No, Islam Isn’t Inherently Violent, And The Math Proves It!

[Dubious]

How can you know spaghetti cannot fly, may be there is a special one. And about him he is invisible, but he created the world that why we all crave food. Making any sense? The religions also makes same kind of sense to me.

Fair enough now present me someplace where we can read about it?

Sahih International
Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.
Same book leech is nowhere mentioned, here is the link

I also gave you this why overlook it?:

Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

 

[gslv]

Fair enough now present me someplace where we can read about it?

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...YO5phgESDBTHML40A&sig2=fAYE4vlSSiPnp8RKrwnPHg

 

[Dubious]

Non Muslims also think quran.com in the same way, word of a man nothing more so get off the high horse.
Btw of links on science in religious books I can also post gazillion links on the science in other religious books.

Yes I am aware hence I am not assertive nor bothered! My choice your choice its up to us! But the bold part showed me how much you actually believe yourself...Why am I considered on a high horse? Coz I Believe something you cant?

Can you show me science from other holy books? Please do so established science not that god made the earth in so many days and needed to rest ones! Remember same flow, same mathematical balance and also fit for eternity!

 

[gslv]

I also gave you this why overlook it?:

Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.
What's the meaning of firm lodging.

 

[Dubious]

Still can anyone write something exactly like that without copying . that was the debate not originality.

Originality yes! I am astonished at your word twisting habits to allow yourself to live in denial! Lovely! Just shows how much truth you present yourself!

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...YO5phgESDBTHML40A&sig2=fAYE4vlSSiPnp8RKrwnPHg

link doesnt work!

Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.
What's the meaning of firm lodging.

I am not sure where you got that My post said:

hen We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed.

While your own research showed this:

Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.

SO I am not sure where you got the firm lodging from

 

[gslv]

Orig, so what's firm lodgiinality yes! I am astonished at your word twisting habits to allow yourself to live in denial! Lovely! Just shows how much truth you present yourself!

I am not twisting words, I am just saying what Muslims saying for many years that Islam not a new one. As Abraham is the original Muslim and torah was corrupted so ppl needed a republication of true word. As many said it's not a new thing.

SO I am not sure where you got the firm lodging from

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And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.

Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.

Since when an fertilized ovum is a sperm-drop. So as I said no twisted words. Take the word as it. Prove sperm-drop drop as a fertilized ovum.
And what is clay.

Can you show me science from other holy books?

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There is one link, same kind of things that you have posted, I don't believe in either. Only twisting the language that is happening.

link doesnt work!

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...5gf4OZN5IfTL6gjaQ&sig2=cZcp5-3NNbpPmXIM7Vpt8Q

 

[Dubious]

I am not twisting words, I am just saying what Muslims saying for many years that Islam not a new one. As Abraham is the original Muslim and torah was corrupted so ppl needed a republication of true word. As many said it's not a new thing.

Wow so Muhammad we wrote the stuff from the Torah making sure he didnt "correct" the right stuff but managed to randomly "correct" the false stuff like making earth in so and so days and taking rest after that....did all that without writting it down at the age of 40 over a period of 20 plus years! Wow! That sounds like an awesome man!

And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.

Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.

Since when an fertilized ovum is a sperm-drop. So as I said no twisted words. Take the word as it. Prove sperm-drop drop as a fertilized ovum.

You are the doctor you are supposed to disporve it! Plus if you cant understand like any normal human who doesnt know the language, you will look for a better translation!

Here are other translations ...MIND YOU they are translations and in Arabic each word can be equated to more than 1 English word!

Sahih International: Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.

Pickthall: Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators!

Yusuf Ali: Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!

Shakir: Then We made the seed a clot, then We made the clot a lump of flesh, then We made (in) the lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, then We caused it to grow into another creation, so blessed be Allah, the best of the creators.

Muhammad Sarwar: The living germ, then, was turned into a shapeless lump of flesh from which bones were formed. The bones, then, were covered with flesh. At this stage, We caused it to become another creature. All blessings belong to God, the best Creator.

Mohsin Khan: Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators.

Arberry: then We created of the drop a clot then We created of the clot a tissue then We created of the tissue bones then We garmented the bones in flesh; thereafter We produced him as another creature. So blessed be God, the fairest of creators!

 

[The SC]

No brother I never claimed that....

Like you talk of scholars I read them up so I would suggest you present me something to read...


