No foreign hand in terror: Malik

[SMC]

Rehman Malik is a joker and a hack. Nothing more than that. Same guy has said many times that bharat is supporting terrorists.

 

[T-Faz]

Great video...

Not matter how these pathetic leaders try, they can't convince the Pak Army and the Pakistani Nation that, India and CIA are not behind TTP and BLA....

Behind TTP is their supporters from the Arabic countries especially Saudi Arabia. It could be that the Americans or some others use the Saudis as proxies but this is a theory at best and one that would be hard to establish. Never the less, TTP is a Pakistani group led by a Pakistani and with Pakistani members.

BLA too is a Pakistani group, it is supported and run by the Marri tribes and the Bugti's. It does have connections but it always had connections, even with the Soviets. India might provide moral and some financial/material support but it's nothing substantive as they cannot really reach the insurgents in Balochistan. The province is well guarded and kept under great scrutiny by us.

So there is external support but our own people.

Had we solved the real grievances of the general public, we would be much better off.

 

[India Rising]

as far as india is concerned...it is very hard for indians to provoke and motivate TTP.. we do not share anything common with them... from my Personnel point of view...TTP is fighting an ideological war rather than a war for a Territory......

 

[T-Faz]

Oh btw, his full name is:

Rehman 'Blackwater' Malik.

Or just Blackwater Malik.

 

[Areesh]

India funding Taliban, says Rehman Malik Pakistan Interior Minister

Pakistan has accused India of funding the Taliban fighters located along the Pak-Afghan border in order to create mayhem in Pakistan.

Rehman Malik, Interior Minister of Pakistan, in an interview to a television channel, went to the extent of saying that he is prepared to furnish the government of India with evidence to that effect.

Rehman Malik asserted that he is “convinced” about India funding the Taliban and that there are “elements” that do not want Pakistan to be stable.” When asked whether India was among those “elements,” he replied: “Of course.”

He went on to say: “If the Interior Minister of India or anyone else wants to confront me, I will be happy to confront them since I know what I am saying.”

India funding Taliban, says Rehman Malik Pakistan Interior Minister

India backing BLA: Rehman Malik

ISLAMABAD, Apr 22 (APP): Advisor to Prime Minister on Interior, Rehman A. Malik Wednesday informed the Upper House of the Parliament that India is backing the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) for fuelling insurgency in the province and creating unrest. “BLA was raised and funded by Russia during Soviet‑Afghan war when Pakistan was supporting Afghanis and now India is backing its activities,” he said, winding up debate on an adjournment motion, to discuss the Balochistan situation emerging out of recent killing of three Baloch leaders in Turbat.

India backing BLA: Rehman Malik

As I said grow up guys grow up.

 

[temujin]

Rehman Malik is a joker and a hack. Nothing more than that. Same guy has said many times that bharat is supporting terrorists.

....but has consistently failed to produce evidence to back up his ludicrous claims. Looks like he has now decided to come clean as this policy of misinformation and rumour mongering has created ambivalence among ordinary Pakistanis about the nature of the threat facing the nation and therefore hurting Pakistan's fight on terror.

If you were happy to believe this bloke's past statements without a shadow of a doubt, why are you questioning his latest pronouncement?Are you now going to demand that he provide proof that India is NOT involved in supporting terrorists in Pakistan when you were quite willing to accept that India was behind terror in Pak without any corroborative evidencein the past ?

As T Faz rightly points out, Pakistani establishment should focus its attention on its ideological masters in the Arab world and attempt to address the systematic destruction of the very social fabric of Pakistan, starting from the school curriculum through to the legislature and armed forces, orchestrated by wahabbists if it is serious about fighting the scourge of terror in the country..

 

[Areesh]

as far as india is concerned...it is very hard for indians to provoke and motivate TTP.. we do not share anything common with them... from my Personnel point of view...TTP is fighting an ideological war rather than a war for a Territory......

These guys also don't have anything common with each other. But they do shared the common enemy.

Same is the case with TTP and India buddy.

 

[SMC]

....but has consistently failed to produce evidence to back up his ludicrous claims. Looks like he has now decided to come clean as this policy of misinformation and rumour mongering has created ambivalence among ordinary Pakistanis about the nature of the threat facing the nation and therefore hurting Pakistan's fight on terror.

If you were happy to believe this bloke's past statements without a shadow of a doubt, why are you questioning his latest pronouncement?Are you now going to demand that he provide proof that India is NOT involved in supporting terrorists in Pakistan when you were quite willing to accept that India was behind terror in Pak without any corroborative evidencein the past ?

As T Faz rightly points out, Pakistani establishment should focus its attention on its ideological masters in the Arab world and attempt to address the systematic destruction of the very social fabric of Pakistan, starting from the school curriculum through to the legislature and armed forces, orchestrated by wahabbists if it is serious about fighting the scourge of terror in the country..

I don't listen to this guys words mate. My point about him is that he keeps shifting his statements as he's done that in the past. Not a very reliable guy. I can bet you that it won't be long before he says that bharat is supporting terrorists.

Btw, as far as his 'ludicrous claims' go, bharati government does the same about ISI and PA. So please, cut the hypocrisy.

 

[temujin]

I don't listen to this guys words mate. My point about him is that he keeps shifting his statements as he's done that in the past. Not a very reliable guy. I can bet you that it won't be long before he says that bharat is supporting terrorists.

Btw, as far as his 'ludicrous claims' go, bharati government does the same about ISI and PA. So please, cut the hypocrisy.

SMC, We've been over this before and I know you hold very entrenched views, mostly based on rumours and conjecture, about what you believe are Indian attempts to destabilise Pakistan. However, you have to concede that India's views on elements within Pakistan and even parts of the military-intelligence establishment promoting terror beyond its borders has gained more credibility among the international community and Pakistan has shown itself singularly incapable of providing any evidence to the contrary or to support its claims of Indian interference in its internal affairs.

