'No deal' with China, Tin shed at Chumar removed

[illusion8]

I didnt say every person,I mean by and large,the general culture,you can also see that trait in war time Japan or sometime in Korea,which are also influenced by this culture.I will say it's easier to persuade Asians to make personal sacrifices than you can do that with westerners.in China its always the result justifys the means.

I get your point and that's true too, and must say it's amazing. I doubt that it will ever happen for e.g. in a country like India - I cannot get our household servant to agree to my POV let alone someone else.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

That's impinging on one's personal rights and wish - does not happen in a free country.

Indeed, the Chinese have a lot of reasons to envy the freedom of Indians, poor Indians can at least find solace that their little child starved to death as a free person and he can bury his child as a free person. Poor Chinese, on the other hand, have to force their poor child to go to school, do homework, bear his/her picky child who does not want to eat broccoli or spinach. Poor Chinese child, so small and so little freedom.

 

[illusion8]

Indeed, the Chinese have a lot of reasons to envy the freedom of Indians, poor Indians can at least find solace that their little child starved to death as a free person and he can bury his child as a free person. Poor Chinese, on the other hand, have to force their poor child to go to school, do homework, bear his/her picky child who does not want to eat broccoli or spinach. Poor Chinese child, so small and so little freedom.

Do you expected me to give a reply to your f@cked up post? go troll someone else.

 

[Jade]

Either Salman Khurshid is lying through his teeth, or the international press corps is totally incompetent.

I would bet on Khurshid is lying. He is one person. The press corp usually verify the facts. And by looking at what Khurshid said, he only confirmed that the tin shed was removed. He never denied that the bunkers were dismantled. The dismantling of the bunkers were never part of the deal even though they were dismantled. Only the tin shed were part of the deal. The rest were "under the table" face saving arrangements for India.

Coming from the foreign minister carries more weighted than any media speculations

 

[Guynextdoor2]

we have different cultures,Oriental cultures care more about common good and collective well being always comes before the individuals,people are always ready to make personal sacrifice for the interest of the majority,that is what Confucianim's taught oriental people for thousands of years.

No- YOUR culture has been made to look like it is based on interest of majority and collective good by your current political leadrs. In India there was an effort to go that way when the right to propoerty was diluted but then we came back to the principle of Individual+ Collective balance later on.

Indeed, the Chinese have a lot of reasons to envy the freedom of Indians, poor Indians can at least find solace that their little child starved to death as a free person and he can bury his child as a free person. Poor Chinese, on the other hand, have to force their poor child to go to school, do homework, bear his/her picky child who does not want to eat broccoli or spinach. Poor Chinese child, so small and so little freedom.

Starving to death as a free person IS DEFINITELY better than prospering under a dictatorship.

 

[Tractor]

No- YOUR culture has been made to look like it is based on interest of majority and collective good by your current political leadrs. In India there was an effort to go that way when the right to propoerty was diluted but then we came back to the principle of Individual+ Collective balance later on.



Starving to death as a free person IS DEFINITELY better than prospering under a dictatorship.

Sure,more miserable thing is that our political leaders have no idea what are good things and we have no chance to have a taste of the soup made of these good things,I think you know what I mean.Pity on us your pleasure.

 

[faithfulguy]

Coming from the foreign minister carries more weighted than any media speculations

This statement would apply if its Indian media vs another country's foreign minister. But this is Indian minister and a globally respected media source. So I trust the media source than a minister who would say anything to stay in power.

 

[Jade]

This statement would apply if its Indian media vs another country's foreign minister. But this is Indian minister and a globally respected media source. So I trust the media source than a minister who would say anything to stay in power.

Globally respected media? When the same western media writes against China or its human right violations in China or Tibet ,it becomes a lie.

As an Indian, I would trust our foreign minister's statement than the any 'Globally respected media'.

 

[ares]

Now there is absolutely no doubt ...initial report that of Chumar post being destroyed were inaccurate.. instead only the tin shed structure erected on 19 April(3 days after Chinese camped in Indian territory) 8 km ahead of India's forward most permanent structure in the area..was destroyed to broker the deal.

 

[Sugarcane]

'No deal' with China, Tin shed at Chumar removed


Isn't title itself contradictory?

 

[ares]

'No deal' with China, Tin shed at Chumar removed


Isn't title itself contradictory?

It is called returning to Status Quo.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Sure,more miserable thing is that our political leaders have no idea what are good things and we have no chance to have a taste of the soup made of these good things,I think you know what I mean.Pity on us your pleasure.

I know that some of you have a habit of theorizing big big things about democracy and dictatorship and stuff, but let me tell you you have no idea of what you're talking about. What you can't see is the typical pattern of dictatorships that even china is showing- long periods of convulsions, with maybe interludes of calm prospetiry. The economic growth that the CPC has delivered has had startegic advantage of keeping you guys quiet and distracted for the time being. Even you will agree that the growth that the economy has seen in CHina is the very very maximum, and it is just a matter of time before it starts slowing down. And with rising incomes there is an automatic demand for representation. What about then? How will your government handle the situation? Another Tinamen Square? The nightmare scenario for the world is not India or even Pakistan, it is a clash between chinese people who think they deserve representation and the CPC which will be convinced they OUGHT to rule because they delivered spectacularly on the economy. The power struggle that was seen recently shows that the chinese system is as prone to these things as it was before. India will NEVER see that as long as we remain democratic.

Of all growth, political growth is the MOST complex. In many many places, it doesn't happen for several hundred years. India's advantage- whether rightly managed or not- the fundamental system is thankfully already there. We will build on it and happily pay the % of growth that it eats each year. You really are running the risk of enormous political convulsions going forward. And each of those can put you back DECADES.

 

[Tractor]

I know that some of you have a habit of theorizing big big things about democracy and dictatorship and stuff, but let me tell you you have no idea of what you're talking about. What you can't see is the typical pattern of dictatorships that even china is showing- long periods of convulsions, with maybe interludes of calm prospetiry. The economic growth that the CPC has delivered has had startegic advantage of keeping you guys quiet and distracted for the time being. Even you will agree that the growth that the economy has seen in CHina is the very very maximum, and it is just a matter of time before it starts slowing down. And with rising incomes there is an automatic demand for representation. What about then? How will your government handle the situation? Another Tinamen Square? The nightmare scenario for the world is not India or even Pakistan, it is a clash between chinese people who think they deserve representation and the CPC which will be convinced they OUGHT to rule because they delivered spectacularly on the economy. The power struggle that was seen recently shows that the chinese system is as prone to these things as it was before. India will NEVER see that as long as we remain democratic.

Of all growth, political growth is the MOST complex. In many many places, it doesn't happen for several hundred years. India's advantage- whether rightly managed or not- the fundamental system is thankfully already there. We will build on it and happily pay the % of growth that it eats each year. You really are running the risk of enormous political convulsions going forward. And each of those can put you back DECADES.

Sad to know I have know idea what I am talking about and you're.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Sad to know I have know idea what I am talking about and you're.

That's the right attitude. You can now start learning from me.

 

[shuttler]

does anyone have a pic of the bunkers?