And why I am asking you to present such an ayat so we can have a look at its context....

Please present an ayat!

There are whole libraries full of their work brother, do some Ijtihad and there you go. I can give you an endless list but it won't help you that much, unless you intend to spend the rest of your life studying them.

The definitions of kafir do not apply to people who have never heard of Islam, Koran or its Ayat. You can find such people in the Amazon forest for instance.

 

[Dubious]

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There is one link, same kind of things that you have posted, I don't believe in either. Only twisting the language that is happening

The origin of Hinduism is still disputed, the very year, who actually first introduced it is unknown, the scriptures are disputed as to which was more important and many of the things written in are based on tradition and region bound!

There are whole libraries full of their work brother, do some Ijtihad and there you go. I can give you an endless list but it won't help you that much, unless you intend to spend the rest of your life studying them.

Why not? Life is a learning experience what is wrong in learning both deen and duniya? I am already doing duniya and I dont mind balancing it with deen...Why deny me a way? Hence, I asked for 1 verse not many! Why is that so hard for you to spend 2 seconds searching for 1 verse than trying to convince me you are right if you are, the verse will prove it!

The definitions of kafir do not apply to people who have never heard of Islam, Koran or its Ayat. You can find such people in the Amazon forest for instance.

I know and all I am asking for is a verse regarding the word!

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https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...5gf4OZN5IfTL6gjaQ&sig2=cZcp5-3NNbpPmXIM7Vpt8Q

Wiki with articles is your link? WOW! I feel pity for India if that is what they are calling truth now!

 

[gslv]

You are the doctor you are supposed to disporve it! Plus if you cant understand like any normal human who doesnt know the language, you will look for a better translation!

There is no scientific things what is written, so I cannot disprove something which is not scientific.

Wiki with articles is your link? WOW! I feel pity for India if that is what they are calling truth now!

Original link is not opening, that's not mine or indian fault, why drag my country into this.
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...0wNdN_n2nmiEM8TjA&sig2=9KYN913p9EPlHHLElX2rHA
If again not opening Google it yourself.

The origin of Hinduism is still disputed, the very year, who actually first introduced it is unknown, the scriptures are disputed as to which was more important and many of the things written in are based on tradition and region bound!

Can you point out the exact year of invent of Islam, so Islam didn't exist before that if yes then how Abraham is Muslim, if not then a lot of ppl lying by saying that its the original one.
Btw I never said what is written is scientific, I just posted a link that said Hinduism is scientific when you asked about science in other religious books.

 

[Dubious]

There is no scientific things what is written, so I cannot disprove something which is not scientific.

I am asking you to put yourself 1400 yrs ago in a desert and tell me if you could even think of such things being uneducated? Go to any random village in India near the desert and get similar info

Original link is not opening, that's not mine or indian fault, why drag my country into this.
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...0wNdN_n2nmiEM8TjA&sig2=9KYN913p9EPlHHLElX2rHA

Coz every Indian on PDF actually thinks Wiki is the bible!

That was just an observation!

Can you point out the exact year of invent of Islam, so Islam didn't exist before that if yes then how Abraham is Muslim, if not then a lot of ppl lying by saying that its the original one.

In Arabic Muslim is one who peacefully bows to the will of ALLAH meaning adhere's to god's law...Abraham did so hence according to Arabic the word Muslim fits!

 

[gslv]

I am asking you to put yourself 1400 yrs ago in a desert and tell me if you could even think of such things being uneducated? Go to any random village in India near the desert and get similar info


Coz every Indian on PDF actually thinks Wiki is the bible!

That was just an observation!

So I could generalize every Pakistani. Can I?

 

[Dubious]

So I could generalize every Pakistani. Can I?

Ok sorry that was my bad....Every Indian on PDF! happy?

 

[gslv]

n Arabic Muslim is one who peacefully bows to the will of ALLAH meaning adhere's to god's law...Abraham did so hence according to Arabic the word Muslim fits!

Can u point out the exact year Abraham did that, if not pointing fingers at other religions having no time frame is outrageous.

Btw gonna sleep, will debate with you tomorrow.

 

[Dubious]

Can u point out the exact year Abraham did that, if not pointing fingers at other religions having no time frame is outrageous.

That is no longer our religion...it was for that time only and hence knowing such details about it is no longer our business.......so Vedas was for that era that it is no longer your business to know about it??