Besides the well publisised existence of AQ and Taliban in FATA, which you may swiftly dismiss as 'propaganda' or beyond the jurisdiction of the Pakistani state, it has been largely accepted that Ajmal Kasab is a Pakistani national and the evidence provided by India appears to have been persuasive enough for the UN to proscribe LeT. Yet the organisation continues to raise funds and operate openly in Pakistan through its proxies..

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Also, the founder of JeM, Masood Azhar returned to Pakistan following his release after the IA hijack and operated freely for many years, establishing JeM (which has since launched attacks within Pakistan) in the process,before being driven underground due to western pressure..

These are just a few examples and I am sure you are aware of many more instances where it has been alleged that Pakistani soil has been used by terrorists to plan and launch attacks abroad..or at least the rest of the world believes so..

So at the end of the day, its India's word against Pakistan's but India certainly appears to have made a more convincing case to the rest of the world than Pakistan till date..

 

[SMC]

I am talking about accusations against The Pakistani state. i.e. accusations against the army, ISI, etc. Not LeT, etc. Yes, you're right about LeT. You may be partly correct about army, ISI, however in that case, it's not with evidence that some believe that ISI and army are supporting evidence. They just want to believe those accusations to shift the blame from their own states. India hasn't convinced them that Pakistan is supporting Taliban or LeT or any other terrorist group, they have convinced themselves. Btw, when I use the word 'they', I refer to some sections of western society, not the whole western society or the whole world.

The accusations against the Pakistani state are just as 'ludicrous'. Just because parts of the west believe them as well, doesn't make it any less ludicrous. Parts of the west also believed that Iraq had nukes. The only reason I wanted to mentioned was that because you call accusations against India (without evidence) as some sort of a delusion while accusations against the Pakistan state (again, without any evidence) as some sort of a fair opinion.

 

[Spring Onion]

Rehman malik..
The information minister with no information.
..
.

He is not information minister

the information minister is sensible enough

 

[Spring Onion]

Ok guys we believe Rehman Malik that India has no hand in terrorism in Pakistan because India is present from head to toe with its terror camps based in its Consulates in Afghanistan.

Rehman Malik is right India has no hand rather it has a leg and head and pocket in this mess


Seriously Pakistani government hardly accused India officially in bomb blasts or attacks so this Indian celebration is just mere over-excitement.

BUT its also a reality that India is funding and sheltering BLA terrorists for terrorism in Balochistan province of Pakistan.

Its also a reality that Indian Consulates in Afghanistan are working against Pakistan.

Its also a reality that India had funneled big money for spreading terror in Kurram Agency

 

[Spring Onion]

as far as india is concerned...it is very hard for indians to provoke and motivate TTP.. we do not share anything common with them... from my Personnel point of view...TTP is fighting an ideological war rather than a war for a Territory......

It is always the locals who are used by and supported by enemy simple as that.

Its not necessary that India or Pakistan or for that matter Israelis should involve physically.

It is always that stakeholders try to exploit the internal issues and sentiments for destabilising rivals.

So when anyone says from outside there is Indian hand then doesnt mean Indian placement here.

 

[PeacefulIndian]

How in the world did India, a tyrannical Hindu empire who keeps oppressing the Muslims in Kashmir & everywhere else, manage to fund hardcore Islamic Jihadists in a country like Afghanistan and use them against Islamic Republic of Pakistan to fuel such an amount of terror that it is felt by every Muslim in Pakistan?

Even if we did, aren't we supposed to be 'the ultimate Muslim oppressors' & shouldn't it be a cakewalk for Pakistan to just persuade these Jihadists to work for the cause of Muslim brotherhood & wage a war against India?

 

[temujin]

I am talking about accusations against The Pakistani state. i.e. accusations against the army, ISI, etc. Not LeT, etc. Yes, you're right about LeT. You may be partly correct about army, ISI, however in that case, it's not with evidence that some believe that ISI and army are supporting evidence. They just want to believe those accusations to shift the blame from their own states. India hasn't convinced them that Pakistan is supporting Taliban or LeT or any other terrorist group, they have convinced themselves. Btw, when I use the word 'they', I refer to some sections of western society, not the whole western society or the whole world.

The accusations against the Pakistani state are just as 'ludicrous'. Just because parts of the west believe them as well, doesn't make it any less ludicrous. Parts of the west also believed that Iraq had nukes. The only reason I wanted to mentioned was that because you call accusations against India (without evidence) as some sort of a delusion while accusations against the Pakistan state (again, without any evidence) as some sort of a fair opinion.

Given that present day Pakistan is pretty much a security state with a weak civil society where the army's influence is pervasive, do you honestly believe that outfits such as the LeT and JeM can operate, raise funds in 'settled' parts of Pakistan under the noses of the establishment without the active connivance and complicity of certain sections of it?

I am not saying that the whole of PA is involved in promoting terror but there certainly seems to be issues with the command structure within PA and ISI with certain parts of it, possibly radicalised during the Zia era, acting out of turn in aiding and abetting terrorist outfits which were hitherto targetting India but have more recently started undermining the Pakistani state itself..

Regardless of the level of organistational involvement, it is important to recognise that there is an issue rather than attribute it to unsubstantiated 'perception' created by India or certain sections of the Western media..I realise it is going to be a slow process but I hope the Pakistani public and establishment will gradually progress through the stages of change to eventually accepting some responsibility for what is happening in their country.

In the meantime, I am convinced RAW-MOSSAD-CIA would be blamed even if President Zardari turned up in a suicide vest and blew himself up