no escape zone

[Gufi]

Good day K my friend and all, Tay.

honestly i do not understand it well enough to rate it... @gambit please give post 13 a read and summarise it in in words an idiot(me) can understand

 

[MICA]

honestly i do not understand it well enough to rate it... @gambit please give post 13 a read and summarise it in in words an idiot(me) can understand

i am also into this (simple way of demonstrating the last 2 comments )

 

[gambit]

honestly i do not understand it well enough to rate it... @gambit please give post 13 a read and summarise it in in words an idiot(me) can understand

Easy.

What it means is that the missile's launch posture and immediate flight conditions affects real time NEZ.

If your missile performed a high off-boresight maneuver upon separating form the aircraft for example, it has con-
sumed an important amount of its potential energy for directional changes compared to one fired straight out.

There is a space volume below the range max but above the NEZ comprising mean possibilities of declining values towards max range. In that volume, the target's own evasive maneuvers can wrestle out enough energy from the missile to empty it out.

High off boresight means the missile must expend fuel to acquire the target. People tosses the initial HOBS around as if they are working on a salad. What HOBS does is give the missile the supposedly correct target direction that is not within the missile's sensor view, but the missile still have to search for the target once it made that course correction.

If two MICAs leave a Rafale at the same time towards equidistant targets on identical angles left and right of the AC and one target detects the missile launch and starts evasive maneuvers while the other only spots the MICA once within visual range of its pilot, the former immediately begins using up fuel ( /energy ) in higher quantity shor-tening its NEZ in pure distance. It could have a 40km NEZ already with the latter's staying at a nominal 50.

This means target response will affect real time NEZ even if initial conditions are favorable to theoretical NEZ. Simply put, the sooner the target is aware of the threat, the greater its odds of survival.

 

[Taygibay]

Thanks @gambit

And the part about maker and user values is about how strict these were in measurements,
evaluation and expectations, how real their test was made out to be if you will.

The rest sensors, etc presented more reasons to deem a published NEZ as a vague assessment
more than a perfect appraisal of real life results to come.

Good evening all, Tay.

 

[AKM]

The No-Escape Zone is the zone within which there is a high (defined) kill probability against a target even if it has been alerted. This zone is defined as a conical shape with the tip at the missile launch. The cone's length and width are determined by the missile and seeker performance. A missile's speed, range and seeker sensitivity will mostly determine the length of this imaginary cone, while its agility (turn rate) and seeker complexity (speed of detection and ability to detect off axis targets) will determine the width of the cone.

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nowadays the enhanced performance of next-generation beyond visual range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAMs) in particular will significantly expand the 'no-escape zone' and increase the range over which air-to-air engagements in future can be fought, enabling pilots to exploit the capabilities of their new aircraft to the full.

The Eurofighter Typhoon, for instance, is ultimately destined to have the Meteor - a state-of-the-art BVRAAM from European manufacturer MBDA - as its principal air-to-air weapon system. Said to offer world-beating air superiority, Meteor is a fast and agile missile, with what is claimed to be the largest 'no-escape zone' of any air-to-air weapon. Equipped with both proximity and impact fuses, it can engage targets ranging from fast-jets to UAVs or cruise missiles, autonomously in all weathers, during day or night, in full electronic countermeasure environments. It also highlights two other key developments in AAM design - improved kinematic performance and a high degree of network-centric readiness.

Guidance Integrated Fuzing (GIF) will provide improved target detection information to support advanced warhead concepts. Hybrid AeroFin / Reaction Jet Control (RJC) technology will improve missile airframe agility, allowing rear hemisphere intercepts, and increasing the adversary's "no escape zone." Advanced Propulsion technology will focus on improved energy management, increasing missile range for both air and ground engagements.

The integration of the Advanced Propulsion and Guidance and Control System technologies will expand the missile's operational envelope, enabling full-spherical, minimum-time intercept capability against extremely agile air targets both within and beyond visual range. These combined technologies will provide the warfighter with the capability to rapidly destroy or neutralize air targets and ground-based air defenses at greater distances from the launch aircraft, enhancing survival and mission effectiveness.

Some of the Claimed NEZ of air to air missiles :

◘ R77 = 20 km.
◘ AIM-120C7 = 30 km.
◘ AIM-120D = 45 km.
◘ MICA = 40 ~ 50 km.
◘ Meteor = 75 km (MBDA claiming it's NEZ 3 times bigger than the AIM-120B)
◘ Derby = 40 km.
◘ PL-12 = 40 km.
◘ R-27EA = 35 km.

however this is some of the claimed Actual ranges of the following missiles

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the end of this thread briefly, even there is claimed nez of air to air missiles but on real life some of the pilots managed to escape and dump these missiles in it's nez , by extreme maneuvers or by extensive jamming and still most of the kills recorded by the BVR missiles was actually in the WVR zone

where did you this information?