead of hounding each other over nonsense and wasting our energies on blame games it's about time we should redirect our energy and effort into our own problem solving. Cuz once again call out each other on their shortcommings is not going to solve the other party's problems one bit.
Abu,
You maybe correct, but it seems that this declaration of Kiyani was a response to this Islamic Republic of Pakistan to Peoples Republic of Pakistan
So, some parties want to change the name of Pakistan such that its islamic identity is not stressed, but why? what could be the reason?
Maybe you can do the honors since you are near his home.
If it were not for tolerance and respect for people of different cultures and religions there would never have been a country called India.
In order to understand the oneness of the nation, general and religion or even the Planetary Linkage of material and Non-Material things; An Indian has to come out of the fold of Nehru, Savarkar's teaching and re-morph him/herself with the understanding of CREATOR'S reach. If Islam were out of equation then there wasn't any need of the creation of Pakistan at the first place and if it was taken away from national fabrics then the nation wouldn't exist anymore, it was as simple as that. My understanding is that Kayani is realizing that PAK-MIL is the ultimate target and the creations of TTP along with other peskies are just means to achieve that end. So, figuring army is on the fault line, he is trying to reach out the real friends of PAK, I.E. Islam loving emotional awam, thanks.one is a nation, one is general, one is religon. ok it is understood that general and nation are related but what has it to do with Islam. No Islam is not gonna save Pakistan in terms of crisis when the problems in Pakistan are because of the same Islam.
one needs to separate Islam and Pakistan for the effective running. Islam should be the heart and the inspiration for Pakistan not the state of Pakistan.
oh for crying out loud .. how the hell does a country call itself secular where 80% of its population is divided among a brahmans and untouchables and god knows what.... you dont become secular by putting it in your books...and if u were that calm and peace loving 47 would never have happened
i must add that I present your quarrelsome neighbor's POV...
have seen them propaganda videos...on u-tube of Pakistani hindus proclaiming their love for Pakistan and warning India of all sorts of $hit...you have to keep a pair of their shoes right by your bedside if you are in a state like Pak and hold an office that wields enough power...or least could launch a coup de'tat to get enough...
this statement Asim...carries major weight...
Infact, India has quite close relations with Iran and India is also a quite a prominant donator to Palestine. .
I am surprised that no one is going deeper into this issue. If Kiyani is saying that no one can separate Islam from Pakistan, then it simply means that there is an active attempt to separate islam from Pakistan to the extent that Gen. himself had to reassure the people.
it is the Muslim groups in india which donate for Palestine cause.
as for iran -- you launched israeli spy satellites, voted against Iran @ UN, and snubbed the pipeline deal. I dont think Iran cares much for india at the moment, though Chahbahar is an interesting attempt to rival Gwadar